Blessed Sisturn III Nerf Was Not As Bad As Previously Thought.

[Dingle]

2 minutes ago, Shining Galaxy said:

Since you like our platform so much, why not create an account yourself and chat with us?

Ok!

[Crestwave]

1 hour ago, Siren11 said:

Wait, I swear I’ve had different numbers than these while playing. What the hell is happening. This was before Wendy’s skill tree though, so maybe it was stealth patched?

As far as I am aware, these have been implemented since their inception; the code I searched to find these discrepancies is actually from before the skill tree. Additionally, I think players would have noticed Abi being disproportionally powerful to these bosses if she only took 75 damage from NMWP or 37.5 damage from Frostjaw.

The wiki is not necessarily wrong in this instance but rather incomplete; clearly, none of the volunteers found the time to write in the mob-specific damage of these new bosses. That's okay.

Also note that the skill tree gives Abigail alignment resistances so she will take less damage from mobs of the same alignment, which can lead to some confusion regarding damage numbers.

44 minutes ago, Dingle said:

Possessed Varg isn't much of a threat.

Yep, she kind of bullies it since she doesn't freeze and her shield + planar defense blocks most of the damage. If you have lunar elixir or the murder buff active, her planar damage basically automatically triggers the varg stun without you needing to provide input.

1 hour ago, WenericMember said:

Off the top of my head, insanity stations, Ghastly experience booster shot, cancellable TS1 animation and boosted pipspook chance (in PQ1), where all requested while being in the game rofl.

I also remember seeing suggestions about adding ghost neutrality to Wraith's Wreath when it always had it, etc. etc.

[WenericMember]

13 minutes ago, Crestwave said:

I also remember seeing suggestions about adding ghost neutrality to Wraith's Wreath when it always had it, etc. etc.

On one hand, this really makes me want to joke about "don't mess with us DST fans, we don't even play the game" on the other hand I'm guilty of over half of those, so I'm in no place to judge..

Thinking about it more, I wonder if Shadow pieces and Lunar Varg are a result of their basic variants (Varg & Level 1) not being considered bosses iirc?

It would be weird if you completed the first phase with mobs no problem, and then the boss starts dealing exponentially more damage due to the player tag & phase change.

It would at least be internally consistent logic.

[Debruh]

8 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

On one hand, this really makes me want to joke about "don't mess with us DST fans, we don't even play the game" on the other hand I'm guilty of over half of those, so I'm in no place to judge..

Same..

 

11 minutes ago, Crestwave said:

note that the skill tree gives Abigail alignment resistances so she will take less damage from mobs of the same alignment, which can lead to some confusion regarding damage numbers.

Nah because I tested Nightmare werepig on the surface because my test world doesn't have caves to avoid lag, and I was like 'Wow, does he deal less damage on tje surface, that's weird. Oh well, He does deal double damage to Abby with no player tag anyways!' And I completely forgot about the fact that I'm shadow aligned 

[Siren11]

11 minutes ago, Crestwave said:

As far as I am aware, these have been implemented since their inception; the code I searched to find these discrepancies is actually from before the skill tree. Additionally, I think players would have noticed Abi being disproportionally powerful to these bosses if she only took 75 damage from NMWP or 37.5 damage from Frostjaw.

The wiki is not necessarily wrong in this instance but rather incomplete; clearly, none of the volunteers found the time to write in the mob-specific damage of these new bosses. That's okay.

Also note that the skill tree gives Abigail alignment resistances so she will take less damage from mobs of the same alignment, which can lead to some confusion regarding damage numbers.

Nightmare Werepig is a tricky one, since I think you can get some confusing damage numbers if he indirectly hits a player (or mob). But I swear I have video evidence of Scrappy Werepig doing 100 damage to Abigail pre-skill tree, and I thought that was player damage. Maybe the wiki doesn’t have the correct numbers for player damage, or maybe it’s a situation like NMWP where you can get indirect hits?

I do believe Frostjaw was never changed, but I’ve never properly fought him as Wendy.

[WenericMember]

While we're re-evaluating skills, didn't gesalt Abigail get some AI changes in regards to range? How far does that go in improving her gamefeel?

[Debruh]

4 hours ago, WenericMember said:

While we're re-evaluating skills, didn't gesalt Abigail get some AI changes in regards to range? How far does that go in improving her gamefeel?

Made her worse according to Yifei? The pink fractal pfp guy

[WenericMember]

1 minute ago, Debruh said:

Made her worse according to Yifei? The pink rhombus made of triangles pfp guy

That's interesting, I'd like to see the justification for that, but I must've missed it.

12 minutes ago, Debruh said:

Made her worse according to Yifei? The pink rhombus made of triangles pfp guy

Found it, "remains poor" was the comment which isn't as bad.

They also didn't use cure-all at all in the fight, and then was surprised when Abigail didn't heal?

[DVGMedia]

There is still the concept that this cosmetic is locked behind this skill tree point.
I know of people that would nerf themselves wholly just so they could have this constantly active.

[Yifei_]

4 hours ago, Debruh said:

Made her worse according to Yifei? The pink rhombus made of triangles pfp guy

My profile picture is a fractal I drew myself (a self-similar structure in mathematics), not a pink rhombus made of triangles.

[Debruh]

1 minute ago, Yifei_ said:

My profile picture is a fractal I drew myself (a self-similar structure in mathematics), not a pink rhombus made of triangles.

Got it, changed it

[WenericMember]

11 hours ago, Debruh said:

Nah because I tested Nightmare werepig on the surface because my test world doesn't have caves to avoid lag, and I was like 'Wow, does he deal less damage on tje surface, that's weird. Oh well, He does deal double damage to Abby with no player tag anyways!' And I completely forgot about the fact that I'm shadow aligned 

Ono

[aidankocherhans]

Dang, I knew the wiki had a few accuracy problems, but this is a lot