Could Wigfrid be given a normal, interesting, and skill tree that meets the expectations of Wigfrid players?

[gaymime]

40 minutes ago, RozeMeteor said:

Respectfully, this was sad to read, what if she was my main before ? i gotta move on just cuz her skilltree gutted her ? and just to be clear here wig and willow was my two most played chars, willow was reworked fully to be broken and wig in particular didn't earned nothing much significant, yes she was strong, but come on even woodie has qol in his skilltree and the best they could do for her was a spear and a helm ? Yes, i can play without using the skilltree which i do so but it's a strange feeling having to hinder youself cuz turns out your main didn't received a nice attention during their skilltree while the new meta is spawning at day one with tools to split the game in half.

respectfully in return; if you can only enjoy something when you are able to to access 100% of what that thing has to offer then you will find so many less opportunities to enjoy things at all. it is ok to be unhappy when things don't work out in your favour but it is pretty strange to say that you cannot enjoy a character because you only get to enjoy them exactly as much as you have always enjoyed them. nothing was lost when wig got her update she just did not get more than you feel others got afterwards

 

1 hour ago, Wigfried said:

Wigfried is the character I really like, if I don't really like it, I don't need to come here to complain about this failed skill tree

but you don't seem to like playing her. it is ok to just try another character(or a few) and see how you feel about them. if one of them works really well with how you play then you can keep enjoying the game, if none of them work out then all you lost was a little bit of time. in the end the most important thing is that you can enjoy the game and not suffer because a part of it is not a good fit for you. it is not a bad thing to try something new when what you are currently doing hurts you.

[Mike23Ua]

3 hours ago, Wigfried said:

You're wrong, you don't know much about Wigfrid, and you don't have enough time playing this character. Wigfrid's skill tree is boring because most of the skill points are useless, and you have to experience it yourself to find out what this skill tree is like, and I played this character for more than a thousand hours. In our country, most players agree that the Wigfried skill tree is by far the worst designed skill tree and the most failed skill tree. The designer is definitely not serious about the design, and it is also irresponsible, which makes us Wigfried players angry! And I bought all the KLEI skin packs and merchandise and was disappointed.

Explain to me in great amount of detail what you’re actually expecting out of a Wigfrid skill tree then? Because from my point of view she got some really good “Viking Themed” Items and Skills.

[RozeMeteor]

6 hours ago, gaymime said:

respectfully in return; if you can only enjoy something when you are able to to access 100% of what that thing has to offer then you will find so many less opportunities to enjoy things at all. it is ok to be unhappy when things don't work out in your favour but it is pretty strange to say that you cannot enjoy a character because you only get to enjoy them exactly as much as you have always enjoyed them. nothing was lost when wig got her update she just did not get more than you feel others got afterwards.

More than i feel yeah ? a beefalo branch with no use cuz if you are using a beefalo as her it probably won't be ornery, musics only for multiplayer, shields who are cost ineficient and massive resource sinks... the list could go on, while we got this.. wendy tranforming dark petals in flowers was too much out of character too people to bear and the forums catched on fire with insults for two days straight, but that's fine cuz everyone love wendy right. I alredy stoped playing her but i'm finding dificulty play any other character because i was too atached, i've been playing caves of qud for almost two weeks straight so far cuz i don't have been enjoying the game as i was before, i still got try wurt but besides her nobody seems to fill the bill for me, maybe the game just isn't for me at the end of the day which is a shame cuz i had a lot of fun of my first days playing but that feeling isn't here anymore. Hopefully wurt will be a fun character to play, and Klei for the love of god give us a toggle to Remove that annoying daily skilltree UI.

[hyoton123]

Her skill tree is perfectly fine, probably on the top end of skilltrees. OP I am going to be honest I don't believe you've played her one bit much less post rift.

Shield is good for early game (dragonfly, CC, giants i guess) and any solo mob, beefalo gives you a free health or sanity recharge anywhere you've put up a punching bag and is QOL for actually getting a beefalo ready (which you want because wig doesn't have a strategic speed option), charged elding spear is combat dash (and cross gaps!) and easy to repair and doesn't need a repair kit (+1 inventory), commanders helm....exists but it gives mass producible planar defense upon starting rifts without relying on dreadstone, and knockback protection with no speed loss (these are pretty niche), and there's a lot of decent swap skills which force you to make a choice or swap. About the only problem is that the alignment skills are bad solo. But then so are most revive skills.

Minus the spear it's a lot of QOL stuff which is good because that was what wigfrid needed. You are an invincible killing machine wading into battle with her, and dash lets you actually play into that power fantasy. Good dueller, good crowd clearer, infinite health and sanity sustain. There is literally zero problem here.

On 11/29/2024 at 7:46 AM, Anis5240 said:

It really just said a lot about their shortcomings, making band-aid fixes onto the problems they themselves had made (Woodie's Lunar Renegade perk made him not transforming during full moon/moonstorms and simply made him a better 'Wilson').

Lunar renegade is the really annoying skill to me. I get why it has to exist but I thought it was a very funny drawback.

[Jakepeng99]

On 11/29/2024 at 7:36 AM, Wigfried said:

Also, Wolfgang's skill tree "Leg Training Day" works during bull riding,

Wait it does or is this mistranslation?

14 hours ago, RozeMeteor said:

Respectfully, this was sad to read, what if she was my main before ? i gotta move on just cuz her skilltree gutted her ? and just to be clear here wig and willow was my two most played chars, willow was reworked fully to be broken and wig in particular didn't earned nothing much significant, yes she was strong, but come on even woodie has qol in his skilltree and the best they could do for her was a spear and a helm ? Yes, i can play without using the skilltree which i do so but it's a strange feeling having to hinder youself cuz turns out your main didn't received a nice attention during their skilltree while the new meta is spawning at day one with tools to split the game in half.

Same.