I'd like to delay the release of Wendy's update

[aoka404]

You can release updates for the other two characters first. I'd rather wait than accept such a poor and uncreative design, which, compared to Willow's skill tree, looks like it was given to a novice. I want someone who really knows the game in charge. I know there will be designers with real intentions, and the other two character updates are a good illustration of that

[DegenerateFurry]

You're not gonna get what you want by being rude to the developers. Also, people seem to be generally happier with her skill tree now that they've changed a few things around.

Finally, the beta board is that way.

[Cassielu]

9 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Also, people seem to be generally happier with her skill tree now that they've changed a few things around.

Yeah, except for... basically entire community outside this forum, I guess?

[dstplayer]

Apart from the tombstone matches well because the tombstone indeed appears in the original image of Wendy whos sitting on

 

[aidankocherhans]

46 minutes ago, Cassielu said:

Yeah, except for... basically entire community outside this forum, I guess?

There's still undisclosed skills yet to be added, it's too early to judge

[Steorra]

10 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

Also, people seem to be generally happier with her skill tree now that they've changed a few things around.

No.

I say, no. It is far lower quality than Wortox, Woodie and Winona. It brings completely simple value bonus but not enough suitable interesting mechanism (Wortox scythe, Winona shadow strike), and no impactful helps for downside & QoL (Which like catapult relocating ability, Wortox non-monster ability, Woodie state QoL change after transform etc.).

I prefer to delay Wendy skill tree if it's needed for improving it as same level as Woodie, Winona, Wortox skill tree.

11 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said:

There's still undisclosed skills yet to be added, it's too early to judge

Agree, but even considering those part which already hinted in the stream, there still something (*or many?) need to change or improve.

I doubt that those promised future skills would help Wendy skill tree enough, especially considering current design intent.

[_mylilsunshine_]

Some Wendy players are really entitled and greedy huh? She's consistently been the most developed character these beta builds alongside Wortox, while Walter has to fight for scraps under the table. You have a feast, yet you still want to gorge. If anything, other characters are unfortunate to be grouped with Wendy for a skill tree, since the Dev and the weirdos will prioritize her over whoever else is in the group.

The changes are not yet official, if you have something constructive to say, put it in a discussion, don't throw a tantrum.
 

3 hours ago, Cassielu said:

Yeah, except for... basically entire community outside this forum, I guess?

Pretty wild speculation you have there.

[Cassielu]

15 minutes ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

She's consistently been the most developed character these beta builds alongside Wortox

I don't understand what makes you compare them, it seems to me that Wortox has the best skill tree in the game, and Wendy got one of the worst skilltree in the game as Wormwood dose, and the gap between them can be called immense.

Maybe I'm wrong. after all good and bad are subjective things, but

15 minutes ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

Pretty wild speculation you have there.

that must be a crazy self-deception to ignore all those reviews.

[_mylilsunshine_]

18 minutes ago, Cassielu said:

that must be a crazy self-deception to ignore all those reviews.

I'm not saying there aren't negative reviews and disgruntled feedback, I'm saying that--

4 hours ago, Cassielu said:

Yeah, except for... basically entire community outside this forum, I guess?

"entire community outside this forum" is a wild speculation

 

[aoka404]

No matter how smooth an article is, no matter how the language is modified, if it goes off topic, it will make people feel unacceptable from the bottom of their heart. Wendy's characteristics are like baking ingredients, and those who understand them can easily make beautiful and delicious cakes based on them. Jason lacks "clever" to make her into barely enough instant noodles to eat, easy to be bored.

[Echsrick]

5 hours ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

Some Wendy players are really entitled and greedy huh? She's consistently been the most developed character these beta builds alongside Wortox, while Walter has to fight for scraps under the table. You have a feast, yet you still want to gorge. If anything, other characters are unfortunate to be grouped with Wendy for a skill tree, since the Dev and the weirdos will prioritize her over whoever else is in the group.

this whole reason makes me wish wendy was not part of this skill tree, simply because she as usual takes all the spot light and care and attention of characters more in need, walter skill tree looks...not good...like it looks like just more ammo types then anything else, and wortox has alsol plenty of filler and things that could be changed for the better

[Steorra]

24 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

this whole reason makes me wish wendy was not part of this skill tree, simply because she as usual takes all the spot light and care and attention of characters more in need, walter skill tree looks...not good...like it looks like just more ammo types then anything else, and wortox has alsol plenty of filler and things that could be changed for the better

Tbh I personally can't understand what you are saying about

24 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

this whole reason makes me wish wendy was not part of this skill tree, simply because she as usual takes all the spot light and care and attention of characters more in need, walter skill tree looks...not good...like it looks like just more ammo types then anything else, and wortox has alsol plenty of filler and things that could be changed for the better

I see no one agree that Walter current skill tree is good enough.

But Wortox? Seriously? The 4th satisfying is worse than Wendy which is the 4th disappointed one?

[Steorra]

1 minute ago, SSneaky said:

oh hey my 'poorly' made (because I forgot Winona existed again) poll.

though yeah its fine to use in this case.

wanna say thanks to you : D

I believe that if Winona was here she would including in the most 5 popular skill tree...

[Uedo]

6 hours ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

You have a feast, yet you still want to gorge.

I mean if you don't gorge at a feast what are you actually doing with your life?

[Echsrick]

1 hour ago, Steorra said:

Tbh I personally can't understand what you are saying about

I see no one agree that Walter current skill tree is good enough.

But Wortox? Seriously? The 4th satisfying is worse than Wendy which is the 4th disappointed one?

1 random poll, ok, but how many threads are there talkin about wendy vs wortox and walter COMBINED?

[Mike23Ua]

8 hours ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

Some Wendy players are really entitled and greedy huh? She's consistently been the most developed character these beta builds alongside Wortox, while Walter has to fight for scraps under the table. You have a feast, yet you still want to gorge. If anything, other characters are unfortunate to be grouped with Wendy for a skill tree, since the Dev and the weirdos will prioritize her over whoever else is in the group.

The changes are not yet official, if you have something constructive to say, put it in a discussion, don't throw a tantrum.
 

Pretty wild speculation you have there.

The developers made it clear that a different dev is working on each of the characters, I just hope that the developers they choose to work on those characters actually love that specific character.

Because when you have a developer who actually enjoys playing as the character that they’re working on, they’ll come up with fun new creative stuff.

And at the same time they can also see that something like Inventory Management for Walter Ammo mid-combat of a boss fight while using an Xbox controller is no fun so they completely remove that and just let ammo stack to higher numbers <3

[somethin]

It's so weird that people act like her skill tree is basically the second coming of Wolfgang when she actually get new stuff to play with. The added commands for Abigail and grave stone skills are already much more interesting than Wilson and Wolfgang skill combined. And complaining about skills only giving number buffs? Tell that to Winona where almost half her skills are basically number buffs. I don't even know what 'interesting' thing people want anymore.

[DegenerateFurry]

1 hour ago, somethin said:

It's so weird that people act like her skill tree is basically the second coming of Wolfgang when she actually get new stuff to play with. The added commands for Abigail and grave stone skills are already much more interesting than Wilson and Wolfgang skill combined. And complaining about skills only giving number buffs? Tell that to Winona where almost half her skills are basically number buffs. I don't even know what 'interesting' thing people want anymore.

Yeah, seriously. I'm very much looking forward to playing Wendy with the immensely increased control of Abigail that the new commands allow.