Gestalt Abigail Buff Poll

[SpookyXy]

 

[Yifei_]

I still hope to optimize the form transformation method of Gestalt Abigail. On the one hand, there are already many things happening during the full moon and the new moon; on the other hand, the intervals between them are long, making it easy to miss. Who can guarantee that I will only need single-target or only need AOE in the next 10 days?

For example, the Moon Dial in the cave is always without water. So, can we use the cave's Moon Dial to transform Gestalt Abigail into its normal form? The Lunar Tree Blossom has characteristics of both the moon and flowers, so can we use the Lunar Tree Blossom (perhaps with Mourning Glory) to transform the normal form into Gestalt Abigail?
 

[beepbeepbot]

In fact I hope one more option which is making Abby stop being in a daze for a second after completing an attack. 'gestalt_rest' in SGabigail.lua makes her worse than a pigfolk at kite mobs.

[Lee lol]

There is a problem with the Chinese translation of this poll, it shows that the first option is "both callback damage and callback invincibility frame", I think more people should support callback invincibility frame, because improving Abi's survivability is obviously more important than increasing damage.

[Steorra]

The AI nerf is bad I have to say.

If your original intention is to keep Abi's high skill needed kiting, why gave a try to make her more reliable?

Now ppl would think that we have ability to make some complex things to be perfect, but for "balance" sake we have to nerf it intentionally in an artificial way in the end.

[cropo]

My only problem was the damage she did was just too high, actually being able to survive and contribute damage is fine and halving the damage seems good enough. 

[Sacco]

i think she needs a bit more damage.

Attack invulnerability was the most broken part about her which made her unkillable.

If i recall correctly she used to deal 400 damage and now 220 at max.

A middle ground like 300 is cool for me.

[Leonmiao]

I prefer to give back the invulnerability but also rise her damage a little bit back (maybe 75% of the original, just like Wendy herself),  or we can also choose to keep Lunar Abi able to aoe, that is fine I guess.

[1007954611]

What we need is for her to survive and participate in battles. The damage can be reduced, but please keep her survival ability

[YuRinshue]

Gestalt Abigail's survival ability should be her proudest feature, like the common daily threat enemies in the fissure stage, "Deadly Brightshade". Wendy faced them almost like Wes faced them, and Abigail's uncontrollability and AOE greatly led to an increase in mortality rate.
I think what Wendy needs the most is the ability to adapt to daily situations. Like other characters, such as Willow, as a versatile character, her two fire spells are powerful countermeasures for units like Deadly Brightshade that are visible in daily life. That is to say, even if it is not the main target of Vila's countermeasures, she still has extremely excellent countermeasures. On the other hand, Wendy should be positioned in this daily enemy strategy, but lacks the means of such a strategy.
The previous 400+100 damage was indeed too much, exceeding the required level. But now the damage of 200+50 is obviously too little, lower than the reasonable value (ordinary Abies can have AOE output levels of 40+10/1s, while monthly Abigail single body output is the same). At the same time, it also makes the most core survival ability lose. This strong survival ability is obtained at the expense of high-frequency AOE. As a result, both single body DPS and survival ability are now lost, which is the reason why players are dissatisfied with the latest version of monthly Abigail.

A more reasonable output level can be 150+150 (exactly 1.5 times the DPS of AOE, without being excessively attenuated by the environment during the crack stage like 400+100), and the core is to restore strong survival ability, that's all.
 

[kroban]

I think Klei nerfed her way too hard, imo 275 or 300 would be the best spot for her damage, but they should also improve her survival skills a bit more.

In my opinion the main issue she had was that she could solo all bosses with Wendy afk while Abigail was also attack inmune, now it requires some effort from the Wendy player

[1007954611]

call back Gestalt's invincibility frames, and remove her "daze for a second" setting in the code. Or, give her more flat defense and a player tag.