yinjiu019 Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 What would she think of the farce you imposed on her? The other two are already good enough... What is the reason for the controversy? Her content really needs to be polished... It would be better if she disappeared from this update and was released separately in the subsequent updates. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 fine, remove wendy from this update and only focus on wortox and walter for the next week, and wendys skill tree will happen last once everyone else got there skill tree first Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1789864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, Echsrick said: fine, remove wendy from this update and only focus on wortox and walter for the next week, and wendys skill tree will happen last once everyone else got there skill tree first First klei needs to really do it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1789866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 That would be great I would perfer that and I think more of the wendy mains would perfer that. We are patient to have a good skilltree cohesive skilltree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1789878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koomin Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 1 hour ago, yinjiu019 said: What would she think of the farce you imposed on her? The other two are already good enough... What is the reason for the controversy? Her content really needs to be polished... It would be better if she disappeared from this update and was released separately in the subsequent updates. Thank you. In my opinion Wendy’s is way better than good enough, and she should be the one that is released in the current state. Release her update immediately and allow us to focus on the other two characters. Walter’s skill tree is legitimately halfway complete. Saying it is “good enough” is comical. Wortox feedback has not even been acknowledged and his name is barely even mentioned in updates since week one of the beta, and has tons of skills with huge problems or that do nothing. Release Wendy in the current state, her update is way beyond good enough, stop providing unbalanced care and favoritism towards this one character, and actually work on Walter and Wortox. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1789904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 3 minutes ago, Koomin said: Walter’s skill tree is legitimately halfway complete. Saying it is “good enough” is comical. They dont care, is arguing with people that have only eyes for Wendy and want everyone else to be the same, is already old. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1789907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 The way some people act I kinda wish they’d just make Wendy disappear from the game completely.. and that’s coming from someone who claims to be a Wendy Main. It’s just too much, it’s drug on and on and on.. people bully the developers when Wendy’s not this God Tier Titan Slayer & it’s getting old. In my Opinion Wendy actually needs FAIR & BALANCED Nerfs, but she should get some cool small (not OP) things here or there to compensate for hitting her with Nerfs.. But they’re not going to do any of that because any threads that even try to sensibly suggest nerfs to her get locked. But when you compare Wendy’s Skill Tree with other characters who already had gotten their skill trees, she’s getting way more then most of them COMBINED, yet people still aren’t satisfied and demand they work on her more more MORE *Maniacal Laughter Ensues* Point is: Wendy’s had more than enough tweaks and changes done to her, and we haven’t seen any new concepts or ideas brought up for Walter & Wortox… which honestly: Even as a Wendy Main makes me Mad because… Walter & Wortox need just as much depth as the keep piling onto Wendy, I read somewhere where Klei plans to consolidate some of Wobys Training badges down and also give her some new stuff she can do but… we haven’t seen any such update and I’m pretty sure it’s cause Wendy stole all the spotlight. I feel like pulling a Brady Bunch over here: Wendy Wendy Wendy… (it really is annoying & Walter/Wortox really does need more done for them.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1789947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinjiu019 Posted January 27, 2025 Author Share Posted January 27, 2025 8 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: The way some people act I kinda wish they’d just make Wendy disappear from the game completely.. and that’s coming from someone who claims to be a Wendy Main. It’s just too much, it’s drug on and on and on.. people bully the developers when Wendy’s not this God Tier Titan Slayer & it’s getting old. In my Opinion Wendy actually needs FAIR & BALANCED Nerfs, but she should get some cool small (not OP) things here or there to compensate for hitting her with Nerfs.. But they’re not going to do any of that because any threads that even try to sensibly suggest nerfs to her get locked. But when you compare Wendy’s Skill Tree with other characters who already had gotten their skill trees, she’s getting way more then most of them COMBINED, yet people still aren’t satisfied and demand they work on her more more MORE *Maniacal Laughter Ensues* Point is: Wendy’s had more than enough tweaks and changes done to her, and we haven’t seen any new concepts or ideas brought up for Walter & Wortox… which honestly: Even as a Wendy Main makes me Mad because… Walter & Wortox need just as much depth as the keep piling onto Wendy, I read somewhere where Klei plans to consolidate some of Wobys Training badges down and also give her some new stuff she can do but… we haven’t seen any such update and I’m pretty sure it’s cause Wendy stole all the spotlight. I feel like pulling a Brady Bunch over here: Wendy Wendy Wendy… (it really is annoying & Walter/Wortox really does need more done for them.) Are you intentionally trying to turn Klei's issues into a conflict for the community? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1790036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 10 hours ago, Koomin said: Wortox feedback has not even been acknowledged and his name is barely even mentioned in updates since week one of the beta, and has tons of skills with huge problems or that do nothing. Release Wendy in the current state, her update is way beyond good enough, stop providing unbalanced care and favoritism towards this one character, and actually work on Walter and Wortox. This seems like a strange logic, just like when you say, 'Why are all the people who come in the hospital sick, and why aren't those healthy people in the hospital?'. Of course, if Wortox is really 'sick', I hope you can actively provide suggestions, which is the most meaningful part of his skill tree 8 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Walter & Wortox need just as much depth as the keep piling onto Wendy, I read somewhere where Klei plans to consolidate some of Wobys Training badges down and also give her some new stuff she can do but… we haven’t seen any such update and I’m pretty sure it’s cause Wendy stole all the spotlight. A typical shift in conflict topics, completely ignoring reasonable demands and reasons, and completely ignoring KLei's own problems. If the person you mentioned can truly make KLei wholeheartedly serve players, then we should enter a stage where everyone is satisfied in the second testing update. In fact, it's just that KLei didn't fulfill his promise and didn't have enough ability to regulate team work, shifting responsibility to the person who made the suggestion. This behavior won't have a good outcome.. 8 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: In my Opinion Wendy actually needs FAIR & BALANCED Nerfs, but she should get some cool small (not OP) things here or there to compensate for hitting her with Nerfs.. But they’re not going to do any of that because any threads that even try to sensibly suggest nerfs to her get locked. At the same time, you intentionally generalize and try to see the efforts of those who have been making suggestions as worthless, as if only you hope Wendy can become better in the world. This demonization of others can only divide the player community. 8 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: The way some people act I kinda wish they’d just make Wendy disappear from the game completely.. and that’s coming from someone who claims to be a Wendy Main. It’s just too much, it’s drug on and on and on.. people bully the developers when Wendy’s not this God Tier Titan Slayer & it’s getting old. But when you compare Wendy’s Skill Tree with other characters who already had gotten their skill trees, she’s getting way more then most of them COMBINED, yet people still aren’t satisfied and demand they work on her more more MORE *Maniacal Laughter Ensues* Point is: Wendy’s had more than enough tweaks and changes done to her, and we haven’t seen any new concepts or ideas brought up for Walter & Wortox… which honestly: Even as a Wendy Main makes me Mad because… You keep saying that you are Wendy Main, but you end up speaking from KLei's perspective.Even willing to misinterpret others' well founded suggestions to reinforce your viewpoint KLei: We have taken advice out of context and done many things that go against the advice. Why are you not satisfied? "This doesn't mean anything at all. You are doing something that both wants praise and doesn't want to take responsibility for it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1790039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 10 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said: This seems like a strange logic, just like when you say, 'Why are all the people who come in the hospital sick, and why aren't those healthy people in the hospital?'. Of course, if Wortox is really 'sick', I hope you can actively provide suggestions, which is the most meaningful part of his skill tree Here are some general suggestions: 1.Try consolidating posts. Having 10 posts labeled "Sistern 3 issues:" that largely make the same points as each other clogs the forums, taking away visibility from issues with other characters. 2. Stay impartial. If someone has opposing views than yours don't take it personally and discuss counter points effectively while staying on topic. 3. Be empathetic. Put yourself in the shoes of the development team. At the end of the day they are people just like you and me. They have families, emotions and a life outside of this game. Insulting, demanding things and being outright rude to them solves nothing and wouldn't be something you'd like to experience. This isn't directly related to you but just general guidelines that allow all of us to be heard and better utilize the Beta forums. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1790044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 18 minutes ago, Y0sH said: Here are some general suggestions: 1.Try consolidating posts. Having 10 posts labeled "Sistern 3 issues:" that largely make the same points as each other clogs the forums, taking away visibility from issues with other characters. 2. Stay impartial. If someone has opposing views than yours don't take it personally and discuss counter points effectively while staying on topic. 3. Be empathetic. Put yourself in the shoes of the development team. At the end of the day they are people just like you and me. They have families, emotions and a life outside of this game. Insulting, demanding things and being outright rude to them solves nothing and wouldn't be something you'd like to experience. This isn't directly related to you but just general guidelines that allow all of us to be heard and better utilize the Beta forums. The following are opinions on these suggestions, not specific to individuals but only for suggestions 1. This seems to be a problem caused by the forum mechanism, as "integrating posts" does not seem to be a specific method suggestion, and I do not know how to implement this suggestion. If there could be a more detailed temporary zone, it would seem very useful. 2. I hope everyone knows 3. "Confucian Analects": Someone said, "To retake possession with kindness, what do you think of that?" The Master said, "With what then will you retake kindness? Requite possession with justice; retake kindness with kindness In short, giving empathy should be a response that also has empathy. If the development team does not empathize with the player's suggestions and instead makes the player feel uncomfortable. The empathy of the player towards the uncomfortable response given by the development team often cannot be replaced by the empathy of the development team. Only with a straightforward attitude can we respond to the pain brought by the development team Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163451-can-wendys-skill-tree-be-temporarily-removed/#findComment-1790049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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