Echsrick Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 9 minutes ago, Chewabacca said: It's a link to the last update to the beta and notes. Also per Jason in the YOTW update, we're getting an update today with "most of" the Wendy changes, and soon after will be Walter's turn. and no talk about wortox for litteraly no reasons, feels like wasted effort sometimes that i and some others on wortox do Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makiz0rz Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 No skill trees?!?!?!?! OOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFF extreme disappointment, release at least wortox one but excited about the update too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 30 minutes ago, Chewabacca said: It's a link to the last update to the beta and notes. Also per Jason in the YOTW update, we're getting an update today with "most of" the Wendy changes, and soon after will be Walter's turn. Techinically they said the only thing they needed to do with Wendy is change her stuff visually. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewabacca Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Techinically they said the only thing they needed to do with Wendy is change her stuff visually. Yeah and then the whole war about Blessed Sisturn broke out over the winter break. I wouldn't completely rule out a mechanical change. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 Just now, Chewabacca said: Yeah and then the whole war about Blessed Sisturn broke out over the winter break. I wouldn't completely rule out a mechanical change. If they keep changing their minds everytime a arguement about Wendy breaks out I imagine this beta will end next year. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 1 hour ago, Mysterious box said: Techinically they said the only thing they needed to do with Wendy is change her stuff visually. I hope we get a few balancing changes to the tree at least. It needs some nerfs (scare, Blessed Sisturn) in some areas and buffs in others (Haunt, Altar). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWoWa Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, WenericMember said: I hope we get a few balancing changes to the tree at least. It needs some nerfs (scare, Blessed Sisturn) in some areas and buffs in others (Haunt, Altar). DON'T DARE TO NERF MY QUEEN GOD WENDY!! (Sorry, my sanity dropped to 0 from waiting for the update) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 1 minute ago, WeWoWa said: DON'T DARE TO NERF MY QUEEN GOD WENDY!! (Sorry, my sanity dropped to 0 from waiting for the update) I think we're all mad here. I think Wendy being able to stunlock mobs with Terrorise, and survive indefinitely against Bosses with BS3 is too much, but there things like haunt could use RNG buffs, while perrenial altar needs something unique. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWoWa Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 4 minutes ago, WenericMember said: I think we're all mad here. I think Wendy being able to stunlock mobs with Terrorise, and survive indefinitely against Bosses with BS3 is too much, but there things like haunt could use RNG buffs, while perrenial altar needs something unique. AND I THINK WENDY SHOULD BECOME A GODDESS, DEFEAT CHARLIE, TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE CONSTANT, AND GRANT US POWER IN EXCHANGE FOR PRAYERS TO HER. (Sorry, I didn’t take my meds. I’m so delulu that there’s no point in arguing with me...) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 27 minutes ago, WenericMember said: I hope we get a few balancing changes to the tree at least. It needs some nerfs (scare, Blessed Sisturn) in some areas and buffs in others (Haunt, Altar). I do agree she needs nerfs I just don't think we're going to get them even putting Wendy aside a similar conversation went on during the Maxwell refresh and well we saw how that ended... At this point I just hope they keep their word on her changes just being visual from here on out and don't start buffing her even further. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWoWa Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I do agree she needs nerfs I just don't think we're going to get them even putting Wendy aside a similar conversation went on during the Maxwell refresh and well we saw how that ended... At this point I just hope they keep their word on her changes just being visual from here on out and don't start buffing her even further. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 Just now, WeWoWa said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Would you be willing to endure character refreshes part 3? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWoWa Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 1 minute ago, Mysterious box said: Would you be willing to endure character refreshes part 3? what do you mean Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 5 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I do agree she needs nerfs I just don't think we're going to get them even putting Wendy aside a similar conversation went on during the Maxwell refresh and well we saw how that ended... At this point I just hope they keep their word on her changes just being visual from here on out and don't start buffing her even further. I'm just annoyed because the perrenial altar just lacks anything unique, when its one of the coolest items visually in the game. If nothing else that I tem needs an identity - it's not like it's being used in the first place. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 1 minute ago, WeWoWa said: what do you mean The last time we ignored balance on a character we got refreshes part 2 (skill trees) So what do you think will happen if we keep going even further in this direction? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWoWa Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 1 minute ago, Mysterious box said: Ostatnim razem, gdy zignorowaliśmy równowagę postaci, otrzymaliśmy odświeżenia część 2 (drzewa umiejętności) Co więc Twoim zdaniem się stanie, jeżeli będziemy podążać jeszcze dalej w tym kierunku? Hmmm, maybe my diva Wendy will finally become a god Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 4 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I do agree she needs nerfs I just don't think we're going to get them even putting Wendy aside a similar conversation went on during the Maxwell refresh and well we saw how that ended... At this point I just hope they keep their word on her changes just being visual from here on out and don't start buffing her even further. The only nerfs I think Wendy actually needs is to allow her to run out of “power” so to speak? Like okay for example: compared to Wurt, Wurt can build a massive Merm army and overrule humanity, but Wurts strengths are in her Army, if her structures get destroyed by an armored Bearger, Wurt is reset to 0. Same with Willow, Lose Bernie and your lighter? No firemage powers or Bernie for you! Wolfgang? sure he’s a heavy hitter but ever find yourself without enough materials to craft a Dumbell & he becomes puny pup. The entire cast is like this… Who is Wickerbottom if her library collection gets its pages worn and unreadable? Wendy though nope she gets to keep Abby at all times even if she gets her killed every two seconds. players don’t have to have a Sisturn built with active petals inside to summon Abby.. it’s just endless free infinity summoning. Let a Wickerbottom try to read her books (which have a durability cost each time their used) and she’ll eventually go too insane to spam her books. But not Wendy though.. she’s even more effortless than Wolfgang in my opinion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 1 minute ago, WeWoWa said: Hmmm, maybe my diva Wendy will finally become a god Byczku wez sie przespij, mniej alko pij i bedzie git Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 1 minute ago, WeWoWa said: Hmmm, maybe my diva Wendy will finally become a god The survivors in general are gods at this point refresh 3 will make them each control their own realities. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 13 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: The only nerfs I think Wendy actually needs is to allow her to run out of “power” so to speak? Like okay for example: compared to Wurt, Wurt can build a massive Merm army and overrule humanity, but Wurts strengths are in her Army, if her structures get destroyed by an armored Bearger, Wurt is reset to 0. Same with Willow, Lose Bernie and your lighter? No firemage powers or Bernie for you! Wolfgang? sure he’s a heavy hitter but ever find yourself without enough materials to craft a Dumbell & he becomes puny pup. The entire cast is like this… Who is Wickerbottom if her library collection gets its pages worn and unreadable? Wendy though nope she gets to keep Abby at all times even if she gets her killed every two seconds. players don’t have to have a Sisturn built with active petals inside to summon Abby.. it’s just endless free infinity summoning. Let a Wickerbottom try to read her books (which have a durability cost each time their used) and she’ll eventually go too insane to spam her books. But not Wendy though.. she’s even more effortless than Wolfgang in my opinion. Most of your examples aren't 1:1. They have other benefits. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 6 minutes ago, Uedo said: Most of your examples aren't 1:1. They have other benefits. Yeah? So does Wendy too now after beta. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacpert25 Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 Oh, there are signs of a beta patch being rolled out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 15 minutes ago, Kacpert25 said: Oh, there are signs of a beta patch being rolled out. Such as the fact that the year of the depths worm post said there would be a beta today :P Either way, good to see its on schedule. Edit: That accidentally got posted like 5 times, very sorry to your notifications Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyVibes Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 Sooooo what time are we thinking today everyone? Take your bets now! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debruh Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said: Like okay for example: compared to Wurt, Wurt can build a massive Merm army and overrule humanity, but Wurts strengths are in her Army, if her structures get destroyed by an armored Bearger, Wurt is reset to 0. Same with Willow, Lose Bernie and your lighter? No firemage powers or Bernie for you! Wolfgang? sure he’s a heavy hitter but ever find yourself without enough materials to craft a Dumbell & he becomes puny pup. I feel like if you somehow lead bearger to your merm army, lose your ligher, or somehow break your dumbell without noticing that it's breaking and getting replacement materials, or just lose it. That you would probably lose Abby's flower somehow. Abby not being useable was in the fact that her health would reset and you would have to either wait or spend materials to get her back up quickly. At low health, she's really only good at spiders and bees. Practically, Abigail is a minion that you can't lose against normal enemies or against single target ones, but lose able against aoe Against an aoe boss, if Abby does die she's practically unusable. Which is basically the same as Webber. Webber also doesn't lose his minions at all against normal enemies and against single target bosses. Only against aoes The difference is that Abigail is easier to get, but Wendy actually has to get resources for fights, like armor, healing, taming a beef, etc. While Webber has a harder time getting his minions, but when he does he only needs to look in something's direction and it gets obliterated. With both of them needing more skill when it comes to aoe Wurt is also pretty close to Webber. Her minions however have a timer, and in exchange for the ability to mine and chop. As well as guards being very expensive in exchange for not getting scared Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163051-about-the-beta-update/page/5/#findComment-1787788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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