Balter Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 I am fed up with hearing y’all slander Walter with your “professional opinion” on how to improve him when you can hardly even survive with him. I am all for rework ideas but it isn’t a good idea to pander a character towards the people who don’t even give him a chance and just say he sucks instead of ACTUAL people who play him for his quirks and have genuine ways to improve his play style. (Honestly those people probably won’t even play him more than a week during rework) “but balter you slander Wolfgang all the time when you don’t even play him” yeah but the thing is I can actually survive with him and do it too easily. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 5 minutes ago, Balter said: you slander Wolfgang all the time when you don’t even play him” yeah but the thing is I can actually survive with him and do it too easily still waiting for the ham bat and 3 marble armors easy wolfgang FW kill with only holding F that you promised like 3 months ago Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 And this is why you need to wear the pinetree pioneer hat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A4FE Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 MY LORD IT'S A WALTER SWEEP IN THE THREADS ISN'T IT I'm all seriousness though, I would be totally devastated if Walter received a rework massively overcorrecting for what mostly amounts to flavor and misconceptions. Now I've never even played Walter, but seeing him be "smoothed out" and made palatable, even for the good that would come from making him more attractive to the large majority, would make me a little sad. Regardless though, I'm hopeful that there's opportunity to update him in a way that leaves ALL parties satisfied, with his character remaining (I love the head cannon dynamic of Walter being unbelievably brave but his only voice of reason, Woby, is a total coward), reverance and respect for the current ""inferior"" Walter, and new features/qol to let others feel more comfortable or less guilty for choosing beloved, beloved, Walter. Cool post! Hope it doesn't turn into a warzone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Balter said: I am fed up with hearing y’all slander Walter with your “professional opinion” on how to improve him when you can hardly even survive with him. I am all for rework ideas but it isn’t a good idea to pander a character towards the people who don’t even give him a chance and just say he sucks instead of ACTUAL people who play him for his quirks and have genuine ways to improve his play style. (Honestly those people probably won’t even play him more than a week during rework) “but balter you slander Wolfgang all the time when you don’t even play him” yeah but the thing is I can actually survive with him and do it too easily. You heard it everyone. Stop expressing your opinions, leave it to this guy because they know what's better. The irony of this post is immaculate, you call other peoples opinions "professional opinions" sarcastically and here you are calling yourself a professional Walter player and that only people qualified in your eyes should give their opinions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Balter said: when you can hardly even survive with him. the forumites usually are skilled enough to survive with Wes with a 2 times stat drain mod, so... this is not a "You can't even survive!!!" contest. We can. It's about gameplay, not difficulty. Walter isn't hard at all. He's just a normal character, with the UPSIDE of getting more nightmare fuel. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 22 minutes ago, Reiko24 said: the forumites usually are skilled enough to survive with Wes with a 2 times stat drain mod, so... this is not a "You can't even survive!!!" contest. We can. It's about gameplay, not difficulty. Walter isn't hard at all. He's just a normal character, with the UPSIDE of getting more nightmare fuel. This. I don't know if everyone has played Walter, but I have, trying to figure useful or hidden new strats. I'm not an expert, just a big fan of the game lol. Your average PVE Walter early game is mostly using big Woby to scout for the things you need, to start the beefalo taming process. Probably use the slingshot a couple of times to aggro enemies, or get a few more gold nuggets if you are short, and that's it. If you are into rushing things, killing bosses super early and all, you just use Big Woby and don't even touch the slingshot. Mid and late game Walter ends up being a pre-rework Wilson with no sanity drain and a personal Chester. Nobody in the late game with all the beefalo options and the new ranged options will use big Woby or the slingshot anymore, unless it's for funsies, or a personal challenge. Hopefully a skill tree will fix that, keep big Woby and the slingshot relevant at any stage of the game (like Maxwell perks or Willow's, or Wurt, or Winona, Etc) By the way, OP's PVP videos of Walter are super fun though, and I'd recommend everyone to watch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChintzyGnat Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 I dont play walter so I have no input. I just prefer merms doing all my work for me sorry... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 If you don't like flood of threads about Walter, make a thread about the Ancient Fuelweaver, especially the polling thread. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 39 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said: If you don't like flood of threads about Walter, make a thread about the Ancient Fuelweaver, especially the polling thread. Walter is low-key awesome and ancient fuelweaver needs a nerf. Let's combine the two Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160247-enough-with-the-%E2%80%9Cprofessional-opinion%E2%80%9D-about-my-boy/#findComment-1753422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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