Genry Posted May 19, 2024 Share Posted May 19, 2024 I checked solid + thermal insulation and gas + thermal insulation, everything works. It doesn’t matter what material the tile is made of - there is no exchange of temperature between the liquid and the thermal insulation tile. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156213-why-do-liquids-not-transfer-heat-to-thermal-insulation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnambic Posted May 19, 2024 Share Posted May 19, 2024 Can you give specific examples? In my experience, this is simply not true; you might have found a bug, or maybe misunderstood some aspect of heat transfer. For an overview on how heat transfer is generally understood to work, check the "Thermal Conductivity" wiki page. Note specifically the section on floating point calculation limits. Under certain circumstances, liquid tiles can have too much thermal mass for heat transfer to occur, due to those limits. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156213-why-do-liquids-not-transfer-heat-to-thermal-insulation/#findComment-1715494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genry Posted May 19, 2024 Author Share Posted May 19, 2024 43 minutes ago, pnambic said: Can you give specific examples? In my experience, this is simply not true; you might have found a bug, or maybe misunderstood some aspect of heat transfer. For an overview on how heat transfer is generally understood to work, check the "Thermal Conductivity" wiki page. Note specifically the section on floating point calculation limits. Under certain circumstances, liquid tiles can have too much thermal mass for heat transfer to occur, due to those limits. I read about the floating point, and yes, if the liquid has a huge thermal force, such as magma, and if there is a lot of it, then heat exchange does not occur at all. Now I understand. 51 minutes ago, pnambic said: Can you give specific examples? In my experience, this is simply not true; you might have found a bug, or maybe misunderstood some aspect of heat transfer. For an overview on how heat transfer is generally understood to work, check the "Thermal Conductivity" wiki page. Note specifically the section on floating point calculation limits. Under certain circumstances, liquid tiles can have too much thermal mass for heat transfer to occur, due to those limits. I understand that if the magma cannot change its temperature for a minimal tick, then in order to avoid endless heat transfer to the insulator (tile), the heat transfer is completely turned off Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156213-why-do-liquids-not-transfer-heat-to-thermal-insulation/#findComment-1715509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakemw Posted May 20, 2024 Share Posted May 20, 2024 As the person who wrote that section, if you want even more details I also added a section to the Insulted Tile article which gives the exact thresholds for heat exchange to occur under normal circumstances, and if you expand the expandable section an explanation of how to fairly easily extend that to abnormal circumstances. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156213-why-do-liquids-not-transfer-heat-to-thermal-insulation/#findComment-1715686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Havok9 Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 On 5/20/2024 at 11:12 AM, blakemw said: As the person who wrote that section, if you want even more details I also added a section to the Insulted Tile article which gives the exact thresholds for heat exchange to occur under normal circumstances, and if you expand the expandable section an explanation of how to fairly easily extend that to abnormal circumstances. Can you please stop insulting tiles? They are not perfect, but they're doing the best they can. Yet you just go and tell everyone about their limitations, without even caring. That's abuse. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156213-why-do-liquids-not-transfer-heat-to-thermal-insulation/#findComment-1715992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnambic Posted May 21, 2024 Share Posted May 21, 2024 51 minutes ago, 6Havok9 said: Can you please stop insulting tiles? They are not perfect, but they're doing the best they can. Don't worry, they're very thick-skinned. The emotional flow is negligible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156213-why-do-liquids-not-transfer-heat-to-thermal-insulation/#findComment-1715999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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