Why do you consider DST a sequel ?

[gamehun20]

4 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Free contect pack = free dlc's

that would be true if there was a download button for it but gods and nightmares and the dst story arcs are downloaded already when you download the game

[JustAFlower]

French guy, why you need so constantly to prove your point in a toxic way, just end this debate once and for all. DST is a sequel, DS stopped development, Don't Starve franchise is still here. Don't be dramatic please.

And if you will continue being like that, you know that no one will like you here that way. Make your own game and franchise, then we'll maybe maybe maybe talk.

Even if you reply on me, I won't care about what you say, I will care if your neurons came to sense. I'm tired of you. Good day/night.

[Horsheen]

I think you need to come to terms with the fact that DS is a finished game and will receive nothing more than bug fixes unless the devs want otherwise. You are pining for a 'sequel' when a sequel already exists.

[Hungry French]

45 minutes ago, SpookyXy said:

They are updates to the base game of Dont Starve. Are you upset that the updates didn't receive further updates? It's not even true because they have received updates. Did you even look at what was in the big 2023 QoL before you came here to complain about it? New stuff was in it.

DS release ( Transfer to DS)
2013 - several updates for DS (Transfer to DST)

2014 - RoG ( Transfer to DST )

2016 ( New world with DS-like biomes, without cave and ruins, less mobs and only 3 exclusive bosses and volcanoes)

2019 ( Hamlet another small world, but bigger than Shipwrecked )

2019 Qol ( Transfer from DST + Maxwell )

2023 Qol ( Transfer from DST )

DST 2016-2023 :

 

Moreover, all QoL DST are completely unique in the main. When will they be moved ? If developers do not want to create content updates, then let them transfer at least Qol.
Where is Queen Bee ? And Shipwrecked be boss ? Why is the Bundling Wrap Blueprint falling off the annoying bees that are shitting the Blueprint all over? 

Where is Toadstool, so that DS caves have something other than Slurtles and bunny mans ?

 

 

[Jakepeng99]

Only thing DS has is the dlcs (Aswell as minor things like ruin and cave changes). Dst has more. It is mostly a sequal and not a spin off. Spin offs dont take attention over the main game.

[Hungry French]

2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Only thing DS has is the dlcs (Aswell as minor things like ruin and cave changes). Dst has more. It is mostly a sequal and not a spin off. Spin offs dont take attention over the main game.

Normal sequels also do not distract attention from the main game

[Jakepeng99]

1 minute ago, Hungry French said:

Normal sequels also do not distract attention from the main game

Normal sequals completly cut off the previous games from existance to never be touched, besides bug fixes. 

[Hungry French]

14 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Normal sequals completly cut off the previous games from existance to never be touched, besides bug fixes. 

Normal sequels like a Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 2. Which are both good and they do not replace each other.

Or remember Klei  Shank and Shank 2.

[Mike23Ua]

Here… watch this- 

https://m.youtube.com/@kleient/videos

start from the very bottom of the list to the videos from 12 years ago…

Then you can see exactly how many updates Don’t Starve under went between Early Beta, and where it ended at earlier this year (that’s A LOT of Content & support if I’m being honest..)

To say that DS only got 2 updates & 2 QoLs is a massive MASSIVE lack of knowledge of what all updates DS actually DID Get…

[Hungry French]

10 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Here… watch this- 

https://m.youtube.com/@kleient/videos

start from the very bottom of the list to the videos from 12 years ago…

Then you can see exactly how many updates Don’t Starve under went between Early Beta, and where it ended at earlier this year (that’s A LOT of Content & support if I’m being honest..)

To say that DS only got 2 updates & 2 QoLs is a massive MASSIVE lack of knowledge of what all updates DS actually DID Get…

Mike. None of this is exclusive to DS. All these updates are also in the DST, which is why the DST has had 10 years of updates or even more.

 

[Mike23Ua]

5 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Mike. None of this is exclusive to DS. All these updates are also in the DST, which is why the DST has had 10 years of updates or even more.

 

The “Exclusive” things in Dont Starve are things like Un-Reworked characters, Actual meaningful & significant gameplay effecting downsides, A Cardboard Cutout Ocean, An actual Rogue-Lite campaign Adventure, Progression Based Content Unlocking (you only started with Wilson then unlocked everyone else as you play) and Currently it even has the Shipwrecked & Hamlet DLCs that are exclusive to DS.

Just the cardboard ocean ALONE effects Gameplay- Because players have to deal with Enemy infested Chokepoints like this one:

If this was in DST you could simply build a boat on the water to sail completely around this Choke Point.

My point is that DS & DST have Significant differences between one another, and unless your campaigning hard for a new Single player DLC (which you should be doing in the DS forums and not the ones for DST…) then you should just let a fully developed & complete game end content development while Klei focuses on DST or even a newer game that replaces DST, Same as how DST replaced DS.

[Pomato]

Help I can't take this anymore somebody get me a therapist and another therapist for my therapist

 

[SpookyXy]

19 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Mike. None of this is exclusive to DS. All these updates are also in the DST, which is why the DST has had 10 years of updates or even more.

 

It has all those things because it is a sequel, sequels build upon the previous entry. By your logic Super Mario Wonder, a game whic came out a couple weeks ago, had 38 years of content updates because its a sequel to a game from 1985.

[fabin]

this thread is so needlessly stupid, jeez

[Uedo]

6 hours ago, Hungry French said:

1.Wow. I've been waiting for 2 QoL for 10 years.... I wonder what DST players are waiting for over the next 10 years ? 2 QoL in 10 years ?

2.The common antagonist in DST is one - They. And then they are characters of the most distant plan.

3.And what is it ?

4.What exactly does not suit you in DS gameplay ?

5.The same can be said about DST

6.I have doubts that Klei will answer someone with such a question.

7.In DST servers, not shards because the game cannot work with shards when more than 1 person is playing.

8.DST is such a franchise lore in which it is very leaky.
   Each update gives more and more plot holes.

9. Like in DST.

1. Dunno.

2. Sure.

3. Maybe I don't wanna share, not every question deserves an answer.

4. My experience compared to playing DST, I prefer it - Whether you agree or not isn't going to change my enjoyment or influence yours, Not everything is a debate.

5. Ok.

6. Well they're really not going to if you don't ask are they?

7. Ok.

8. It does.

9. Ok.

[Hungry French]

32 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

The “Exclusive” things in Dont Starve are things like Un-Reworked characters, Actual meaningful & significant gameplay effecting downsides, A Cardboard Cutout Ocean, An actual Rogue-Lite campaign Adventure, Progression Based Content Unlocking (you only started with Wilson then unlocked everyone else as you play) and Currently it even has the Shipwrecked & Hamlet DLCs that are exclusive to DS.

Now remember the exclusive content of DST

 

33 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

My point is that DS & DST have Significant differences between one another, and unless your campaigning hard for a new Single player DLC (which you should be doing in the DS forums and not the ones for DST…) then you should just let a fully developed & complete game end content development while Klei focuses on DST or even a newer game that replaces DST, Same as how DST replaced DS.

Replaced is the dumbest thing that exists among the creatures of games.  Releasing a second game that completely replaces the original for almost all players is a soulless way to create games.

TF2, Dota 2, CS 2 are games that are not good sequels, but substitutes for the game.
Games should not lose their value for players because : Wow, we moved all the content from the original, improved the graphics and now play, and forget about the old game.

This is the same if you have played in Shank 2 and will not play part 1 simply because all the content in Shank 2 has been changed and there are a lot of new things in general.

If the sequel replaces the original game, then the Sequel has no soul.

[JustAFlower]

You're too stubborn french guy, aren't you ? I really don't understand how you're still here.

[Hungry French]

23 minutes ago, SpookyXy said:

It has all those things because it is a sequel, sequels build upon the previous entry. By your logic Super Mario Wonder, a game whic came out a couple weeks ago, had 38 years of content updates because its a sequel to a game from 1985.

This is a made from scratch game in which all levels and mechanics are unique. 
Mario 1985 remains good because it is unique in everything.
Therefore, both games are worth playing.

Sequel ≠ Old game +

DST is something like a multiplayer remake, it literally copies everything from the DS and changes and adds new content.

 

29 minutes ago, fabin said:

this thread is so needlessly stupid, jeez

As well as many things that are on this forum. Are you surprised by such things ?

4 minutes ago, JustAFlower said:

You're too stubborn french guy, aren't you ? I really don't understand how you're still here.

Rather, I have too much hope for people... 

[JustAFlower]

3 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Rather, I have too much hope for people... 

Just stop. This hope is useless. Listen to me and the others : DST is a sequel you literally can't avoid it, it's been said by the creator themselves. DS stopped development. Don't Starve franchise is still alive. What is your hope doing ?(small favor, reply with short answers, I'm tired of reading essays)

[PunkShark]

I really don't know how clear i can be with the fact DS is over since the last time you asked these questions. And it is clear you can simply not cope with the fact the game is done.
You can't understand DST is a sequel simply because you don't like it, that it doesn't play how you want it to play just because it is based on multiplayer rather than only singleplayer, using the most minimal of plot points for it to not count as a sequel when it has been stated by klei, and others that it is a sequel to the events of DS 

Don't Starve wasn't abandoned, it was finished. It has been finished since 2014 and had extra content added to it through DLC expansions. Those expansions added no new plot points to the story apart from small threads to connect the dots of the same world. DST's updates aren't dlc's yes, they're free expansions but they are still just as relevant as normal updates as they progress the plot further and further. Games are allowed to be finished and end their time as a product when the devs are satisfied with the product. DST is an online service so of course they're gonna update it as much as they can because it gives them a way to make money and have jobs. 

Despite it playing the same, DST has revamped nearly everything DS had because of the plot expanding. Nearly every scenario in DST is because of the plot, Charlie taking over, creating new bosses, finding the atrium, ocean turning sailable because of the moon pieces falling, Maxwell and Wilson creating the postern, etc, etc. which is why none of these things cannot be in DS because they're in a different reign. 


EDIT: I realize i might come off as a little tilted and I apologize for that but please understand what everybody else is trying to tell you. 
There is no point dragging this further. If you can't live with the truth of the matter then i have nothing else to tell. 


 

[fabin]

11 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

As well as many things that are on this forum. Are you surprised by such things ?

yeah, because of how hilariously deranged this all is. dst is a sequel, end of story. ds won't be getting content updates because the devs moved on, and so should you. alright, i'm bored, have fun punching air or something

[SpookyXy]

5 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

This is a made from scratch game in which all levels and mechanics are unique. 
Mario 1985 remains good because it is unique in everything.
Therefore, both games are worth playing.

Sequel ≠ Old game +

DST is something like a multiplayer remake, it literally copies everything from the DS and changes and adds new content.

 

This reply is nearly incomprehensible. It's been fun guys but I'm going to stop replying.

[Hungry French]

22 minutes ago, JustAFlower said:

Just stop. This hope is useless. Listen to me and the others : DST is a sequel you literally can't avoid it, it's been said by the creator themselves. DS stopped development. Don't Starve franchise is still alive. What is your hope doing ?(small favor, reply with short answers, I'm tired of reading essays)

I was talking about another hope. Hope in people...

[Jakepeng99]

2 hours ago, Hungry French said:

Normal sequels like a Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 2. Which are both good and they do not replace each other.

Or remember Klei  Shank and Shank 2.

Dst doesnt replace ds either. The dlcs make it so. Games like team fortress 2 are made to replace games like team fortress 1.

Dark souls and shank are completly different to dst since they are more like an expansion, rather than the same thing with extra stuff and some changes.

Only game company i know who updates previous sequal titles is Ninja kiwi. They keep adding new maps randomly to battles 1, and i honestly have no clue why when they would want to get more players onto battles 2.

[Hungry French]

41 minutes ago, PunkShark said:

I really don't know how clear i can be with the fact DS is over since the last time you asked these questions. And it is clear you can simply not cope with the fact the game is done.
You can't understand DST is a sequel simply because you don't like it, that it doesn't play how you want it to play just because it is based on multiplayer rather than only singleplayer, using the most minimal of plot points for it to not count as a sequel when it has been stated by klei, and others that it is a sequel to the events of DS 

Don't Starve wasn't abandoned, it was finished. It has been finished since 2014 and had extra content added to it through DLC expansions. Those expansions added no new plot points to the story apart from small threads to connect the dots of the same world. DST's updates aren't dlc's yes, they're free expansions but they are still just as relevant as normal updates as they progress the plot further and further. Games are allowed to be finished and end their time as a product when the devs are satisfied with the product. DST is an online service so of course they're gonna update it as much as they can because it gives them a way to make money and have jobs. 

Despite it playing the same, DST has revamped nearly everything DS had because of the plot expanding. Nearly every scenario in DST is because of the plot, Charlie taking over, creating new bosses, finding the atrium, ocean turning sailable because of the moon pieces falling, Maxwell and Wilson creating the postern, etc, etc. which is why none of these things cannot be in DS because they're in a different reign. 


EDIT: I realize i might come off as a little tilted and I apologize for that but please understand what everybody else is trying to tell you. 
There is no point dragging this further. If you can't live with the truth of the matter then i have nothing else to tell. 


 

It's not that I can't admit that DST is a sequel, but that DST doesn't deserve to be called a sequel.

You literally said yourself that the DST is being updated because of the thirst for money.

And you are extremely lacking in imagination if you cannot imagine how DST content can be adapted for DS. Everything from the Atrium to Rifts can be added and lore reasonably. Absolutely everything.

There is so much room for ideas and solutions for DS, and you can't even imagine how it can be in DS.
Ewecus is an example of how anything and everything from DST can be transferred to DS. You only need a desire.

11 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Dark souls and shank are completly different to dst since they are more like an expansion, rather than the same thing with extra stuff and some changes.

You called Dark Souls 2 and Shank 2 expansion...

Omg...Sequel is 2.0 the version for you?