There is little benefit to creating additional Graves

[Siren11]

1 hour ago, WenericMember said:

Yeah, It's def got more griefing applications than it does practical.

I really like the skills and don’t think they should be removed. I like the idea about having them be like Warly’s crockpot, so other players could remove graves that were in bad locations. That and having graves be heavy would fix basically all griefing potential.

[WenericMember]

Just now, Siren11 said:

I really like the skills and don’t think they should be removed. I like the idea about having them be like Warly’s crockpot, so other players could remove graves that were in bad locations. That and having graves be heavy would fix basically all griefing potential.

Yeah, do that but compromise and merge the tier 2 and 3 versions, and its good i think.

Prolly adding a new tier 3 skill too

[Mr Giggio]

On 11/26/2024 at 8:33 PM, WenericMember said:

the skill is useless

I mean dark petal farm and pipspook at home delivering morning glories doesn't seem bad to me 

[Radicaljoe]

Everything has griefing potential, It's a cool skill that's useful for Wendy to have more dark petals spawners and pipspook spawn. Without having to base near a graveyard.

Also, greifers don't usually have the greatest skill or attention span in my experience, so I doubt any of them would make it to the FW arena, let alone even go there at all. They're there for a quick "teehee, I ruined it :D" then leave.

[somethin]

Why would griefers put in so much effort to block FW spawn when ypu can just play Webber and plop a nest on the portal/mid base or play anyone else then craft a torch?

[Lee Sy]

More convenient to collect items to craft potions.

Leave grave floating on the sea, as well as devil flowers generated then, by blowing up the dock. You can gather them together with boat to recover the sanity.

Ghost could cause damage beyond loading zone, use it to kill all the beasts you met.

All ideas  are from this video【温蒂技能树更新 全解析 饥荒联机】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12GBaYBEhp/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=2860f5c3aa1b5834067d609b8523a4f3

[Jazzuo]

56 minutes ago, Lee Sy said:

More convenient to collect items to craft potions.

Leave grave floating on the sea, as well as devil flowers generated then, by blowing up the dock. You can gather them together with boat to recover the sanity.

Ghost could cause damage beyond loading zone, use it to kill all the beasts you met.

All ideas  are from this video【温蒂技能树更新 全解析 饥荒联机】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12GBaYBEhp/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=2860f5c3aa1b5834067d609b8523a4f3

This is actually so cool that wendy has now an early passive farm :3

[Dingle]

1 hour ago, Lee Sy said:

More convenient to collect items to craft potions.

Leave grave floating on the sea, as well as devil flowers generated then, by blowing up the dock. You can gather them together with boat to recover the sanity.

Ghost could cause damage beyond loading zone, use it to kill all the beasts you met.

All ideas  are from this video【温蒂技能树更新 全解析 饥荒联机】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12GBaYBEhp/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=2860f5c3aa1b5834067d609b8523a4f3

So cool. I don't look often but theres a lot of ingenuity to see from bilibili community.

More modern bee queen ovens are more popular over there too. And I think the sail+flingomatic permafreeze trick started there too, but not sure.

[Lee Sy]

2 minutes ago, Dingle said:

theres a lot of ingenuity to see from bilibili community.

Another reason of  Wendy chaos these days is Klei never responds it. There are lots of passionate fans there, who produce thousands of feedbacks monthly, way more than forum(I guess, not sure, same amount at least), but no developer cares, it makes us down, Wendy is just the trigger.

Ignore it if you don't like these words, I just want to say it out.

[Dingle]

2 minutes ago, Lee Sy said:

Another reason of  Wendy chaos these days is Klei never responds it. There are lots of passionate fans there, who produce thousands of feedbacks monthly, way more than forum(I guess, not sure, same amount at least), but no developer cares, it makes us down, Wendy is just the trigger.

Ignore it if you don't like these words, I just want to say it out.

I don't think the devs post in outside forums much, to be fair.

[WenericMember]

7 hours ago, Mr Giggio said:

I mean dark petal farm and pipspook at home delivering morning glories doesn't seem bad to me 

Because there's a cap of 1 pipspook spawning a day and 4 graves being decorated at a time.

You can gather around a dozen graves at least naturally generated in a world, which is enough fro both of those applications.

 

 

To be clear, Grave Beautification & Relocation are fine in terms of application, but not particularly Graves by Wendy.

5 hours ago, somethin said:

Why would griefers put in so much effort to block FW spawn when ypu can just play Webber and plop a nest on the portal/mid base or play anyone else then craft a torch?

That's a fair point, but the way I was thinking was that with rollback something immediately noticsable like setting fire to base  could be reverted. While setting graves in base/ancient gateway isn't immediately apparent why it's a problem, and could exist past the point of rollback.

[Master_NiX]

On 11/27/2024 at 2:46 AM, kroban said:

Each time you "replant" or create a grave the dirt pile is reseted, so thats essentialy a free farm of blue,red gems, and easy gold from the trinkets.

You sure? When I replanted them the dirt pile was still there.

[Mike23Ua]

I’m pretty sure they’ll remove the ability to place grave stones on boats

 

[MarcoReverie]

Well, while I'm stuck into the subway, I'll to speak my mind. 

First, after read all the post, I start to considering that every character should be able to build a gravestone (even relocate), since the materials to craft it are commoun. But, it is true that Wendy is more sensible to death than other characters. And, sincerily speaking, I was not aware about the griefing aplications of both skills in combination.

For that reason, I'm one of those who believe this to skills should merge. And adding a special material which only Wendy can farm could be the key: mourning glories. I mean, what do you need for a burial? At least, a gravestone, a hole, of course a dead body (or bones), flowers and mourning.

Now, what are the utility of gravestone? For Wendy is clear, plus: to find trinkets (once) and to have a werepig farm.

But, here's my dilema, should be wendy the only one to have an easy way to get that farm? (It is according to her personality?)

Maybe I'm being to radical, but graves, tombstones and the graveyard must be not disturbed. Specially for Wendy.

Concluding, gravestones by wendy could be rework by giving a skeleton a phostumous burial to mining a mourning glory instead a bone shards, and dont place a tombstone (preventing griefing situations).

Finally, for me, tha fourth skill related to graves, is a new way able for resurrection in the way that only Wendy dabbles.

[MisterBilly]

That feels like a lot of hypothetical griefing scenarios that require a fair bit of effort. I feel like anyone could grief in a much more effective manner than this, but I wouldn't know.

[MarcoReverie]

1 hour ago, MarcoReverie said:

Finally, for me, tha fourth skill related to graves, is a new way able for resurrection in the way that only Wendy dabbles.

Edit. 

Sorry for the bad redaction.

Finally, for me, the fourth skill related to graves, should be a new way able for resurrection in the way that only Wendy dabbles.

[thesooz9000]

1 torch,  1 hammer, boom. base griefed. should we remove those options aswell?

[SilverSpoon]

32 minutes ago, thesooz9000 said:

1 torch,  1 hammer, boom. base griefed. should we remove those options aswell?

Base grief is discovered early on when someone returns to the base, specifically when still could rollback.

AFW arena grief, at its worst, after completes the Marble Sculptures, defeats the Shadow Pieces, collects fossils, defeats the Ancient Guardian, gathers gear for AFW, finds and kills the Tentapillars bound for the Atrium, traverses the Atrium, and is discovered.

[WenericMember]

Surprised only grave beautification was touched this patch. Hope the rest of the line gets attention.

[RussoDaFederal]

Everyone has already said relevant stuff so I'll just add the following: now you can write "died of ligma" on someone's grave. That's more than enough reason to spend another insight point.