Is Wendy too specialized?

[YouKnowWho142]

This is gonna be confusing unless I explain it. Wendy is extremely powerful in her ability to fight hordes, but her along with wendy struggles at basically everything else. What I'm worried about is that, since her ability to fight hordes is only becoming stronger, she's falling more and more into a specific niche where she is overwhelmingly and excessively strong at fighting hordes of enemies with little value outside of it. Most bosses hit so hard that even with healing elixirs wendy is basically forced to fight most bosses as a weaker wilson. Of course, I think it's okay for characters to be strong at one aspect and weak in another, that's a really important part of character balance and characters like wurt kinda suffer from the opposite where they dont really have a weakness which can make them uninteresting in their own right. However, I think Wendy may be a little polarizing, since she is overwhelming strong at hordes (at a point in dst's life where crowd control is becoming more and more common), while still being significantly weaker than other characters in almost every other area.

I know people love that Wendy is easy to play, and Abigail appeals to people who struggle with combat, but previous skill trees managed to retain new player friendly aspects while also adding new aspects to characters that would appeal to more experienced players (willow is a standout with bernie and her pyromancy respectively). I don't have a strong opinion either way, and I was curious what everyone had to say about it.

[Dingle]

She's really strong on bosses, too.

[YouKnowWho142]

Just now, Dingle said:

She's really strong on bosses, too.

I know, my concern is that the bosses that she's good against she is really strong at, while a lot of other bosses shut down abigail almost instantly. I didn't mean to imply that abigail is weak against every boss

[Dingle]

22 minutes ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

I know, my concern is that the bosses that she's good against she is really strong at, while a lot of other bosses shut down abigail almost instantly. I didn't mean to imply that abigail is weak against every boss

What bosses are you thinking of that shut down abigail fast?

[YouKnowWho142]

5 minutes ago, Dingle said:

What bosses are you thinking of that shut down abigail fast?

namely bosses with aoe attacks, especially celestial champion, twins, bearger, etc. I do know that some of the recent changes have significantly helped abigail against single target bosses that may sneak a hit onto abi now and then. I'm not sure just how potent the new changes have been with helping survivability in the aforementioned scenarios, but when I think of other characters that rely on summons/minions bernie has a high health pool and maxwell's puppets are spammy and take less damage from aoe. Personally, I feel as if wendy and abigail are two halves of a whole character, and should be able to take on battles together in the same way that maxwell's puppets and bernie are able to for their respective characters, but it feels really bad having abigail die at the start frequently and having to do a lot of bosses without a full character.

At the same  time though, against bosses like bee queen in particular, she can almost be an instant win at times, so it's really hard to just say "abigail should be buffed to be stronger against bosses" since it doesn't really account for the fact that bosses interact with her so differently. I'm still pretty mixed and obviously not the most qualified person to speak on wendy even if i did formerly main her, but i just generally want her to last throughout the fight in some manner, since abigail already trivializes a large portion of non-boss mobs (which was part of the point i was trying to make)

[Dingle]

11 minutes ago, YouKnowWho142 said:

namely bosses with aoe attacks, especially celestial champion, twins, bearger, etc. I do know that some of the recent changes have significantly helped abigail against single target bosses that may sneak a hit onto abi now and then. I'm not sure just how potent the new changes have been with helping survivability in the aforementioned scenarios, but when I think of other characters that rely on summons/minions bernie has a high health pool and maxwell's puppets are spammy and take less damage from aoe. Personally, I feel as if wendy and abigail are two halves of a whole character, and should be able to take on battles together in the same way that maxwell's puppets and bernie are able to for their respective characters, but it feels really bad having abigail die at the start frequently and having to do a lot of bosses without a full character.

At the same  time though, against bosses like bee queen in particular, she can almost be an instant win at times, so it's really hard to just say "abigail should be buffed to be stronger against bosses" since it doesn't really account for the fact that bosses interact with her so differently. I'm still pretty mixed and obviously not the most qualified person to speak on wendy even if i did formerly main her, but i just generally want her to last throughout the fight in some manner, since abigail already trivializes a large portion of non-boss mobs (which was part of the point i was trying to make)

She gets new stuff to help with even aoe bosses now! Team spirit commands, blessed sisturn 3.

The "escape" command even gives her temporary invincibility. You can use this to have her dodge bearger stomps as an example. Or use attack here to make her dash away from the aoe.

[Steorra]

1 hour ago, Dingle said:

She gets new stuff to help with even aoe bosses now! Team spirit commands, blessed sisturn 3.

I want to join this discussion since I found that I was never considered the twins because of personal reasons (I have no idea why should to kill them as Wendy, it seems unworthy, but it's for me personally.)

It seems Abi still have almost no benefit from the current trees when against the twins, they dashed fatally and they could easily kill Abi even with current tree I guess? It seems only team spirit would work here, but the long animation of the commands would makes Wendy fall into extremely dangerous situations considering the huge AoE effect of the dashing. Have you tried Lunar Abi for this particular twin bosses? I wonder what Lunar Abi would perform when fighting with the twins.

1 hour ago, Dingle said:

The "escape" command even gives her temporary invincibility.

And this is still need more improvement especially when considering the randomly latency in multiplayer worlds...