Mysterious box Posted January 26, 2025 Share Posted January 26, 2025 11 minutes ago, Steorra said: No. I hope you could accept different opinions and possibilities of misunderstanding. The situation is more like that someone keep claiming that "Wendy is strong" for preventing most potential improvement of Wendy's tree. Then I come with arguments for proving that both "Wendy is strong" and "everyone is strong with skill trees" are facts. Which means the balance topic which always talked as "strong or not strong" shouldn't does such matters to current beta. The function and fun is far more important before a balance issue has truly went in live. I'm assuming you're talking about a different thread but I'm talking about the claims made in this one. I'm able to accept different opinions when a proper argument is made but I can't do so if facts don't support them that being said as mentioned before when a blatant misrepresentation is made it greatly harms the discussion. For example if I said Wolfgang can barely beat a tree guard could you easily accept that I'm representing Wolfgang in good faith? 3 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said: If Abigail allows Wendy to have 90% defense, 15 face defense, 59.5 attack, 136 group attacks, 80 face correction, 129 health recovery points, and 240 warmth and cold protection at the same time. 70 waterproof, CD free can attack Shadow Creatures AOE, night vision, Far exceeding the speed and work efficiency of ordinary people. I would agree, hahaha. Sure we'd just have to delete Abigail and Wendy's other perks. The duration of course would be transferred to a idols. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1789611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted January 26, 2025 Share Posted January 26, 2025 5 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: but I can't do so if facts don't support them that being said as mentioned before when a blatant misrepresentation is made it greatly harms the discussion. For example if I said Wolfgang can barely beat a tree guard could you easily accept that I'm representing Wolfgang in good faith? Feel free to point out that what I've advocated makes you feel like it has went beyond the line and "it's bltant misrepresentation". I'd like to communicate with evidence and rational words a bit once I'm recovered from my exhaustedly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1789612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 26, 2025 Share Posted January 26, 2025 Just now, Steorra said: Feel free to point out that what I've advocated makes you feel like it has went beyond the line and "it's bltant misrepresentation". I'd like to communicate with evidence and rational words a bit once I'm recovered from my exhaustedly. I'll remind you that while you quoted me the initial points I made in this post weren't about what you said but what DaDa said. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1789613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted January 26, 2025 Share Posted January 26, 2025 But please remember that different players has different playstyle and their experience would never be same. It's reasonable that someone is not good at soul management and feels that "soul piercing of Wortox is not powerful". And it's same for someone who got infos of the newest strategy of soul piercing to think that "soul piercing is overpowered". 11 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I'm assuming you're talking about a different thread but I'm talking about the claims made in this one. I'm able to accept different opinions when a proper argument is made but I can't do so if facts don't support them that being said as mentioned before when a blatant misrepresentation is made it greatly harms the discussion. For example if I said Wolfgang can barely beat a tree guard could you easily accept that I'm representing Wolfgang in good faith? 6 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I'll remind you that while you quoted me the initial points I made in this post weren't about what you said but what DaDa said. Ok I'm sorry then it's a misunderstanding happened. I'm so tired and have few intention to join the argument you reclaimed just now. I quit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1789614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 26, 2025 Author Share Posted January 26, 2025 3 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: I'll remind you that while you quoted me the initial points I made in this post weren't about what you said but what DaDa said. You only slander from beginning to end, which makes me feel sad. You dare not even deny that Wendy and the current skill tree combined have weaker combat abilities than the moose. It's really ridiculous. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1789617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 26, 2025 Share Posted January 26, 2025 10 hours ago, Steorra said: So now, if the comparison was good for someone's veiw, it would be honest. But if not, it's dishonest. That's why the argument become endless and meaningless. You made this post perhaps ignoring that my point was 22 hours ago, DaDa_waw said: If you have really played Woodie, you wouldn't try to prove that Wendy has even a 10% advantage over Woody Exchanging 3 monster meats and 2 grasses for the ability to almost crush 90% of extreme environments for 7.2 minutes seems so weak to you, even though it's only 1/5 of Woodie's total ability, and Abigail only bullies spiders, it makes you feel incredibly powerful, it's really making your whole body tremble. Wendy's strength scares me! About this post or do you believe these claims were made in good faith? 3 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said: You only slander from beginning to end, which makes me feel sad. You dare not even deny that Wendy and the current skill tree combined have weaker combat abilities than the moose. It's really ridiculous. So your claim is that Wendy is inferior to the moose in every possible way and combat scenario? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1789619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 26, 2025 Author Share Posted January 26, 2025 47 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: About this post or do you believe these claims were made in good faith? Give back kindness with kindness, and respond to arrogance with ridicule. Before you expressed your ignorant views, everyone was harmonious, weren't they? I really don't know how we can be so pitiful to this point. There's no need for theoretical discussion, but endless slander 49 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: So your claim is that Wendy is inferior to the moose in every possible way and combat scenario? I'm afraid it's even worse than you imagine, after all, moose is only one-fifth of Woodie's functionality. You don't have an advantage when compared to one-fifth of the features, and Shuren has not yet joined the balance Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1789637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 The only real question remaining is if Woodie at 100% of his true power can beat Wolfgang faster than Wolfgang can beat Cursed Vexation Beefalo Wendy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1790015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 27, 2025 Author Share Posted January 27, 2025 2 hours ago, Bumber64 said: The only real question remaining is if Woodie at 100% of his true power can beat Wolfgang faster than Wolfgang can beat Cursed Vexation Beefalo Wendy. That's even more interesting. We'll do our best to weaken Wendy, even though she needs to do her best in the one-fifth Woodie battle now, and there are more than one character like Woodie. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1790037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted January 27, 2025 Share Posted January 27, 2025 1 hour ago, DaDa_waw said: That's even more interesting. We'll do our best to weaken Wendy, even though she needs to do her best in the one-fifth Woodie battle now, and there are more than one character like Woodie. The Wendy community and telling the truth must be bitter rivals. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1790052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 27, 2025 Author Share Posted January 27, 2025 29 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: The Wendy community and telling the truth must be bitter rivals. Defamation and box must be close friends Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1790062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaDa_waw Posted January 27, 2025 Author Share Posted January 27, 2025 It seems that many people are limited by their technical level and do not know how high the level of moose is, which has led to so many doubts about my words and made me start to reflect. You know, I can't find a boss that a real moose can't defeat on its own. And if it weren't for the boss, the moose would be even more powerful, after all, Shadow Creatures and Clockwork Chariots have no pressure on the moose, but they are dangerous for the control group. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163348-a-feeling-of-emotion-towards-the-current-situation/page/2/#findComment-1790143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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