suggestion Evaluate the different characters in detail, point out the pros and cons, and discuss whether Wendy is really strong

[purelove]

Analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of each character

• Maxwell:

He has superior intellectual recovery, extremely fast working speed, extremely high damage, extremely functional, has strong compatibility with Dreadstone, can use powerful books made by librarians, and basically depleting sanity is of no importance to him, the only drawback is the low health at the beginning,

However, because of the speed of rational recovery: 6.67 on its own, there is basically no pressure to deal with shadow monsters when it is not ready, and it has a large capacity storage space to carry with it.

Operation idea:

As far as Maxwell is concerned, the operation speed is extremely fast. In the first few days, he needs to find a mixed zone in order to better find the cemetery. After digging the grave, he reduces his mind and uses a large number of working villains to make them collect resources, handle the shadow monster by himself, and then quickly carry materials to find pasture and tame the cattle.

After that, you can rely on the blood amount of the cow and your own remote output ability to deal with basically all the monsters, shadow monsters are no longer a threat, and in most cases, the equipment wear and tear is low, only the head encounters the remote enemy need to carry a helmet, and then you only need to step by step from simple to difficult gradually challenge new monsters, get better equipment, you can get stronger and stronger.

Basically without any flaws, the perfect hexagon in famine. The Shadow Cage gives him a comfortable export environment

• Wanda:

It has a special mechanism, freely distributable strength, and will increase the total amount of distribution in the later stage. In the early stage, it has super survival ability, and after making exclusive weapons, it has a strong output ability. The 2.0 attack range makes her output mode change when dealing with most enemies, basically all of them are better changes.

For the shadow series equipment and (Dreadstone) has a strong compatibility, after the production of exclusive weapons for the shadow monster has a strong ability to repress, basically no longer have low rational pressure, with a lot of functionality, relying on a powerful clock, with basically no consumption of time and travel loss of the ability to quickly reach different places, 

You can quickly rush to different locations to operate to obtain materials, and the reverse table is interesting enough to make it possible to deal with some monsters when you do not have high speed.

Operation idea:

In the early stage, find the mixed zone as soon as possible, then find the cemetery, dig the grave to look for gems, and then quickly look for marble, and make the majority of the time fragments as Ageless Watch, then she will have the strongest ability of no cost recovery in the early stage, and the fault tolerance rate makes it easy to deal with most of the early monsters, and then look for Living Log.

Collect broken materials from the Pig House while searching ahead, grab rabbits while on the way, pack the second level of Magic technology after making the episode of Magic Technology, and go to ancient Times after making exclusive weapons. The better choice is actually to find ancient relics and release the second level of Magic technology to make exclusive weapons.

 The fault tolerance rate of wearing armor with several Ageless watches is extremely terrible. Before, I actively explored underground holes to find blue mushroom forests, so that I could obtain underground Living logs without finding Living logs on the ground, and I could also obtain a field of vision to better search for ancient relics.

In addition, when she finds the blue mushroom forest, she can directly go to the Ancient Archive to obtain Time Pieces. Basically, she has extremely high playability and high fault tolerance rate, and she has the ability to become strong even if she is slightly unlucky.

• Wolfgang：

The opening is complete, all-round strong, basically without any obvious shortcomings, the only disadvantage is that when recruiting followers, followers are a little noisy

• Willow: 

Gives 1.25 damage to an enemy that can be ignited, the lighter allows him to cook food at any time, and has a powerful, almost unlimited Dwarf Star. 

In the past, how many Star Caller's Staff, Thulecite Crown, etc. can be carried from ancient relics has been an important assessment of a player's understanding of mechanics and manipulation ability,

On the other hand, Star Caller's Staff has always played an important role because of Dwarf Star. Its own skill is Dwarf Star that reduces the time, but the effect is exactly the same. Basically, it can be released wirelessly, which makes her extremely easy to control the san value.

She even has the ability to stack items in one place in turn, and then quickly recover her sanity after repeatedly igniting and extinguishing them. Having super Bernie makes her not only have a strong ability to deal with most small monsters, but also a strong ability to deal with bosses, and even without Bernie, ignition is enough to deal with a large number of monsters.

There is also more than one Bernie, which is cheap to repair and is basically a perfect hack, which makes Willow also a strong fit for the Shadow series equipment and Dreadstone.

Operation idea: there is no operation idea, basically do not have to worry about the first autumn to do things, do not need to worry about the temperature problem, you can use your favorite rhythm to do things, high fault tolerance rate, high equipment fitness, powerful functionality.

• Woodie: 

In my opinion, the design of the skill tree is the most outstanding. The only drawback is that the advantages of the role of the robot are covered. It has strong initial capabilities, ultra-fast mode, super combat and night vision mode, super work efficiency mode, perfect role, and the difficulty of operation is extremely low.

Fun and functional, easy to deal with both bosses and small monsters.

• Wigfrid: 

Not strong enough compared to the other skill trees, the possible reason may be that the number of players is also so large that the official thinks that she is strong enough, and she does have strong combat ability, but in fact, she has frequent shortcomings, and she can not eat vegetarian food and work efficiency is not high, obvious disadvantages than potato Man.

It might be better to change the training to something like Valkyrie Clash and speed up your own movement.

Wurt: Perfect all-round strength

Winona: The power of perfect versatility

• Wormwood:

Living Log can be mass-produced, dragon fruit crops can be quickly found at the beginning, and Bramble Husk can be produced for everyone's use, which is the best partner of Wortox. Meanwhile, large crops can be produced as soon as possible, which can make use of Fruit fly king to plant a large number of Forget-Me-Lots,

As long as a field full of Forget-Me-Lots is planted, it is the best filler, a large field can fully feed even more than 10 players, and although the vegetative fighting ability is weak, but has a strong logistical ability.

To sum up, Wendy's ability to get bad stuffed monster meat is not a valuable resource for her as a logistical character, and she has the ability to deal with monkey shadow monsters, but in fact she's not fast enough, and the best way to harvest bananas on a regular basis is still to transplant banana crops, rather than go to the underground monkey area every time she's short.

If from the perspective of combat, you can defeat these weak and numerous monsters, there is no high return, and she is 0.75 ratio role for shadow monsters, more heavy her pressure, for shadow equipment (Dreadstone) low fitness, basically will not deliberately use, because she deals with shadow monsters.

And when she wants to operate like other roles or use her strengths to do things, she basically has no return, which makes her most powerful strengths, advantages are dispensable, and poor adaptation for many excellent equipment

 

 

 

 

[purelove]

Wendy needs Abigail to fight alongside her

[HowlVoid]

I don't think it's fair to dismiss the essentially 0 cost of Abigail for the infinite return of spoils from just about any mob. She could feed an entire server far easier than any Wormwood. 

Unfortunately Wendy is a bit of a fine line to walk in terms of new player interactions that I don't see a lot of people talk about. People can find themselves relying on Wendy as a crutch and while it's fine to enjoy the game that way it does come with the drawback of being a crutch. Increasing the characters skill floor might actually be a detriment to the game. And while other characters have done this, Wendy has the highest skill floor in the game (and one of the higher skill ceilings). 

Tbf, Willow also has a very high skill floor now also. Though arguably still not as high as Wendy's.

I do want to point out that klei tried to lower the skill floor with her first refresh but people scorned them for it. Only people with tons of skill where having a great time with the low hp playstyle. It's hard to have your cake and it eat too without fundamentally changing the character. And if they change her too much they run the risk of losing her fans.

[purelove]

1 hour ago, HowlVoid said:

I don't think it's fair to dismiss the essentially 0 cost of Abigail for the infinite return of spoils from just about any mob. She could feed an entire server far easier than any Wormwood. 

Unfortunately Wendy is a bit of a fine line to walk in terms of new player interactions that I don't see a lot of people talk about. People can find themselves relying on Wendy as a crutch and while it's fine to enjoy the game that way it does come with the drawback of being a crutch. Increasing the characters skill floor might actually be a detriment to the game. And while other characters have done this, Wendy has the highest skill floor in the game (and one of the higher skill ceilings). 

Tbf, Willow also has a very high skill floor now also. Though arguably still not as high as Wendy's.

I do want to point out that klei tried to lower the skill floor with her first refresh but people scorned them for it. Only people with tons of skill where having a great time with the low hp playstyle. It's hard to have your cake and it eat too without fundamentally changing the character. And if they change her too much they run the risk of losing her fans.

It doesn't cost anything extra, but it doesn't give much in return at the moment.

She was a good resistance character a few years ago, but after the new content update, it was overridden by other characters.

Wormwood quickly produced Living logs early on, and Living logs are important material for most characters and have aoe armor.

Willow has stronger group damage and defense, as well as Bernie, who attracts hate, and has excellent equipment fit.

Wolfgang has greater productivity and damage.

Wanda and Maxwell look difficult, but with practice, first Autumn can fully compensate for their shortcomings.

In fact, the Wendy lower limit is already high enough that if it continues to drop, there is also the risk that beginners playing the character will stop learning, and the character will completely lose the learning curve of the challenge adventure.

She is weak in the face of large monsters, and powerful in the face of small monsters, but the rewards given by small monsters are very limited, and dealing with spiders is a process that every player must go through, which is also a way that can be quickly learned.

As you can see, if you need to ensure a new player's experience, it is best to provide her with a strong but difficult late-stage skill tree, and one that provides an easy but less intense skill tree. But in this, a strong and difficult skill tree is even more critical.

Please do not mistakenly overestimate the weak monsters, continue to strengthen the early stage will only make dealing with small spiders quickly become faster, if you do not want to solve the ability to deal with large monsters, her skill tree will only become no improvement, even if it is increased by 300 health, for large bosses is a few attacks

The reason why some players try Wendy is not all because of her early simple difficulty, but to play Wendy has the pleasure of playing like a dress-up game, she is the best dress-up doll in the game.

The vast majority of expert players who are proficient in Wendy can play the characters I mentioned above.

Compared with Wendy's weak status quo in the later period, each of these roles is like a cheating role, and the difficulty of Wendy's early operation is only less than a few roles.

And most master Wendy players stick with her like they're trying out the Soul series.

[Kevinnator]

Wendy is like one of the easiest characters to play as for a beginner. Completely free light at darkness, meaning you can be unprepared for night and still be fine. Can easily deal with most early game threats while being excellent against hoards of enemies, which most characters first need to do proper prep for if you're innexperienced.

I fully understand why Klei considers her strong 'cus she is. She might not deal insane damage like other characters or capable of big farms for a day 1000 world but she makes so many early challenges in this game trivial so you can focus on other things. Keep in mind that most players in this forum are experienced. Play with any newbie with a somewhat hands-off approach in helping them and they will die 50 times in autumn, yet magically only die once if they're Wendy as darkness and groups of enemies are of little issue now. I think people in here completely neglect the perspective of newbies too much.

And what are you talking about? Spider loot is like the best thing you can have which Wendy effortlessly can get tons of, especially for a full lobby. Glands are nice for healing, silk is used for so much and the meat can be used for a lot of crock pot dishes and eggs. And again, without costing a single resource to do this.

[purelove]

22 minutes ago, Kevinnator said:

Wendy is like one of the easiest characters to play as for a beginner. Completely free light at darkness, meaning you can be unprepared for night and still be fine. Can easily deal with most early game threats while being excellent against hoards of enemies, which most characters first need to do proper prep for if you're innexperienced.

I fully understand why Klei considers her strong 'cus she is. She might not deal insane damage like other characters or capable of big farms for a day 1000 world but she makes so many early challenges in this game trivial so you can focus on other things. Keep in mind that most players in this forum are experienced. Play with any newbie with a somewhat hands-off approach in helping them and they will die 50 times in autumn, yet magically only die once if they're Wendy as darkness and groups of enemies are of little issue now. I think people in here completely neglect the perspective of newbies too much.

And what are you talking about? Spider loot is like the best thing you can have which Wendy effortlessly can get tons of, especially for a full lobby. Glands are nice for healing, silk is used for so much and the meat can be used for a lot of crock pot dishes and eggs. And again, without costing a single resource to do this.

Another fact is that times are changing.

If you had said this to me years ago, it would have been perfectly true, and with survival at its core, she would have been great to lead beginners slowly through the game.

But actually, Don't Starve Together now has a game mode like rpg, and as the player's level improves, such a mode can still make players accept, even challenging and fun things, but with the update of the subsequent content, Wendy seems no longer qualified to facilitate the experience of the later content.

Now, with most character games bringing Dreadstone gear around the first 20 days or so, Wendy was obsolete. As I've always argued, at some point she became completely wes. I believe that no new player ever tries wes directly, and Wendy, even for new players,

There are options like Willow and Woodie, both of whom can easily solve the weirdness you're talking about, and they can solve the things Wendy can't solve, and Wendy has turned into the last century, still using old tools and ideas to worry about her food.

[purelove]

I want you to review this article again, Wendy's weakness is that, even with a lot of training, she can get less than other characters, because her natural 0.75 makes her deal with the boss, most of the equipment to improve her less

[hyoton123]

Yeesh. No.

[WenericMember]

The difficulty, IMO,  is that Wendy is indisputably the best in the game at baseline survival. She has a bodyguard for threats that target you. She can farm spiders for healing, silk and meat. Her sanity drain means that with a top hat you basically never have to deal with spiders.

For ANR don't starve, she was almost undebatably top 5. The issue is, since then, ROT and FB have added so many new threats, powercreep and QOL. "Survival" is usually a baseline to engage with the game, rather than a target. While Wendy's hex gives her something over Wilson, she's probably the worst equipped overall to deal with the lategame.

"Is Wendy strong" is the question same as "Is survival the most important aspect of a survivor."

What wendy needs are a mix of earlygame utility perks and late game, high skill expression perks

The other issue is while Wendy could just be a casual character, she also has an incredibly high skill ceiling, so Klei has to balance Wendy for two different crowds at once.

[purelove]

12 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

The difficulty, IMO,  is that Wendy is indisputably the best in the game at baseline survival. She has a bodyguard for threats that target you. She can farm spiders for healing, silk and meat. Her sanity drain means that with a top hat you basically never have to deal with spiders.

For ANR don't starve, she was almost undebatably top 5. The issue is, since then, ROT and FB have added so many new threats, powercreep and QOL. "Survival" is usually a baseline to engage with the game, rather than a target. While Wendy's hex gives her something over Wilson, she's probably the worst equipped overall to deal with the lategame.

"Is Wendy strong" is the question same as "Is survival the most important aspect of a survivor."

In fact, part of the reason is that the Chinese player base is larger, we even have 10 people assigned to achieve the goal of defeating Ancient Fuelweaver and Celestial Champion in 11 days,

for most Chinese players, the game has entered the middle stage within 20 days.

We don't wander the ground for hundreds of days, which may be the reason for the divergence, because there's basically not much need for us to use spider drops, 20 days is enough for us to sweep through the Ruins, defeat the Ancient Guardian and the Nightmare Werepig, and carry the loot back to the ground home.

So, for a character who has no way to get more powerful abilities in the early stages, the mid-stage equipment is not suitable for Wendy, and the late stage needs to protect Abigail from becoming Wes, which is why Wendy players want to get enhanced

[WenericMember]

6 minutes ago, purelove said:

In fact, part of the reason is that the Chinese player base is larger, we even have 10 people assigned to achieve the goal of defeating Ancient Fuelweaver and Celestial Champion in 11 days,

for most Chinese players, the game has entered the middle stage within 20 days.

We don't wander the ground for hundreds of days, which may be the reason for the divergence, because there's basically not much need for us to use spider drops, 20 days is enough for us to sweep through the Ruins, defeat the Ancient Guardian and the Nightmare Werepig, and carry the loot back to the ground home.

So, for a character who has no way to get more powerful abilities in the early stages, the mid-stage equipment is not suitable for Wendy, and the late stage needs to protect Abigail from becoming Wes, which is why Wendy players want to get enhanced

Yeah that's basically the same here. It's not really the difference between regions, just casual players and more dedicated players.

[purelove]

23 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

The difficulty, IMO,  is that Wendy is indisputably the best in the game at baseline survival. She has a bodyguard for threats that target you. She can farm spiders for healing, silk and meat. Her sanity drain means that with a top hat you basically never have to deal with spiders.

For ANR don't starve, she was almost undebatably top 5. The issue is, since then, ROT and FB have added so many new threats, powercreep and QOL. "Survival" is usually a baseline to engage with the game, rather than a target. While Wendy's hex gives her something over Wilson, she's probably the worst equipped overall to deal with the lategame.

"Is Wendy strong" is the question same as "Is survival the most important aspect of a survivor."

What wendy needs are a mix of earlygame utility perks and late game, high skill expression perks

The other issue is while Wendy could just be a casual character, she also has an incredibly high skill ceiling, so Klei has to balance Wendy for two different crowds at once.

Please take a look at the post I edited, I think it is a good way to balance the needs of new players and old players

[Copyafriend]

19 hours ago, purelove said:

It doesn't cost anything extra, but it doesn't give much in return at the moment.

it gives literally everything in return. anything that can be killed by a player with a spear can be killed by abigail without costing any weapons, armor or healing. It is beyond broken from a earlygame balancing standpoint, and it's not even funny.

 

Yes, the game is more than just the early-game. but her being the absolute best at the early midgame (which is the only bit the vast majority of the playerbase will ever see)

 

is EXTREMELY important, and it cannot be overstated how important this is.

 

I genuinely dislike how skilled most players on the forum are. It really lends itself to them having braindead takes like "She only kills most early-midgame threats with zero effort or investment, she isn't even as strong as a flat 2x damage boost"

Yeah, the downside to her having no investment for her really good midgame stats is that there isn't a crazy amount of room for growth like wolfgang or wanda. She shines in the early game. She fills a niche, and is extremely good at her niche. you can't have a character that is the best character at early mid AND lategame, that's called being overpowered

 

Finally: I'm, tired of the 0.75x damage modifier. it's not even that impactful. OH NOOO, the fight will last... invert of 3/4ths is.. 4/3rds the time. 33% longer... OH NOOO that's absolutely unwinnable now and definitely not just a mild inconvenience.

if you get planar weapons her damage modifier becomes even less important. planar defense already cuts any high damage attacks into nothing (68 darksword damage becomes 41 damage with planar protection, for ANY planar enemy) meanwhile planar damage isn't affected by damage multipliers AT ALL. meaning that her 0.75x damage multiplier really turns into a 0.9 to 0.92 damage multiplier at WORST. it really is downright silly to be broken up about her lategame damage being ever so slightly worse IF her summon dies (her summon that is actually already pretty tough and is going to get tougher when they add the announced damage reduction equipment for wendy)

when she trivializes the first two thirds of the game, and trivializes the most important to farm boss in the game bee queen.

YES she is strong, other characters having a better lategame doesn't make her suddenly weak.

 

[purelove]

12 minutes ago, Copyafriend said:

it gives literally everything in return. anything that can be killed by a player with a spear can be killed by abigail without costing any weapons, armor or healing. It is beyond broken from a earlygame balancing standpoint, and it's not even funny.

 

Yes, the game is more than just the early-game. but her being the absolute best at the early midgame (which is the only bit the vast majority of the playerbase will ever see)

 

is EXTREMELY important, and it cannot be overstated how important this is.

 

I genuinely dislike how skilled most players on the forum are. It really lends itself to them having braindead takes like "She only kills most early-midgame threats with zero effort or investment, she isn't even as strong as a flat 2x damage boost"

Yeah, the downside to her having no investment for her really good midgame stats is that there isn't a crazy amount of room for growth like wolfgang or wanda. She shines in the early game. She fills a niche, and is extremely good at her niche. you can't have a character that is the best character at early mid AND lategame, that's called being overpowered

 

Finally: I'm, tired of the 0.75x damage modifier. it's not even that impactful. OH NOOO, the fight will last... invert of 3/4ths is.. 4/3rds the time. 33% longer... OH NOOO that's absolutely unwinnable now and definitely not just a mild inconvenience.

if you get planar weapons her damage modifier becomes even less important. planar defense already cuts any high damage attacks into nothing (68 darksword damage becomes 41 damage with planar protection, for ANY planar enemy) meanwhile planar damage isn't affected by damage multipliers AT ALL. meaning that her 0.75x damage multiplier really turns into a 0.9 to 0.92 damage multiplier at WORST. it really is downright silly to be broken up about her lategame damage being ever so slightly worse IF her summon dies (her summon that is actually already pretty tough and is going to get tougher when they add the announced damage reduction equipment for wendy)

when she trivializes the first two thirds of the game, and trivializes the most important to farm boss in the game bee queen.

YES she is strong, other characters having a better lategame doesn't make her suddenly weak.

 

You're actually putting the cart before the horse.

The current strength of Wendy's players is only slightly stronger in the early stages, and it can't do what other characters cannot do without.

In the later stages, it takes her a lot more effort to deal with the boss than the other characters, not just more time, the decrease in damage means she needs to stay focused longer to avoid mistakes, and the longer time makes it also need more armor support, you simply see a quarter less damage.

In fact, you also need a quarter more focus, a quarter more armor, a quarter more weapons, a quarter more food, and a quarter more low sanity, and the ability to deal with shadow monsters is on the same level as wes, if you want to keep Abigail fighting with her, she needs to operate several times more difficult than the other characters, and Maxwell, Wanda,

The Hercules can easily make up for Wendy's advantage early on, and they, especially Maxwell, have the most powerful abilities and are also strong early on

The sad point for Wendy players is that everyone only sees Wendy start quickly, and because she starts early, everyone thinks she is a low difficulty character. If it is necessary to keep Abigail's inventory to overcome in the boss challenge after the crack, he is even more difficult than wes, and generally, Wendy players will choose to take Abigail back. And that's a clear violation of Wendy's relationship with Abigail

[Kevinnator]

19 hours ago, purelove said:

Now, with most character games bringing Dreadstone gear around the first 20 days or so, Wendy was obsolete.

I find it hard to take your arguments seriously when you include this. This only proves my argument of people here not taking the perspective of the less experienced. Not a single innexperienced player is gonna fight Nightmare Werepig in their first year, let alone Autumn. You know how long that usually takes? At least 2 in-game years before they'd be willing to even head to the ruins. I can perfectly get Dreadstone gear in that timeframe, but not in a server with friends that only play the game like once a year.

[Sacco]

5 hours ago, purelove said:

I want you to review this article again, Wendy's weakness is that, even with a lot of training, she can get less than other characters, because her natural 0.75 makes her deal with the boss, most of the equipment to improve her less

So, i did some math and i found out that if abi is dealing 40 damage you get a 44% damage boost, which isn't the highest, but it's still a lot.

You have to take in consideration that 40 of your total damage is AOE which is extremely good against hordes, which you will encounter.

There is also to take in consideration that abi ha 600, increasing your health pool, lete explain:

you can make sometimes abi take a bit of damage for you if you need to heal in a fight, just enough to not make her die, you can cure her with dome potions...

[purelove]

30 minutes ago, Kevinnator said:

I find it hard to take your arguments seriously when you include this. This only proves my argument of people here not taking the perspective of the less experienced. Not a single innexperienced player is gonna fight Nightmare Werepig in their first year, let alone Autumn. You know how long that usually takes? At least 2 in-game years before they'd be willing to even head to the ruins. I can perfectly get Dreadstone gear in that timeframe, but not in a server with friends that only play the game like once a year.

This is the reason for the biggest disagreement, the forum players can't even clean the Ruins in the first fall, and the vast majority of the first year will not have the ability to defeat the monsters I am talking about, and in the Chinese Internet, this is a normal pattern.  

We will not stay in the early stage for too long, but take advantage of autumn to clean up and obtain resources as soon as possible.  This is also one of the reasons why Willow is powerful.  It can save several Star Caller's Staff and only need to upgrade one to Moon Caller's Staff.

 While other roles often need to carry at least 2 plus a Magiluminescence.

 I have gradually come to understand why klei Forum thinks Wendy is a powerful character, because forum players do not really play the performance and fast progress, but play the game at a casual speed, if you really try the Chinese server, even if there is a delay, you will find that

Within 20 days they solved most of the monsters they didn't have to wait for, and I know of a case where 12 people were able to defeat Ancient Fuelweaver and Celestial Champion in the first 11 days of the game,  so spider drops were pretty bad for us, But for casual gamers, this is their best food.

 Please don't think I'm showing off, but I really didn't know the game flow of forum players before, at that time I thought forum players and a portion of other players in China were jealous of Wendy, and now I see that it was just because they didn't play at the speed we are familiar with that gave Wendy a higher weight

And if you really respect Wendy players, you will find that skilled Wendy players do not need the same high damage ratio as Potato people.

In fact, if a skilled Wendy player successfully wins in the case of late-stage monsters, I am sure that her level is definitely more than most of the so-called difficult characters, and if we can ensure that Abigail does not disappear, so that Wendy does not completely become wes, her difficulty will be more difficult than wes, unfortunately, although I hope Abigail and I fight together.

But I don't keep Abigail too often, and I become a wes in these battles, going it alone.

What Wendy needs is the post-game ability, because I'm sure the post-game of any character is easier than Wendy, except wes, and if you deliberately preserve Abigail's survival, she will be the most difficult character in the post-game

Wendy players need to strengthen the skill tree which is difficult to operate but with high intensity in the later stage, because Wendy is originally one of the most difficult to experience the whole process, and Wendy needs not the ability to cross a stream for a day, but to climb a peak and carry a load.  

I think the skill tree set by myself can help both unskilled Wendy players and expert Wendy players.

 

7 minutes ago, Sacco said:

So, i did some math and i found out that if abi is dealing 40 damage you get a 44% damage boost, which isn't the highest, but it's still a lot.

You have to take in consideration that 40 of your total damage is AOE which is extremely good against hordes, which you will encounter.

There is also to take in consideration that abi ha 600, increasing your health pool, lete explain:

you can make sometimes abi take a bit of damage for you if you need to heal in a fight, just enough to not make her die, you can cure her with dome potions...

I have said and stressed many times to stop making childish statements without researching the situation, I have seen you many times, and you have always said that Wendy is an OP character, in fact, you are not a real player at all, but a politician, trying to change the laws of nature and science through language

In fact, Wendy will do more damage if she rides the cow and Abigail is present, but moving to keep Abigail alive will miss a lot of output Windows, and without Abigail she will become wes, and the cow, which is actually a mechanic that all characters can use.  

Wendy can indeed cause 1.54 times the damage of the cow (in the presence of Abigail), but in the real threat, to protect Abigail itself, has missed too much of the output window, other characters do not train the cow just because most of the characters have more powerful forces than the cow, only play Wendy, use to defeat the whole process of monsters,

Just know how bad she is, and the champion who won the title some time ago, he also knows that Wendy is very bad, very testing technology

In fact, there are some strong people who enjoy playing their favorite role, rather than who is strong to try who, but if the role they like has a strong opportunity, no one will refuse, and only other players who are not Wendy's players can shamelessly tout Wendy's advantages, and avoid talking about Wendy's disadvantages, and even tout small advantages, ignoring big disadvantages

[Sacco]

13 minutes ago, purelove said:

This is the reason for the biggest disagreement, the forum players can't even clean the Ruins in the first fall, and the vast majority of the first year will not have the ability to defeat the monsters I am talking about, and in the Chinese Internet, this is a normal pattern.  

We will not stay in the early stage for too long, but take advantage of autumn to clean up and obtain resources as soon as possible.  This is also one of the reasons why Willow is powerful.  It can save several Star Caller's Staff and only need to upgrade one to Moon Caller's Staff.

 While other roles often need to carry at least 2 plus a Magiluminescence.

 I have gradually come to understand why klei Forum thinks Wendy is a powerful character, because forum players do not really play the performance and fast progress, but play the game at a casual speed, if you really try the Chinese server, even if there is a delay, you will find that

Within 20 days they solved most of the monsters they didn't have to wait for, and I know of a case where 12 people were able to defeat Ancient Fuelweaver and Celestial Champion in the first 11 days of the game,  so spider drops were pretty bad for us, But for casual gamers, this is their best food.

 Please don't think I'm showing off, but I really didn't know the game flow of forum players before, at that time I thought forum players and a portion of other players in China were jealous of Wendy, and now I see that it was just because they didn't play at the speed we are familiar with that gave Wendy a higher weight

And if you really respect Wendy players, you will find that skilled Wendy players do not need the same high damage ratio as Potato people.

In fact, if a skilled Wendy player successfully wins in the case of late-stage monsters, I am sure that her level is definitely more than most of the so-called difficult characters, and if we can ensure that Abigail does not disappear, so that Wendy does not completely become wes, her difficulty will be more difficult than wes, unfortunately, although I hope Abigail and I fight together.

But I don't keep Abigail too often, and I become a wes in these battles, going it alone.

What Wendy needs is the post-game ability, because I'm sure the post-game of any character is easier than Wendy, except wes, and if you deliberately preserve Abigail's survival, she will be the most difficult character in the post-game

Wendy players need to strengthen the skill tree which is difficult to operate but with high intensity in the later stage, because Wendy is originally one of the most difficult to experience the whole process, and Wendy needs not the ability to cross a stream for a day, but to climb a peak and carry a load.  

I think the skill tree set by myself can help both unskilled Wendy players and expert Wendy players.

 

I have said and stressed many times to stop making childish statements without researching the situation, I have seen you many times, and you have always said that Wendy is an OP character, in fact, you are not a real player at all, but a politician, trying to change the laws of nature and science through language

In fact, Wendy will do more damage if she rides the cow and Abigail is present, but moving to keep Abigail alive will miss a lot of output Windows, and without Abigail she will become wes, and the cow, which is actually a mechanic that all characters can use.  

Wendy can indeed cause 1.54 times the damage of the cow (in the presence of Abigail), but in the real threat, to protect Abigail itself, has missed too much of the output window, other characters do not train the cow just because most of the characters have more powerful forces than the cow, only play Wendy, use to defeat the whole process of monsters,

Just know how bad she is, and the champion who won the title some time ago, he also knows that Wendy is very bad, very testing technology

SPEEDRUNS CAN'T BE USED TO BALANCE THE GAME.

Wendy can't speedrun the game? Amen.

In the speedrun enevironment Wolfgang is the most used character, just due to his combat perks.

Balancing a game towards speedrunning is the worst thing possible.

 

[purelove]

11 minutes ago, Sacco said:

SPEEDRUNS CAN'T BE USED TO BALANCE THE GAME.

Wendy can't speedrun the game? Amen.

In the speedrun enevironment Wolfgang is the most used character, just due to his combat perks.

Balancing a game towards speedrunning is the worst thing possible.

 

What's interesting is that you're actually taking the normal speed of play as a speedrun the game.  On multiplayer servers, after 10 days or so, powerful characters usually bring Star Caller's Staff, and even for me, as a Wendy player, single-player, 20 days ago,

It's a mistake to not be able to upgrade Moon Caller's Staff, which is a normal flow of the game, as fall play is a good business model, and if you continue to procrastinate, the next opportunity will be summer, because there are many things to do in the winter, such as Wanda,  who will be collecting resources while working on her teleport table.

 I want you to understand that it is normal to do these things in 20 days

This is not a pattern or speed to brag about at all, I'm actually saying that if you get used to playing in this pattern, you will find that at certain points you can easily get through the game, and if you miss the opportunity to do things, then you will have a hard time.

Used to doing things like this, lazy behavior itself, but will bring more disasters

23 minutes ago, Sacco said:

SPEEDRUNS CAN'T BE USED TO BALANCE THE GAME.

Wendy can't speedrun the game? Amen.

In the speedrun enevironment Wolfgang is the most used character, just due to his combat perks.

Balancing a game towards speedrunning is the worst thing possible.

 

In fact, the real famine of the game should not be calculated with time, but to earn operational resources, such a speed of operation is because of the four seasons, each season has the most important things, and the first autumn is like your parents to give you the first sponsorship.

 If you waste it, you will experience the pain of starting from scratch, and defeating the boss from underground also depends on how many resources can be brought from underground, so that you can use it as a springboard next time, make more and better moves next time, make more things and improve the fault tolerance rate, in fact, doing nothing in the first fall is like guarding a treasure without realizing it

[lio516]

10 hours ago, Sacco said:

So, i did some math and i found out that if abi is dealing 40 damage you get a 44% damage boost, which isn't the highest, but it's still a lot.

You have to take in consideration that 40 of your total damage is AOE which is extremely good against hordes, which you will encounter.

You don't need to say anything. Just post a video of you playing Wendy and using it to hit a boss, and hit us in the face with action, and if you can't do that, then shut up. I'm tired of you

People like you are the worst, always turning things upside down and muddling things up

Always in various places over and over again to say that it is easy to fight spiders, you want to fight spiders for a lifetime?

I really don't know what's going on in the heads of people like you, but is the drop of all kinds of little monsters a precious thing? If I give you 999, you can beat the boss better with Wendy, and even if I don't use Wendy, I can just brush the weirdo, so why do I keep focusing on this problem? Because you won't live long enough for the boss to show up? Because you don't play Wendy, you don't get to feel Abigail being killed by a few boss hits? Because Abigail is so good at shooting spiders? Why don't Wolfgang and Wanda kill spiders in seconds? Is it because you like to play?

There really should be a character use time feature, let's see how long people who say Wendy is strong actually use it

[Sacco]

28 minutes ago, lio516 said:

You don't need to say anything. Just post a video of you playing Wendy and using it to hit a boss, and hit us in the face with action, and if you can't do that, then shut up. I'm tired of you

People like you are the worst, always turning things upside down and muddling things up

Always in various places over and over again to say that it is easy to fight spiders, you want to fight spiders for a lifetime?

I really don't know what's going on in the heads of people like you, but is the drop of all kinds of little monsters a precious thing? If I give you 999, you can beat the boss better with Wendy, and even if I don't use Wendy, I can just brush the weirdo, so why do I keep focusing on this problem? Because you won't live long enough for the boss to show up? Because you don't play Wendy, you don't get to feel Abigail being killed by a few boss hits? Because Abigail is so good at shooting spiders? Why don't Wolfgang and Wanda kill spiders in seconds? Is it because you like to play?

There really should be a character use time feature, let's see how long people who say Wendy is strong actually use it

You are turning things upside down.

You are the one crying because someone has an opinion different than yours.

I just tell people my honest opinion, don't agree with me? Tell me why and don't insult me, because this means you don't have a valid argument against me.

I understand that the word nerf for your favourite character shouldn't be said, so you freak out.

But ehi, i'm just a chill guy after all and i never get mad... like others do.

[lio516]

26 minutes ago, Sacco said:

You are turning things upside down.

I just want to know if you play Wendy, you can see you everywhere, you can always see you talking about aoe damage, since you feel strong, so you play more Wendy, not Wolfgang and Wanda

[Sacco]

Just now, lio516 said:

I just want to know if you play Wendy, you can see you everywhere, you can always see you talking about aoe damage, since you feel strong, so you play more Wendy, not Wolfgang and Wanda

I've played every character in this game, heck i've even mained all of them throughout my life as a dst gamer.

I don't feel strong at all and i don't understand the connection between the feeling strong and playing wendy???

I just know that i am someone capable of playing this game pretty well.

[lio516]

56 minutes ago, Sacco said:

I've played every character in this game, heck i've even mained all of them throughout my life as a dst gamer.

You are definitely not a Wendy player, they can't possibly say that Wendy is strong, you are a liar and hypocrite, people like you who think they are very rational, people like you are the most harmful, go around saying they know the game and the characters, I see your comments in every article, repeatedly emphasizing the advantages instead of the disadvantages, now the boss is a whole lot of hit fly attacks, Wendy, riding a bull to fight is too risky, not to mention the effort and time it takes to tame a cow, Abigail is completely unable to take the hurt, a mouth is adding to the hurt, aoe, hitting spiders, not understanding the pain, pretending to be sane, publishing your stupid ideas, letting people who don't know the truth fall for it, I used to think you could understand, now I find you are just plain bad

[Sacco]

13 minutes ago, lio516 said:

You are definitely not a Wendy player, they can't possibly say that Wendy is strong, you are a liar and hypocrite, people like you who think they are very rational, people like you are the most harmful, go around saying they know the game and the characters, I see your comments in every article, repeatedly emphasizing the advantages instead of the disadvantages, now the boss is a whole lot of hit fly attacks, Wendy, riding a bull to fight is too risky, not to mention the effort and time it takes to tame a cow, Abigail is completely unable to take the hurt, a mouth is adding to the hurt, aoe, hitting spiders, not understanding the pain, pretending to be sane, publishing your stupid ideas, letting people who don't know the truth fall for it, I used to think you could understand, now I find you are just plain bad

That's crazy Who asked?

Be respectful to me, don't insult me, because from what you said you seem the idiot here (i know translation things, but this game really wants to insult me even without weird translations)