FluffyBun Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 Currently, Winona's Shadow Side skills are quite boring, aiding only in exploration, safety, and her Planar Strike. I believe Winona should be able to do a little more with her Shadow Side powers, to bring her up to par with her Lunar Side abilities. My suggestion hopes to remedy Winona's Shadow Side weakness by giving her new tools to play with General Changes Winona can now investigate 4 Pure Horror-bearing objects before her skill goes on cooldown. Pure Horror chance for eligible investigation objects is increased from 25% chance for 1, to 100% chance for 1 and 25% chance for 2. Roseate Catapult Crafted with 1 Winona's Catapult, 1 Pure Horror, and 1 Fragile Rose. Requires Winona to have Shadow Seeker II and investigate a Stagehand to prototype. Roses will automatically extinguish the catapult if it is on fire. If the Roseate Catapult is destroyed, it will be saved by Charlie and will return to the nearest Night Light or Roseate Spotlight in item form. Roseate Spotlight Crafted with 1 Winona's Spotlight, 3 Pure Horrors, and 2 Fragile Roses. Requires Winona to have Shadow Seeker II and investigate a Ruins Light to prototype. Roses will automatically extinguish the spotlight if it is on fire. When deployed, will automatically float above Winona's head. Has a charge and needs to be recharged if low. Will seek out the nearest Generator to charge itself if low. Can emit light while charging. Counts as a Night Light when near a Generator. Will be saved by Charlie when destroyed, returning the non-Roseate version. Roseate Generator Crafted with 1 Winona's Generator, 4 Pure Horrors, and 3 Fragile Roses. Requires Winona to have Shadow Seeker II and investigate a Thulecite Statue to prototype. Roses will automatically extinguish the generator if it is on fire. Automatically destroys large falling objects within its area of effect. When picked up, also stores every structure connected to the Roseate Generator. When placed down, places down every structure connected to he Roseate Generator. Will be saved by Charlie when destroyed, returning the non-Roseate version. Conclusion I believe this changes will give Shadow Winona her own unique identity, trading the convenience of teleports for the safety of Winona's structures. Additionally, it will also fix the primary problem with her, which is the inconvenience of acquiring Pure Horror in the early game. It also plays into her engineering side a little more than how it currently does. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159365-making-winonas-shadow-side-more-satisfying-to-play/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 I actually rely on Winona’s shadow side quite heavily in the early game, and though I like the concept of shadow strike being obtainable pre-rifts, I do believe in practice that particular skill is extremely niche at best, so yeah, at least 2 of her shadow perks are essentially useless. The roseate generator would be super handy to have though! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159365-making-winonas-shadow-side-more-satisfying-to-play/#findComment-1744175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyBun Posted August 27, 2024 Author Share Posted August 27, 2024 9 minutes ago, cybers2001 said: I actually rely on Winona’s shadow side quite heavily in the early game, and though I like the concept of shadow strike being obtainable pre-rifts, I do believe in practice that particular skill is extremely niche at best, so yeah, at least 2 of her shadow perks are essentially useless. The roseate generator would be super handy to have though! Shadow Strike IS obtainable pre-rifts. Investigating a Ruins Fissure has a 25% chance of spawning a Pure Horror, pre-rift. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159365-making-winonas-shadow-side-more-satisfying-to-play/#findComment-1744179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demigardenerner Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 4 minutes ago, FluffyBun said: Shadow Strike IS obtainable pre-rifts. Investigating a Ruins Fissure has a 25% chance of spawning a Pure Horror, pre-rift. It’s a 1/4 every 4 minutes it’s not very good Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159365-making-winonas-shadow-side-more-satisfying-to-play/#findComment-1744181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted August 27, 2024 Share Posted August 27, 2024 6 minutes ago, FluffyBun said: Shadow Strike IS obtainable pre-rifts. Investigating a Ruins Fissure has a 25% chance of spawning a Pure Horror, pre-rift. Yes, what I meant was I liked the existing tree for that reason. Pure horror can also be obtained from Nightmare Werepig btw. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159365-making-winonas-shadow-side-more-satisfying-to-play/#findComment-1744182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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