hoppin mandrake Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I don't know how they pick which characters to go with but I'd probably do it according to how popular the characters are among players. For example, if I went with Wendy or Wigfrid I'd likely pair them with the least played/popular characters to keep it balanced, such as Wes or Wurt. These stats are from 2020 and don't include Wanda but I don't suspect they'd be much different today. With the last skill tree update they picked 2 of the more played/popular characters and one not so popular character. If they keep with this pattern you may see a couple characters from the top of the list and then one or two from the bottom thrown in. This chart was taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/dontstarve/comments/idxxel/infographic_on_the_most_used_character_in_total/ Btw here is a site that the author made https://dst.resamvi.io/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, hoppin mandrake said: I don't know how they pick which characters to go with but I'd probably do it according to how popular the characters are among players. For example, if I went with Wendy or Wigfrid I'd likely pair them with the least played/popular characters to keep it balanced, such as Wes or Wurt. These stats are from 2020 and don't include Wanda but I don't suspect they'd be much different today. With the last skill tree update they picked 2 of the more played/popular characters and one not so popular character. If they keep with this pattern you may see a couple characters from the top of the list and then one or two from the bottom thrown in. This chart was taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/dontstarve/comments/idxxel/infographic_on_the_most_used_character_in_total/ Oooh that IS an interesting way of theorizing potential future additions. I think Wormwood is less "less popular pick" and more "DLC survivor pick" - the three DLC survivors listed are at the bottom, behind Wes. Interesting that both Wolfgang and Woody were chosen but NOT Wendy or Wigfrid. From this I think Wurt is almost guaranteed a lock, Webber and Winona being the other two perhaps? or maybe Winona and WX? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppin mandrake Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, WenericMember said: Oooh that IS an interesting way of theorizing potential future additions. I think Wormwood is less "less popular pick" and more "DLC survivor pick" - the three DLC survivors listed are at the bottom, behind Wes. Interesting that both Wolfgang and Woody were chosen but NOT Wendy or Wigfrid. From this I think Wurt is almost guaranteed a lock, Webber and Winona being the other two perhaps? or maybe Winona and WX? Btw I edited my post so that it's more up to date because I realized the author also made a website with up to date stats. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, hoppin mandrake said: Btw I edited my post so that it's more up to date because I realized the author also made a website with up to date stats. Now every second character is missing so slightly less helpful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppin mandrake Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, WenericMember said: Now every second character is missing so slightly less helpful. Yeah I switched back never mind haha. Edit: I'm always editing my posts when I either get new information or I'm just dissatisfied with the final result lmao. I should probably just make new posts instead of editing old ones to keep it less confusing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Gashzer said: Willow with the only follower that can attack shadow creatures. Winona with the most powerful craftable in the game And Walter with the best early game perks in the game before you get access to the celestial portal and become all characters. I fail to see how these characters are the weakest links lol Willow's follower that can attack shadow creatures isn't even that good. 2000 HP with no resistance or regen isn't very much when a Terrorbeak does 50 a hit, has 400 HP, attacks every 1.5 seconds, and there can be multiple of them. Take it into the nightmare cycle and it dies, use it regularly and it dies within a few days, but if you go Moose Woodie in nightmare cycle, you're almost certainly coming out at over half HP and getting a ton of fuel out of it, then clearing half the ruins. A weremoose idol is something Woodie can craft super easily and allows him to solo kill any enemy in the game (yes, including the Ink Blights) other than certain bosses. Bernie, meanwhile, requires that Willow either has a Wilson on her team who shaves or that she goes insane and kills a bunch of rabbits for beard hair and also shaves a beefalo. Walter's early-game perks are decent, yeah, since he basically has Chester and a riding-only beefalo for next to free, but his slingshot's underwhelming and you'd honestly be much better off never riding Woby and just taming an ornery beefalo. The reason? You can take any non-ranged hit for basically free while mounted on a beefalo as long as you don't take more than a thousand damage (so you do still need to kite, but only really against bosses or huge hordes; you're fine to tank a rook or two), but taking a hit as Woby both damages you and makes you vulnerable to more hits. Plus, an ornery beefalo (especially with a war saddle) is just straight-up going to outdamage his slingshot even with the best ammo. Winona is a swap character by nature and sucks early-game since she needs a bunch of gems. Most people who play her just build a couple catapult farms and then switch off her since that's her one trick and anyone can power her generators. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, randiao said: 2 hours ago, randiao said: This may be the preview, waiting for the update date dead inside, dead outside and dead in sight. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, randiao said: This may be the preview, waiting for the update date Nope, Wes is 100% coming on April the first. 3 hours ago, hoppin mandrake said: I don't know how they pick which characters to go with but I'd probably do it according to how popular the characters are among players. For example, if I went with Wendy or Wigfrid I'd likely pair them with the least played/popular characters to keep it balanced, such as Wes or Wurt. These stats are from 2020 and don't include Wanda but I don't suspect they'd be much different today. With the last skill tree update they picked 2 of the more played/popular characters and one not so popular character. If they keep with this pattern you may see a couple characters from the top of the list and then one or two from the bottom thrown in. This chart was taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/dontstarve/comments/idxxel/infographic_on_the_most_used_character_in_total/ Btw here is a site that the author made https://dst.resamvi.io/ I think this is outdated. Wormwood and Wurt have 100% went up after changes and community realisation, same as Maxwell ect. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Nope, Wes is 100% coming on April the first. I think this is outdated. Wormwood and Wurt have 100% went up after changes and community realisation, same as Maxwell ect. They posted the link to the live site I think, but it didn't show every second Name Either way here's what appears to be the current one, with me editing the names in. Most notably Wanda Jumped up, as have the new skill tree characters. Warly and Walter have fallen behind too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, WenericMember said: They posted the link to the live site I think, but it didn't show every second Name It does, the UI is just confusing. half the names are on the left side, half are on the right side, to avoid the text overlapping onto eachother I guess. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, skile said: It does, the UI is just confusing. half the names are on the left side, half are on the right side, to avoid the text overlapping onto eachother I guess. No I put the names on the right side there so we could actually use the more recent statistics lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, WenericMember said: No I put the names on the right side there so we could actually use the more recent statistics lol. ah, that makes more sense Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, WenericMember said: They posted the link to the live site I think, but it didn't show every second Name Either way here's what appears to be the current one, with me editing the names in. Most notably Wanda Jumped up, as have the new skill tree characters. Warly and Walter have fallen behind too Wait when did Wolfgang become so populour? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenship2 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: Wait when did Wolfgang become so populour? i'd assume its because of certain youtubers who amplify wolfgang's ability and say he's an op 'speedrun' character Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppin mandrake Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 15 hours ago, WenericMember said: They posted the link to the live site I think, but it didn't show every second Name Either way here's what appears to be the current one, with me editing the names in. Most notably Wanda Jumped up, as have the new skill tree characters. Warly and Walter have fallen behind too 10 hours ago, skile said: ah, that makes more sense 53 minutes ago, lenship2 said: i'd assume its because of certain youtubers who amplify wolfgang's ability and say he's an op 'speedrun' character I believe the "Count of Characters being played" is for characters that are currently being played, because it changes often when you update the page. So it's not really a good indicator of what characters are the most played over a longer period of time for more than an hour or so. The author didn't really add an option to select a wider time frame. The best option seems to be the attached chart where you can see the amount of each player being played over the past week. You can select them to filter out the ones you don't want to see. I looked at each one and noted a rough estimate of their usage range over the past 5 days. Maybe one day I'll look at the code that is shared on github and see if I can get some data from some wider time frames of more than 5 days. Like 1 month, 6 months, a year, and so on. 1st: wendy 200-400 2nd: Wigfrid 100 - 250 Woodie 100 - 250 3rd: Wolfgang 100 - 200 Wilson 100 - 200 4th: Wx-78 50 - 100 Wickerbottom 50 - 100 Wormwood 50 - 100 Webber 50 - 100 Wortox 50 - 100 Wanda 50 - 100 Maxwell 50 -100 5th: Willow 50 6th: Walter 25 - 50 Winona 25 - 50 7th: Wurt 20 - 50 8th: Warly 20 - 40 9th: Wes 0 - 15 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WONTow Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I unironically hope Willow is amongst the last to get skilltrees. Would make up for Klei rushing out a crusty refresh meanwhile Wickerbottom and Maxwell just casually becomes the strongest characters in the entire game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/152256-who-do-you-think-the-next-skilltrees-are/page/2/#findComment-1678147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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