Reviving a Butterfly should cost 1 mourning glory instead of 2

[Reiko24]

Right now the cost of reviving Butterflies is in my opinion slightly too big.

A couple of seconds of Shadow Abigail costs 2 mourning glory. During a boss fight you will use almost 40 mourning glory, just for 20 butterflies.

 

”use a bugnet”, yeah, but this perk was made so you would not need to use a bugnet.

why even take this skill if you can just craft a bug net and catch 20 butterflies/bees (bees are even easier) without doing multiple pipspook quests?

or, if reviving a butterfly with 1 mourning glory is too cheap, change the crafting recipe to 2 butterflies (2 butterfly wings and 3 mourning glory), making each butterfly cost 1.5 mourning glory instead.

[Jakepeng99]

Yeah. A bugnet isnt worth 20 mourjing glory. Even 10 is a stretch.

[cyjs]

It’s hard to imagine that four were needed before. What was the designer’s design idea?

[Crimson Hollow]

Or give the revived butterflies a temporary "Ghastly" status that gives more buff for abbi when killed?

[Cassielu]

Considering how cheap twigs, grass and silk are, even 1 mourning glory is too expensive (without pipspook skills)

[Honkeldink]

i can only say this. let. the devs. work. NOONE except u 4 ppl give a flying *** if it costs 1 or 2. stop complaining BOUT minor things. who cares if you gotta do a 2 min pipspook before a boss. do you not wantto do your  character specific tasks? then play wilson. end of argument

[Anis5240]

Man, idek why y'all being so mad about the exchange rate of 2 mourning glories for 1 butterfly revival when Wilson players been using 3 morsels -> 1 meat for ages already.

[OMEGASCRUFF]

It should be 1 Mourning Glory. There's no point in this conversion being expensive. It doesn't take any time at all to catch bees, which will still remain the faster option even if the cost is reduced to 1.

I can't believe this was introduced with a requirement of 4. It's legitimately mind-boggling, and alarming, that this was green-lit.

[flamboyant wolf]

Would be cool if we could revive moon moths too.

[Crimson Hollow]

12 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Man, idek why y'all being so mad about the exchange rate of 2 mourning glories for 1 butterfly revival when Wilson players been using 3 morsels -> 1 meat for ages already.

But you can make fresh meat from spoiled morsels. 

[Jakepeng99]

14 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Man, idek why y'all being so mad about the exchange rate of 2 mourning glories for 1 butterfly revival when Wilson players been using 3 morsels -> 1 meat for ages already.

That isnt that bad.

[Anis5240]

2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

That isnt that bad.

Meanwhile the other gem transmutes:

[Jakepeng99]

Just now, Anis5240 said:

Meanwhile the other gem transmutes:

Goalpost shift.

[Anis5240]

3 minutes ago, Crimson Hollow said:

But you can make fresh meat from spoiled morsels

And you still lost 1 morsel in the process of turning those meats back to morsels.

Just now, Jakepeng99 said:

Goalpost shift.

Doesn't matter. What I meant to say y'all yap too much about those costs when other characters suffer more for lesser things.

[OMEGASCRUFF]

1 minute ago, Anis5240 said:

Doesn't matter. What I meant to say y'all yap too much about those costs when other characters suffer more for lesser things.

I don't think there's a reason to spread displeasure around for the sake of equality. Just fix both problems. It's really not that hard to make more people happy.

I hope you get your skill tree refresh, one day. (I never really understood why the scientist character doesn't have a skill that gives him tier 1 science, but the librarian has it by default.)

[Anis5240]

2 minutes ago, OMEGASCRUFF said:

It's really not that hard to make more people happy.

ok then tell klei bout it

[Reiko24]

20 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

And you still lost 1 morsel in the process of turning those meats back to morsels.

Doesn't matter. What I meant to say y'all yap too much about those costs when other characters suffer more for lesser things.

„I have it hard, so others must too”

[Anis5240]

4 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

„I have it hard, so others must too”

Yes sure, why not. Wendy already have tons of things within her skill tree, it should be a given for some things to be harder for her to get don't you think.

[Reiko24]

Just now, Anis5240 said:

Yes sure, why not. Wendy already have tons of things within her skill tree, it should be a given for some things to be harder for her to get don't you think.

In my honest opinion, some skill tree perks should give a downside to the perk, giving more flavor, depth and difficulty.

So I agree with you. Although reviving butterflies with 2 mourning glory is not „adding difficulty”. It’s just annoying and a time waste.

[Crimson Hollow]

32 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

And you still lost 1 morsel in the process of turning those meats back to morsels.

What if this transmutation includes frog leg as ingredient?

7 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Yes sure, why not. Wendy already have tons of things within her skill tree, it should be a given for some things to be harder for her to get don't you think.

Theres a fair difference between "difficult" and "grindy"... The latter is not gonna help anyone.

[Anis5240]

20 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

It’s just annoying and a time waste.

 

15 minutes ago, Crimson Hollow said:

grindy

and? so what? Wilson has those material grindings too, literally over half of his character skill tree points was about it. Also this is a survival game for god's sake, not boss fight simulator #5797489. You should work hard to make the efforts worthwhile.

[Wendyskill]

Resurrecting butterflies and killing them were all wrong from the start.

The shadow Abigail should be allowed to transform by placing dark petals in the Sisturn

The gestalt Abigail by moon tree flower.

[Steorra]

52 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Also this is a survival game for god's sake, not boss fight simulator #5797489.

I agree with this point. 

52 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

You should work hard to make the efforts worthwhile.

However, the work should be fun and varieties, but not meaningless and boring.

I don't think a people who were fascinated with Wilson would really care the enjoyment of Wendy's daily life.

 

[cyjs]

2 hours ago, OMEGASCRUFF said:

It should be 1 Mourning Glory. There's no point in this conversion being expensive. It doesn't take any time at all to catch bees, which will still remain the faster option even if the cost is reduced to 1.

I can't believe this was introduced with a requirement of 4. It's legitimately mind-boggling, and alarming, that this was green-lit.

What's even more shocking is that in the previous version, each butterfly polished for only 5 seconds, instead of the current 8 seconds.

[Reiko24]

1 hour ago, Wendyskill said:

Resurrecting butterflies and killing them were all wrong from the start.

The shadow Abigail should be allowed to transform by placing dark petals in the Sisturn

The gestalt Abigail by moon tree flower.

I disagree. Abigail is already a Shadow magic related entity. And the murdering part is a nice memento to the original Don't Starve.