Echsrick Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 what do you count as a stun here? hit stun? sleep? those are stuns but will they count? needs more detail, otherwise if only electric attacks then who is even goin to recruit them in the first place? no one makes electric weapons in the first place since there expensive Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, Echsrick said: what do you count as a stun here? hit stun? sleep? those are stuns but will they count? needs more detail, otherwise if only electric attacks then who is even goin to recruit them in the first place? no one makes electric weapons in the first place since there expensive Elding Spear ftw Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Semind said: Elding Spear ftw that takes a while to even make Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 minutes ago, Echsrick said: that takes a while to even make I wonder if you're under the impression that you need the restrained static to have electric damage using the Elding Spear. Because I had my Elding Spear doing electric dash attacks before Day 10 on this patch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 46 minutes ago, Echsrick said: what do you count as a stun here? hit stun? sleep? those are stuns but will they count? needs more detail, otherwise if only electric attacks then who is even goin to recruit them in the first place? no one makes electric weapons in the first place since there expensive Thats the point. Also, it’s not hard to make them… Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 45 minutes ago, Semind said: I wonder if you're under the impression that you need the restrained static to have electric damage using the Elding Spear. Because I had my Elding Spear doing electric dash attacks before Day 10 on this patch. well if you rush and massacre all the goats sure...and are very spesific character still, alsol putting them to sleep dont work for some reasons i just tested that even if sleep is a kind of stun i dont get it nothing, why? its stunned and otherwise unable to act and actualy would of given atleast more options Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 you know what be cool? instead of only the red knight armour how about having all 4 colours depending wich of the knights died last? so you can actualy have all 4 knights (and unique stage play for that matter) 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Easy answer, they are fully machine, WX78 is not & never was, WX78 has a soul, and therefore what short circuits a full machine, gives power to a spirit inhabiting a machine. They are litterally dubbed the soulless automaton 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 hours ago, wormwood123 said: They are litterally dubbed the soulless automaton Wortox can confirm. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viblym Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 12 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Easy answer, they are fully machine, WX78 is not & never was, WX78 has a soul, and therefore what short circuits a full machine, gives power to a spirit inhabiting a machine. 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, viblym said: That’s just an ingame tag, animated shorts tell you a different story of not just a robot, but a robot that can recall memories of its previous human fleshy life. Besides, do we really need an in-game reason why electrical charges = good for WX & Bad for clockwork enemies? You ever added more electricity to a light bulb? They explode. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: That’s just an ingame tag, animated shorts tell you a different story of not just a robot, but a robot that can recall memories of its previous human fleshy life. Besides, do we really need an in-game reason why electrical charges = good for WX & Bad for clockwork enemies? You ever added more electricity to a light bulb? They explode. They literally don’t drop a soul when they die… it’s just the mind that’s been uploaded probably 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddocc Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 headcanon lighting gives temporal soul that is just transformed into energy by Wx also isn't Wx some advanced robot made not only by Wagstaff but by Wx itself. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggofroot Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 hours ago, wormwood123 said: They are litterally dubbed the soulless automaton 2 hours ago, wormwood123 said: They literally don’t drop a soul when they die… it’s just the mind that’s been uploaded probably 3 hours ago, Bumber64 said: Wortox can confirm. (i forgot what i was gonna say for this bc i just realized how wortox insults/taunts wx78 in almost all his quotes for examining them lol) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidankocherhans Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2026 at 8:39 AM, Echsrick said: no one makes electric weapons in the first place since there expensive Maybe they will now, this also gives more utility to the characters that come with it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushcircuit Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 20 hours ago, Draggofroot said: (i forgot what i was gonna say for this bc i just realized how wortox insults/taunts wx78 in almost all his quotes for examining them lol) i think he's just messing w them like he is in the other quotes yeah. in-game mechanics, they don't drop a soul, that's why they have the soulless tag - it is a tag that only exists for wortox's game mechanics (i.e. making sure Balloons and Chairs dont drop souls on "death" either) wortox CAN confirm but he wouldnt because he's awful and thinks it's funny 7 hours ago, aidankocherhans said: Maybe they will now, this also gives more utility to the characters that come with it they made morning stars repairable recently too, didn't they? i think it's cool they're giving players more incentive to utilize those weapons Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggofroot Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 24 minutes ago, crushcircuit said: i think he's just messing w them like he is in the other quotes yeah. in-game mechanics, they don't drop a soul, that's why they have the soulless tag - it is a tag that only exists for wortox's game mechanics (i.e. making sure Balloons and Chairs dont drop souls on "death" either) wortox CAN confirm but he wouldnt because he's awful and thinks it's funny they made morning stars repairable recently too, didn't they? i think it's cool they're giving players more incentive to utilize those weapons Honestly, i think them not dropping a soul is just a funny reference, otherwise WX has an actual skeleton who you are is stored in your brain, and what is a brain if not a fleshy computer? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushcircuit Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, Draggofroot said: Honestly, i think them not dropping a soul is just a funny reference, otherwise WX has an actual skeleton who you are is stored in your brain, and what is a brain if not a fleshy computer? i never said they're not the same person, but a soul isn't a brain; they used to be a human person and now theyre a robot person. robot people don't have souls also wx has a human skeleton the same way willow has a skeleton up her skirt, they're not a springtrap they're a GLaDOS Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggofroot Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, crushcircuit said: i never said they're not the same person, but a soul isn't a brain; they used to be a human person and now theyre a robot person. robot people don't have souls also wx has a human skeleton the same way willow has a skeleton up her skirt, they're not a springtrap they're a GLaDOS I never said that you said that theyre not the same person, and what im saying is if a soul is who you are and a brain is where who you are is stored, then the soul is probably stored in the brain, and when wx transfered bodies, the soul moved from the brain to the computer also i brought up the WX skeleton cuz i wanted to point out that some in game features probably shouldnt be taken litterally (example, wx not dropping a soul) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushcircuit Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Draggofroot said: also i brought up the WX skeleton cuz i wanted to point out that some in game features probably shouldnt be taken litterally (example, wx not dropping a soul) ooohhhh that makes sense 10 minutes ago, Draggofroot said: I never said that you said that theyre not the same person, and what im saying is if a soul is who you are and a brain is where who you are is stored, then the soul is probably stored in the brain, and when wx transfered bodies, the soul moved from the brain to the computer i know! i'm just saying that everybody mentioning that they don't have a soul is NOT saying that wx isn't a person or brainless or somesuch, it's just that we don't see souls as "who you are" in that way haha. i personally see them as a person's lifeforce, which robots don't really... have? not in the same way as a flesh person. I think wx's lack of a soul is more lore-significant than gameplay-significant, whereas skeletons are pretty important for getting bones and such - and everyone has funny things going on when they get struck by electricity, not just WX - but they specifically went out of their way to remove WX's soul, which is an exception that most everybody else doesn't have (with the exception of Webber, who drops two because the human AND the spider have their own souls. which i could see as an argument for them being a consciousness, i suppose, but then you'd have to ignore wx's exception and not webber's...) there's not really any way to know what souls ARE meant to be - wortox hasn't ever really said as such, and goes out of his way to make it more confusing - so it's entirely possible that both of us are wrong, but i do think arguing that they do have a soul is actively going against many different in-lore and in-game sources that say otherwise, so it does feel a little silly to say... Edited February 16 by crushcircuit 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/169787-game-update-712852/page/2/#findComment-1851636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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