goatt Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 as title. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146634-suggestion-allow-pinchin-winch-to-work-on-dock-tiles-just-like-fishing-tin/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowbirdRH Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 It seems logical enough, but I'm having a hard time seeing anything practical about it. Unless just as a decoration? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146634-suggestion-allow-pinchin-winch-to-work-on-dock-tiles-just-like-fishing-tin/#findComment-1626449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 @ShadowbirdRH They can be used to knobby tree nut in tiny water space inside land. For the context, currently, this is impossible because any time the nut touches tiny water by any creative way you can think of, it teleports to nearby land. My suggested essentially hopes to change this herhaps intended teleportation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146634-suggestion-allow-pinchin-winch-to-work-on-dock-tiles-just-like-fishing-tin/#findComment-1626576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowbirdRH Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I'm under the impression that such restrictions are in place to suggest that these trees, which are native to the open ocean, need at least a minimum amount of watery terrain to survive. The grass raft already lets us plant knobby tree nuts in pretty tight waters. The only push further I see being at all reasonable would be relaxing the placement restriction of the grass raft, which requires 3x3 water despite being able to maneuver through 2x2. In which case, it'd be a lot simpler getting the trees where you want them with a grass raft rather than docks and winches, unless you really want to plop them down in an x1 creek or puddle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146634-suggestion-allow-pinchin-winch-to-work-on-dock-tiles-just-like-fishing-tin/#findComment-1626603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 @ShadowbirdRH My suggestion is to remove such restriction. Not entirely, but via the suggested way. A more interesting question relevant to your comment would be: is it necessary to add such restriction, or is there a better way? I think it's not necessary. And even if the thematically reasons you mentioned, there are still better ways. For example, make them stay young forever in small cracks. Or make the grown trees truck smaller. The bottom line is, using hard code to teleport nuts out of the water is kinda bad. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146634-suggestion-allow-pinchin-winch-to-work-on-dock-tiles-just-like-fishing-tin/#findComment-1626666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 @ShadowbirdRH Heavy objects teleporting outside of tiny waters was put in place as a measure against griefing, as you could theoretically take heavy objects and sink them in areas where no raft can reach with a winch, allowing someone to prevent the ANR and RoT quest lines. Which is fair enough. Like goatt suggested though, if winches worked on docks you would be able to reach any sunken object on any tile, and this griefing measure wouldn't be necessary anymore for those extreme cases. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/146634-suggestion-allow-pinchin-winch-to-work-on-dock-tiles-just-like-fishing-tin/#findComment-1626667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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