Various changes in saved in-game settings

Hi @Mastada, I don't suppose you have a save file from before things got strange? Bugs like this are quite difficult to track down and the more information we can gather the better.

As well, if you see it happen again, please let us know! We'll also keep an eye out for this kind of issue, thanks for the info.

I've had things like this happen in my game, but i myself can't provide the save for when they happened as its been many cylces since they happened. I've had things like my shove vole ranch suddenly switch from feeding regolith to having iron ore mixed in. I've had a regolith only manual use conveyor loader that dumps extra regolith into my volcano power facility (to be melted into more magma) to suddenly have things like coal and slime end up in it. I've had conveyor loaders that are specifically setup to have ice shipped to melt into water suddenly clogged with other materials. Storage bins set to certain materials suddenly adding a type that wasn't selected by me. I've only ever seen it happen upon loading the game, never while running it. I have rarely had things like coal, metal and nutrient fertilizer end up in a compost building (which i thought this was fixed back a few fixes).

Edited June 11, 2020 by oconzer

@Ipsquiggle TL:DR Can not replicate. 

After reading your comments I went back to my save files. The first saved cycle I found the change was on cycle 369. The previous saved cycle where it was still working was cycle 337. So I loaded up 337 and just let it run. Periodically I checked in to see if it changed, and it did not, all the way up to cycle 370. So, no replication. I was hoping I could give you something to work with, but the change did not occur, so I guess we just chalk this up and close this out.

Any time there is a chance for human error to be the cause of a problem, I am certainly willing to accept that I might have made a mistake. But i cant think of any way that I could have *easily* changed the filter option on the gas filter without it being obvious, unless there is some sort of keyboard command to change the filter from natural gas to NONE. It seems it would be difficult to change it, accidentally.

And as mentioned in the original post, I have had other little things happen. For example, on two different occasions I had a liquid element sensor go from my setting to NONE. But again, I can't replicate it.

As Oconzer mentioned, I too, often have problems with hatch critter feeders  once I start getting a lot of farms (more than lets say four or five) or perhaps when I get too many dupes. In this colony, I was seeing how long I could last with 100 dupes. And once you get a lot of dupes, sometimes things get a little wonky.

Not complaining mind you. If I can find something to replicate, and make the game better, I'm happy to do so.

If you still wish to see the two earlier save files, I can provide.

Thanks~

@Mastada I figured it wouldn't replicate, but I had to ask...  There have been several reports similar to yours, I'm quite certain that something is going on. But because it seems to always happen quietly in the background, the current list of culprits consists of: The Whole Game Hahahhahahah  

The inventories getting strange materials in them appears to be an older, separate issue that we're also still trying to track down.

In any case, thanks for taking the time to report this!

47 minutes ago, Ipsquiggle said:

@Mastada I figured it wouldn't replicate, but I had to ask...  There have been several reports similar to yours, I'm quite certain that something is going on. But because it seems to always happen quietly in the background, the current list of culprits consists of: The Whole Game Hahahhahahah  

The inventories getting strange materials in them appears to be an older, separate issue that we're also still trying to track down.

In any case, thanks for taking the time to report this!

I personally think it has to do with the sweep (or storage) orders screwing up sometimes. Like if i had to guess (seeing as I don't know how the game is exactly coded), the game is probably having some sort of storage / sweep contamination between dupes (possibly due to seperate thread issue???) that when a dupe suddenly drops a task midway to go do another task, that a dupe that currently is carrying materials ends up picking up the task (without dropping what they currently have) and then ending up causing the mess with random changes to storage (and stuff ending up where it's not supposed to go). As for the errors with the filters, I think that might be isolated to loading the game (I don't use filters as I use automation to sort my gases / liquids via valves and element sensors).

Edited June 11, 2020 by oconzer

22 hours ago, oconzer said:

 As for the errors with the filters, I think that might be isolated to loading the game (I don't use filters as I use automation to sort my gases / liquids via valves and element sensors).

I think there is a decent chance this is correct. Or at least something to troubleshoot. For example, once I get a system going for a few dozen cycles (say, this filtration system in the far bottom right hand corner), and it appears to be working properly, I have a tendency to forget about it and move on to other tasks. It's often when I load in a game and I do a quick overview check of the base, that I often notice something might have gotten changed without my consent.

I realize I just said I don't check old systems often while playing... but over the course of time I'm always checking in on all systems, just not very often. But I certainly do catch them upon loading up a game. Might be coincidence, or there might be something to it.