The Shockscrap are very weak

[Keknutui]

After the last patch, most of the cartridges were clearly weak, but KLEI wrote that they would change those rounds that many people and I consider raw and weak, but I do not recall mentioning shockscrap.
At the moment, their damage is only slightly higher for gunpowder rounds (74) and the stage at which they are obtained is very late.
I suggest increasing the electric damage to ~ 100-120 units to justify their price, or remove the saffron feather from crafting. 
What do you think about this?

[Jakepeng99]

I dont really see any reason to bother with shockscrap rounds. 

[Radicaljoe]

I like the saffron feather, any feather type as Walter is easy to obtain. The scrap is the limiter for the rounds, and since it is pretty limited because people will need a lot for cc later.

If it was to be buffed maybe add electrical arcing. If creatures will be wet, then it makes sense that the electricity can jump between them. 

RN, that scrap cost makes it way to costly, especially when it has to be raining to make it reasonable to use, I think cursed rounds still out damage wetness shock rounds too.

[Jakepeng99]

2 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said:

like the saffron feather, any feather type as Walter is easy to obtain

Its a 2% chance if you kill them normally, its better to do what sneaky says.

[_mylilsunshine_]

18 minutes ago, Keknutui said:

After the last patch, most of the cartridges were clearly weak, but KLEI wrote that they would change those rounds that many people and I consider raw and weak, but I do not recall mentioning shockscrap.
At the moment, their damage is only slightly higher for gunpowder rounds (74) and the stage at which they are obtained is very late.
I suggest increasing the electric damage to ~ 100-120 units to justify their price, or remove the saffron feather from crafting. 
What do you think about this?

Just to clarify since your formatting can be confusing: Explosive Round (68.4) and Shockscrap (74.4 when wet, 42.5 dry).

7 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Its a 2% chance if you kill them normally, its better to do what sneaky says.

It's actually a 9% chance, which I will gladly take instead of capturing, traveling to the cave, caging it, waiting for it to be poisoned, going back to the surface to release them.

[Keknutui]

5 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Если вы убьёте их обычным способом, вероятность составит 2%, но лучше сделать так, как говорит Сникки.

It sounds very good, but they still have a problem like low damage and expensive scrap for the beginning and middle of the game

[This14Real]

74 damage and 100+ to wet mobs is weak? That’s crazy.

[flamboyant wolf]

1 minute ago, This14Real said:

74 damage and 100+ to wet mobs is weak? That’s crazy.

 

1 hour ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

Just to clarify since your formatting can be confusing: Explosive Round (68.4) and Shockscrap (74.4 when wet, 42.5 dry).

 

[grm9]

4 minutes ago, This14Real said:

74 damage and 100+ to wet mobs is weak? That’s crazy.

it's 74 to wet, around 40 to dry... can't even 2 shot wet hounds with x1 damage excluding the electric multiplier of the ammo     

about buffing the ammo, maybe make it require gears, electrical doodad or frazzled wires instead of scrap? otherwise you could end up with no scrap left in the world for the 1st CC summon because of walter players having consumed it all 

[Mysterious box]

2 hours ago, Radicaljoe said:

I like the saffron feather, any feather type as Walter is easy to obtain. The scrap is the limiter for the rounds, and since it is pretty limited because people will need a lot for cc later.

If it was to be buffed maybe add electrical arcing. If creatures will be wet, then it makes sense that the electricity can jump between them. 

RN, that scrap cost makes it way to costly, especially when it has to be raining to make it reasonable to use, I think cursed rounds still out damage wetness shock rounds too.

Yep thulecite is definitely still the strongest rounds it techincally always was but couldn't show it's true potential due to enemies moving too fast which honey and icker rounds fix.

56 minutes ago, grm9 said:

it's 74 to wet, around 40 to dry... can't even 2 shot wet hounds with x1 damage excluding the electric multiplier of the ammo     

about buffing the ammo, maybe make it require gears, electrical doodad or frazzled wires instead of scrap? otherwise you could end up with no scrap left in the world for the 1st CC summon because of walter players having consumed it all 

Electrical doodads sound like a better idea but if they think it's too cheap they could go the magic route and make it with moon stone instead.