Klei have done a great job at listening to Wendy players.

[Uedo]

Not a rage bait post also not really a post i'm often inclined to make.

I think Klei have done a really good job in listening to players, I think everyone involved is a human being and can't hope to please all audiences. 
I think it's really nice when devs listen to feedback and I feel they've really been listening.
Is it perfect? No. Is anything? No. 

I think they've done a great job in listening to people, and you can see that they value the input of the community - I'm not saying people shouldn't post critical things, but with that in mind, there's no reason I can't post that I like it.

I like the skill tree.

Bit janky in ways, but that's alright - I'm really enjoying it, thanks

[cyjs]

There is a post where 74 people participated in the voting for Wendy's skill tree, 63 of them expressed dissatisfaction, and 40% voted for redo. I hope klei can notice it.

[djturner]

I also quite like it. Feedback forums are notoriously negative even at the best of times. I sort of wish the Abigail armor had made it through in some fashion but I get the goal of preserving the skill of the "pet management" too, while adding more functionality to do just that. Wendy was always going to be a tricky one because she's an immensely popular character and she means something unique to almost every single person that plays her.

[asdsaax]

*Cough*

I wish people were more specific how they expect Wendy to be expanded upon
instead of rerolling the skilltree with "Wendy skilltree bad, redo pls" threads until Klei sticks landing on something that tickles their fancy

but no one knows what that thing is
I wonder why

[Jakepeng99]

7 minutes ago, cyjs said:

There is a post where 74 people participated in the voting for Wendy's skill tree, 63 of them expressed dissatisfaction, and 40% voted for redo. I hope klei can notice it.

Its possible this vote may have been swayed by people planning to vote no.

[Steorra]

26 minutes ago, asdsaax said:

but no one knows what that thing is

I wonder why

There were already many detailed ideas which is good and they have collect many agree voices but they still be absent in the beta. so I'm have to questioning your accusations.

25 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Its possible this vote may have been swayed by people planning to vote no.

Don't think so. I was saw some pool about Wendy recently and all of them gave an option for satisfy or somewhat.

[Uedo]

11 minutes ago, cyjs said:

There is a post where 74 people participated in the voting for Wendy's skill tree, 63 of them expressed dissatisfaction, and 40% voted for redo. I hope klei can notice it.

I'm sure they have. 

You're not entitled to something just because you kick up enough of a fuss though, sometimes it just be that way :[

[Peasant]

4 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Its possible this vote may have been swayed by people planning to vote no.

You mean if the result is "no", the vote could have been swayed; but if the result was "yes", it's fair and just?

[Uedo]

3 minutes ago, Steorra said:

There were already many detailed ideas which is good and collect many agree voices but still be absent in the beta. so I'm have to questioning your accusations.

Swings and roundabouts then! Oh well

[Dingle]

6 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Its possible this vote may have been swayed by people planning to vote no.

Whaaaaaaat?????

What do you mean, these polls are worthless? Look at the numbers!!!?!

[Uedo]

Just now, YXukun said:

You mean if the result is "no", the vote could have been swayed; but if the result was "yes", it's fair and just?

Isn't it just a post from a person on the forums though? It's not official in anyway right? Did anyone ask them to make it or did they just decide to do it themselves? 

Either way, same point as i've just made - You're not just entitled to something because you want it, you'll have a happier life if you tempered your expectations of the world.

[Jakepeng99]

1 minute ago, YXukun said:

You mean if the result is "no", the vote could have been swayed; but if the result was "yes", it's fair and just?

I see alot of people saying they like it and are fine with it. Its mainly people who came from the other forums who say no.

1 minute ago, Dingle said:

Whaaaaaaat?????

What do you mean, these polls are worthless? Look at the numbers!!!?!

Where is the poll?

[Dingle]

3 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I see alot of people saying they like it and are fine with it. Its mainly people who came from the other forums who say no.

Where is the poll?

Every Wendy poll on the beta forums

[Peasant]

1 minute ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I see alot of people saying they like it and are fine with it. Its mainly people who came from the other forums who say no.

And I see a lot of people saying they don't like ot and are not fine with it. Simply taking dissatisfaction as…what, "manipulated by the outsiders", doesn't really help.

Besides, people who came from other forums says no, and? Are they not dst players?

[asdsaax]

7 minutes ago, Steorra said:

There were already many detailed ideas which is good and they have collect many agree voices but they still be absent in the beta. so I'm have to questioning your accusations.

Literally just scroll the forums, mister officer

I'm condemning specific behaviour, not every Wendy player in existence
I think threads like "Wendy ain't too strong" are the most notorious in that case

because they try to discuss questionable balance and design of that game
instead of addressing Wendy's issues which makes for unproductive conversations

 

[Steorra]

19 minutes ago, Uedo said:

Swings and roundabouts then! Oh well

Don't think so. Many voices required same thing but just in different details.

I don't think as a player we should give a detailed mechanics design to our designer

12 minutes ago, asdsaax said:

Literally just scroll the forums, mister officer

I'm condemning specific behaviour, not every Wendy player in existence
I think threads like "Wendy ain't too strong" are the most notorious in that case

because they try to discuss questionable balance and design of that game
instead of addressing Wendy's issues which makes for unproductive conversations

 

So now "most of them did not" means "no body did"? Even you can't give a statistics about how it become "most of"

Particularly I have to point out, we were saw that we have the most "player designed" skill tree sketches for Wendy here. I mean, which with painting and art designs.

It seems someone trying to judge that all of these unofficial designs are meaningless.

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

If you really listen, how can there be so many questions? Reflect on the reason.

[Uedo]

3 minutes ago, Steorra said:

Don't think so. Many voices required same thing but just in different details.

The expression is similar to 'C'est la vie'. It's something you say when you don't want to be blunt and go 'oh well'. 

1 minute ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

If you really listen, how can there be so many questions? Reflect on the reason.

There should always be space for questions.

Any more cryptic clichés or metaphors? If you're giving your subjective opinion, I can keep giving mine and we'll be here all day. I'm being sincere, I feel they HAVE listened. 
You feel they haven't, saying vague sentences to me isn't going to persuade me of anything :S 

[asdsaax]

1 minute ago, Steorra said:

So now "most of them did not" means "no body did"? Even you can't give a statistics about how it become "most of"

I will be absolutely honest with you
that rant will go nowhere and I feel like you are being defensive for nothing

especially when you are assuming that I generalize Wendy mains though I have never said that + I made myself clear with what I mean

[Reiko24]

Just now, asdsaax said:

I will be absolutely honest with you
that rant will go nowhere and I feel like you are being defensive for nothing

especially when you are assuming that I generalize Wendy mains though I have never said that + I made myself clear with what I mean

that's what they do, they act offended and play victim when you call them out

[Peasant]

5 minutes ago, Uedo said:

There should always be space for questions.

I think he meant "problems" rather than "questions"

[Uedo]

1 minute ago, YXukun said:

I think he meant "problems" rather than "questions"

Ah ok, if that's the case, it's kind of simpler.

I don't think we're being realistic if we think that there will never be problems when it comes to anything related to game dev. 

[Peasant]

1 minute ago, Uedo said:

Ah ok, if that's the case, it's kind of simpler.

I don't think we're being realistic if we think that there will never be problems when it comes to anything related to game dev. 

I think his focus was on "so many"

[Leonmiao]

You were right before the third version published. I don't think the new one is an outcome of listening to Wendy players (and I do regard the second version as so). I believe Klei can be a good listener, so I spontaneously hope that the skill tree can be more reconsidered especially being able to armor Abi.  Arguing like above is unnecessary, while speaking out loudly together is much better.

[Uedo]

2 minutes ago, Fitzee said:

When I woke up and saw the title of this topic, noticing it had 22 replies already, I knew there was trouble afoot. 

We should work it out on the remix.