purelove Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 Please remember that the most important prerequisite for speaking is that there is no right to speak without detailed investigation. There is a huge mistake in this forum, stemming from players who use characters that truly disrupt balance, yet claim to be maintainers of balance. If a true emphasis on balance is needed, their characters should not be eligible for skill trees that compensate for their shortcomings. They should think that their efforts and rewards are reasonable and use this to attack characters who have truly put in multiple efforts but have extremely low fault tolerance. This is infuriating. For example, when Wanda was released in 2023, after a year of development and exploration, only the most closed players would consider her a high difficulty character. At the beginning, she would easily obtain the most powerful non consumption fixed recovery ability in the entire game. As long as she planned correctly within the first 20 days, she could easily obtain weapons that seemed like another dimension. At this time, although her ability to rejuvenate decreased, she could deal with any monster, I mean any monster, and there seemed to be a near death field around her. At this point, it seemed like God mode had been opened, as if firearms had appeared in medieval wars. Some people actually thought that the difficulty of maintaining firearms far exceeded the violent deterrence they brought, and Wendy At the beginning of the beautiful game, At a certain point in time, the need to put in effort seems to suddenly shift from survival skills to RTS games, constantly focusing on Abigail's survival. However, in some people's mouths, the difficulty of walking a tightrope cannot compare to the recoil they endured when using firearms to bully ancient people. This is simply the most ridiculous thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo920101 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 So those who only enjoy the first year or first season of the game has been cut of "player"? too bad, all of a sudden everyone need to get a play through to earn right to speak now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1760984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 I have played like 2k hours of wendy and main warly. Am i allowed to provide feedback? She is fine, she is balanced by not being equally dumb on each fighting scenario. Period Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1760995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
purelove Posted November 25, 2024 Author Share Posted November 25, 2024 17 minutes ago, leo920101 said: So those who only enjoy the first year or first season of the game has been cut of "player"? too bad, all of a sudden everyone need to get a play through to earn right to speak now. When the skill tree reaches Wendy, Wendy players have the right to express concerns about their future situation, and Wendy players have no intention of interfering with any player's needs for their favorite characters. While the test server is still testing, isn't it time to express their opinions? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1760996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lio516 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 Only people who have played Wanda know what the other characters are like, Wendy only relaxes when she's fighting spiders, and the rest of the time it's torture Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 balance is a vague things to compare to each character, when the background lore of each theme of character is different. wanda life multiple timeline who knows how many years she lived. having a theme character as glass cannon, serve it well by having powerful unique weapon tied to the character theme. its not rare for me to not having a single damage taken from boss but died in the end cus i stand too close to polar light with eyebrella in my head. which is funny how this so called strong character is so bad with a mere temperature management. while wendy is basically a child with sister ghost. who thematically given lower attack cus she is little girl, who strong in crowd control with help of abigail who now can choose to have an attack up to 440 damage to single mob after mutated to lunar (gesalt-like) form. talking about the skill tree i believe there is a chance for it to be tweaked . while i believe half of the skill tree is good (means i found all 15 points can go to good branch of skill tree without any patch) but im sure the other choice can be tweaked even changed to fit her better. 32 minutes ago, lio516 said: and the rest of the time it's torture not sure about this many of player having 0.75 damage from wendy and wes as challenge instead of torture. also there is alot of player who choose to fight with ornery beefalo to make the fight easier. wendy can hide in bushhat while abigail wreck antlion. while other people cant. now mutated lunar abigail can deal up to 440 damage to mobs while she move like dodging attack mostly which is strong enough in mid to late game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lio516 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 34 分钟前, mima_ 说: 还有很多玩家选择与 Ornery Beefalo 战斗以使战斗更轻松 问题是,谁都能驯牛,这可不是 Wendy's 的专属,重点应该回到角色上,更何况很多怪兽都有一击飞就能把玩家打倒,除非你能毫发无伤 同样有行为问题的月亮阿比盖尔会在另一次攻击后围绕怪物来回移动 问题很多,他的模式切换是个问题 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, lio516 said: 问题是,谁都能驯牛,这可不是 Wendy's 的专属,重点应该回到角色上,更何况很多怪兽都有一击飞就能把玩家打倒,除非你能毫发无伤 同样有行为问题的月亮阿比盖尔会在另一次攻击后围绕怪物来回移动 问题很多,他的模式切换是个问题 why because everyone can tame beefalo it will be a problem ?? so u want a skill tree to remove her thematically downsides? nah its not going to happen. there is a way to avoid the downside like i said with beefalo. the other stuff that works around that is basically skill issue. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lio516 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 14 minutes ago, mima_ said: 所以你想要一个技能树来消除她在主题上的缺点吗 Abigail is too vulnerable to the boss, not to mention being knocked off the cow, and her shortcomings are too obvious I really don't understand why so many people think Wendy is such a strong character and not Wolfgang or Wanda,Even Willow's bear can draw 2600 blood Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst_lover Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 3 minutes ago, lio516 said: Abigail is too vulnerable to the boss, not to mention being knocked off the cow, and her shortcomings are too obvious 我真的不明白为什么这么多人认为 Abigail 比 Wolfgang 或 Wanda 更好,Even Willow 的幼崽可以达到 2600 血 +Wendy doesn’t have the opportunity like other characters to tame a rider because she always have to tame a ornery without mentioning the time and resources take to tame a beefalo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 What exactly do people want out of Wendy? What do you think she needs that her current skill tree and her base kit is not providing? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 8 hours ago, arubaro said: 我已经玩了大约 2000 小时的温迪和主要战争。我可以提供反馈吗? 她很好,她在每个战斗场景中都不会同样愚蠢,从而保持平衡。时期 我需要一些证明,因为我觉得你的大脑里充满了土豆 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erick was right Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 9 minutes ago, cyjs said: 我需要一些证明,因为我觉得你的大脑里充满了土豆 ዚብ ዛፕ ብሉርፕ ብሉርፕ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, Cosiek said: ዚብ ዛፕ ብሉርፕ ብሉርፕ 就该这样子兄弟,让我们用自己的语言说话 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 Just a heads up, 90% of people will not translate different languages and ignore your messages. If you want your message to be seen and acknowledged by most people, use English. And no, it's not the "native english speaker telling other people to speak his language!!!" situation. I am Polish. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161157-please-provide-your-insights-after-using-wendys-single-player-gameplay-throughout-the-entire-process/#findComment-1761289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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