WenericMember Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 The decision to merge Grave relocation and graves by Wendy was a good one that really improved the value of the skill line, but from testing, the production of evil flowers appears to be unchanged from the start of beta - 2-3 dark petals over ~6 days per gravestone. The main issue with this is that the dark flower production is objectively worse than haunt. While haunt is RNG, it's undeniably still faster, and has an identical, if not better, dark petal production rate in comparison to the gravestone skills. Considering how easy nightmare fuel is to amass, especially as Wendy, The rate needs to be improved to be a positive exchange rate to make up for the time delay. I believe it was mentioned in one of the dev posts as a target for changes, so I'm unsure as to why it was neglected. My graves producing 2 dark flowers: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 The dark petal was originally adapted to the shroud, but the shroud was removed, and it is a little useless now,except for putting it in the urn to provide the aura of reducing sanity. Wendy doesn't lack nightmare fuel. She can get it by killing shadow monkeys. If dark petals in the sisturn could provide additional gains, such as increasing the duration of the shadow buff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 Dark petals generation now seems only serve for sisturn decorations. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidankocherhans Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 The grave skill removes the sanity loss from evil flowers, right? You'd probably still want the skill if you want to farm petals Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 27, 2024 Author Share Posted December 27, 2024 5 hours ago, aidankocherhans said: The grave skill removes the sanity loss from evil flowers, right? You'd probably still want the skill if you want to farm petals Yes, but I'm entirely referring to the actual mechanic of dark petal producation. Bigspooks & Grave Relocation are fine as is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 what's the point of dark petals anyway? nobody's going to craft nightmare fuel with them, and the only useful thing that needed it (reskin sweeper) had its recipe changed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koomin Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 8 minutes ago, Well-met said: what's the point of dark petals anyway? nobody's going to craft nightmare fuel with them, and the only useful thing that needed it (reskin sweeper) had its recipe changed. If you join a public server there's like an 80% chance there will be a Wendy player that uses Abigail to fight everything, never crafts a weapon, and stands at the sisturn for minutes each day to avoid nightmare creatures (also some people I know do that). I think the dark petals are for this type of player, who actually would use it to get nightmare fuel and would want to craft the items that require nightmare fuel but are otherwise unable. Clearly there are better sources though, yea, and for other types of players it's still cool to have them aesthetically. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 Not everything has to be useful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 27, 2024 Author Share Posted December 27, 2024 9 minutes ago, Evelo said: Not everything has to be useful. Uhhh.... Yeah.... Everything should be... Should somethings only have niche applications, QOL or be marginal improvements? sure. This aspect to the skill is none of those things. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162819-as-far-as-i-can-tell-dark-petal-production-has-been-neglected/#findComment-1782586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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