Woby training max level buffs.

[Gashzer]

Thought these buffs deserve their own thread.

Right now Woby skills are pretty decent once maxed out. Training timing and amount of grind needed to max out needs reduced a tad and they just need that last wee unique effect when maxed to be worth it to hold on to woby into the late game.

• Agility maxed out allows walter to pick up/interact with items at regular speed while mounted on big woby.
• Bravery maxed also provided a passive lets say 60% protection and 10 planar defence it would be worth it.This would make it that while riding woby and wearing armour. Damage gets split between Walters armour and wobys infinite armour saving on Walter's armour durability.
• Support maxed gave Walter a passive 6.6 sanity gain per minute it would be good.
• Fetch needs to be more interactive - more clarity on how it functions.
• Dig timing needs adjusting - more clarity on how it functions.

Edit: these would be buffs to the tier 2 skills for each!

[Jakepeng99]

Fetch should automatically fetch identical items from Woby's inventory. Its too gimicky.

[Gashzer]

26 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Fetch should automatically fetch identical items from Woby's inventory. Its too gimicky.

I like it!

Give woby a unique tenth slot that acts as both wheelers compass allowing woby to track items and her to pick items of the same type automatically? Think that's a good way to implement it.

[Jakepeng99]

1 hour ago, Gashzer said:

I like it!

Give woby a unique tenth slot that acts as both wheelers compass allowing woby to track items and her to pick items of the same type automatically? Think that's a good way to implement it.

It might be easier if it was any item in her inventory slot than its own slot, for example if you are farming spiders you could put both silk, glands and meat in.

There could be a way to disable it, or a way to select specific items in Woby's inventory for him to collect.

 

 

 

Also, the second upgrade of the fetch skill should let Woby collect from things like grass tuffs and berry bushes.

His movement speed skill when maxed could also let Woby swim in water, which will be useful for collecting items in water and act as a synergy. (Riding woby in water might be too much?)

[Gashzer]

Just now, Jakepeng99 said:

It might be easier if it was any item in her inventory slot than its own slot, for example if you are farming spiders you could put both silk, glands and meat in.

There could be a way to disable it, or a way to select specific items in Woby's inventory for him to collect.

 

 

 

Also, the second upgrade of the fetch skill should let Woby collect from things like grass tuffs and berry bushes.

His movement speed skill when maxed could also let Woby swim in water, which will be useful for collecting items in water and act as a synergy. (Riding woby in water might be too much?)

Yeah your original idea was better than mine!

Small woby swimming would be very cute tbf 

[Jakepeng99]

I have another idea for bravery.

Maybe At max level, Woby gains the ability to bark which scares mobs. (Its an ability you can use while riding)

[Mysterious box]

2 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Thought these buffs deserve their own thread.

Right now Woby skills are pretty decent once maxed out. Training timing and amount of grind needed to max out needs reduced a tad and they just need that last wee unique effect when maxed to be worth it to hold on to woby into the late game.

• Agility maxed out allows walter to pick up/interact with items at regular speed while mounted on big woby.
• Bravery maxed also provided a passive lets say 60% protection and 10 planar defence it would be worth it.This would make it that while riding woby and wearing armour. Damage gets split between Walters armour and wobys infinite armour saving on Walter's armour durability.
• Support maxed gave Walter a passive 6.6 sanity gain per minute it would be good.
• Fetch needs to be more interactive - more clarity on how it functions.
• Dig timing needs adjusting - more clarity on how it functions.

Edit: these would be buffs to the tier 2 skills for each!

What are the stats for the maxed out trainings currently?

[Gashzer]

1 minute ago, Jakepeng99 said:

I have another idea for bravery.

Maybe At max level, Woby gains the ability to bark which scares mobs. (Its an ability you can use while riding)

Sounds useful too.

My original thought to giving passive infinite armour to woby is that you could stack 2 clothing equipments head/body while riding and still have a minimum level of defence to prevent you from bucking. 60% armour with 33 bucking damage allows you to take one terrorbeak hit without Walter wearing armour. 

1 minute ago, Mysterious box said:

What are the stats for the maxed out trainings currently?

Going from catuna's post.

Agility tier 2 maxed is very slightly faster than regular beefalo with glossamer saddle

Bravery tier 2 maxed is take 33 damage before bucking

Support tier 2 is halve sanity damage.

Not 100% on the fetch and digging tho. @Catuna_ am I right here? 

[Mysterious box]

21 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Going from catuna's post.

Agility tier 2 maxed is very slightly faster than regular beefalo with glossamer saddle

Bravery tier 2 maxed is take 33 damage before bucking

Support tier 2 is halve sanity damage.

Not 100% on the fetch and digging tho. @Catuna_ am I right here? 

This seems really bad considering we only get 4 badge points and level 2s cost a total of 3 badge points...

[Cap0319]

Just now, Mysterious box said:

This seems really bad considering we only get 4 badge points and level 2s cost a total of 3 badge points...

Pretty sure Level 2 only costs 2 badge points, but yeah its still very limiting especially with how long it takes to train Woby 

[Gashzer]

Just now, Mysterious box said:

This seems really bad considering we only get 4 badge points and level 2s cost a total of 3 badge points...

Yeah the speed one is good atm.  You dont need to pin badge level 1 to pin level 2... its dumb I know. So we can have two tier 2 badges

But yeah they need buffs. I'm trying to be realistic with my buff suggestions because I don't expect klei to do any mad changes to Walter 

[Mysterious box]

1 minute ago, Cap0319 said:

Pretty sure Level 2 only costs 2 badge points, but yeah its still very limiting especially with how long it takes to train Woby 

You need level 1 to activate the perk and level 2 to enhance it meaning a total of 3

1 minute ago, Gashzer said:

Yeah the speed one is good atm.  You dont need to pin badge level 1 to pin level 2... its dumb I know. So we can have two tier 2 badges

But yeah they need buffs. I'm trying to be realistic with my buff suggestions because I don't expect klei to do any mad changes to Walter 

Wait does it give tier 1s effect with it?

[Cap0319]

Just now, Mysterious box said:

You need level 1 to activate the perk and level 2 to enhance it meaning a total of 3

Nah you can skip the level 1 perk, we still should have more badge points tho

[Mysterious box]

3 minutes ago, Cap0319 said:

Nah you can skip the level 1 perk, we still should have more badge points tho

We don't they dropped it to 4 from 6 but that aside are you absolutely sure because dig's level 1 and 2 say they do different things.

[Gashzer]

12 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

We don't they dropped it to 4 from 6 but that aside are you absolutely sure because dig's level 1 and 2 say they do different things.

They worded it badly in the update notes. But tier 1 is merged into tier 2.

 

[Mysterious box]

4 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

They worded it badly in the update notes. But tier 1 is merged into tier 2.

5 badge slots would be ok. Allows for one extra tier 1 badge. Especially if klei does buff the tier 2 effects which they need to.

Thanks one last question how do you train bravery and support?

[Gashzer]

Just now, Mysterious box said:

Thanks one last question how do you train bravery and support?

Tank hits. Like alot of hits. Catuna quoted 2000 damage

Tbh I'm doing alot of piggybacking off what others are saying. Didn't have alot of time to do my own testing last night.

[Jakepeng99]

Does training progress for badges stay? For example, is it possible to have all badge effects?

[Radicaljoe]

About how long does speed training take?

[Jakepeng99]

15 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Thought these buffs deserve their own thread.

Right now Woby skills are pretty decent once maxed out. Training timing and amount of grind needed to max out needs reduced a tad and they just need that last wee unique effect when maxed to be worth it to hold on to woby into the late game.

• Agility maxed out allows walter to pick up/interact with items at regular speed while mounted on big woby.
• Bravery maxed also provided a passive lets say 60% protection and 10 planar defence it would be worth it.This would make it that while riding woby and wearing armour. Damage gets split between Walters armour and wobys infinite armour saving on Walter's armour durability.
• Support maxed gave Walter a passive 6.6 sanity gain per minute it would be good.
• Fetch needs to be more interactive - more clarity on how it functions.
• Dig timing needs adjusting - more clarity on how it functions.

Edit: these would be buffs to the tier 2 skills for each!

You got a heart from the developer.

I have a feeling the concept is being added.

[Gashzer]

1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said:

You got a heart from the developer.

My cold heart only accepts big woby buffs 

But going off what Jason mentioned in the update notes I don't think my buff ideas fit what they are looking for. So hopefully Klei come up with some creative unique abilities for Big Woby.

Gonna throw some more basic mini buffs out there for brainstorming:

• Digging badge 1 should allow big woby to uncover suspicious dirtpiles while Walter is mounted. 
• Bravery badge 2 maxed: When Walter dies. He doesn't actually die but instead big woby runs over to pick Walter up then runs away from the threat then Walter recovers (revives) on top of big woby and you gain control back. You lose 50% max hp when revived this way, hp returns to "full", hunger remains same as before death and you gain additional 75 sanity on top of what you had left. Big woby can only do when your max hp is above 50% or you die for real.
• Support badge 2 maxed:  big/small woby can hold 6 more inventory slots. I feel like this badge is the weakest of the 3 big woby badges, needs greater utility.
• Agility badge 2 maxed: big woby can leap over gaps (someone elses idea i forget my bad) Pretty much anywhere you can place a winona bridge, woby can just leap over it quickly instead.
• Fetch badge 2 maxed: small woby gains additional inventory slot to act as a resource tracker like wheelers compass but instead of an arrow, small woby runs toward the item if it exists in the world and you need to follow her. Doesn't run towards item if its stored in a chest or backpack or any player storage.

Klei give us back 6 badge slots. Make it so tier 1 badges can only half train tier 2 badges meaning people need to use tier 2 badges to max out training. Then give tier 2 badges a unique effect when maxed to justify all the hard work.

[Catuna_]

13 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Not 100% on the fetch and digging tho. @Catuna_ am I right here? 

Yep! Those numbers check out