RussoDaFederal Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 6 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said: I merely used the ending of slavery as a well-known example of a time humans collectively decided that doing the moral thing was more important than profit, because some people on the pro-AI side argue that never happens. Right, I agree that there are examples in history of this happening, but slavery wasn't abolished simply because it's unethical. Otherwise we wouldn't have cases of working conditions analogue to slavery to this day. There's a whole context behind it, but I won't get into too much detail because I think I'm already getting "too political" here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 3 hours ago, RussoDaFederal said: Right, I agree that there are examples in history of this happening, but slavery wasn't abolished simply because it's unethical. Otherwise we wouldn't have cases of working conditions analogue to slavery to this day. There's a whole context behind it, but I won't get into too much detail because I think I'm already getting "too political" here. Yep, slavery didn't get abolished because humans are concerned about morality. It got abolished because fast industrialization cut the need for that kind of labor and slaves had more value as free people. Couldn't normal chatgpt come up with this stuff if you give the right prompts? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 Just spend the $200 on a parrot. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 21 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: There is Ai that can easily detect cancers and stuff. Cool, but is detecting cancer worth more than the pollution it causes by requiring so much electricity. (im ignorant) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussoDaFederal Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 3 minutes ago, Evelo said: Cool, but is detecting cancer worth more than the pollution it causes by requiring so much electricity. (im ignorant) Yes it is. It doesn't require that much electricity. Not as much as other technology that pollutes the environment Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 57 minutes ago, RussoDaFederal said: It doesn't require that much electricity Oh, alright. Well that's good. I just know that AI systems like chatgpt consume a ton of electricity to run, but I think that is because of the servers required to host it. Like I said, im ignorant and have a lot to learn. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussoDaFederal Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 24 minutes ago, Evelo said: Oh, alright. Well that's good. I just know that AI systems like chatgpt consume a ton of electricity to run, but I think that is because of the servers required to host it. Like I said, im ignorant and have a lot to learn. It's ok, it's not something that we expect the general public to know. You're right in questioning it. And afaik you're also right about the servers, they consume way more electricity than the AI itself. For single purpose and offline AIs it won't cost more energy than what the computer is capable of. There's plenty of medical equipment that spends more electricity than a home computer, even a high end one. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 Considering how messed up DST community is with the lack of updates, TF2 community seem Übermensch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted January 17, 2025 Share Posted January 17, 2025 14 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said: Considering how messed up DST community is with the lack of updates, TF2 community seem Übermensch. Years of Copium have rendered TF2 players to be saints of patience. I'm still huffing it in hopes of one last update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted January 18, 2025 Share Posted January 18, 2025 On 1/15/2025 at 9:24 AM, loopuleasa said: Shared Grief: Increases Abigail’s damage or health the more Wendy stays near her. Ethereal Bond: Improves synergy with ghosts (faster summon, reduced sanity penalty). Vengeful Mourning: Boosts Wendy’s combat stats briefly after Abigail is summoned or perishes. Pensive Medium: Boosts her sanity when near ghostly entities or graves. All of these are straight trash lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted January 19, 2025 Share Posted January 19, 2025 Does Chat GPT have any ideas for an improved Wilson tree? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1786639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellHeater Posted January 22, 2025 Share Posted January 22, 2025 On 1/15/2025 at 6:56 PM, Echsrick said: i rather not use ai instead i use my brain i rather not use a wrench instead i tighten bolts using my hands I absolutely get what you mean though. It's just that AI is very useful to avoid some real tedious work and I disagree with the logic that it is bad at all times. Yes, it's never going to be a brain replacement. Let us have fun though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1787388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted January 22, 2025 Share Posted January 22, 2025 On 1/17/2025 at 5:31 PM, Evelo said: Cool, but is detecting cancer worth more than the pollution it causes by requiring so much electricity. (im ignorant) Then stop use it for worthless things like music. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1787442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted January 23, 2025 Share Posted January 23, 2025 On 1/15/2025 at 9:45 PM, DegenerateFurry said: Gonna be frank with you: you'd have spent that $200 better buying lottery tickets. I'VE PLAYED THESE SURVIVORS BEFORE! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1787583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 On 1/16/2025 at 10:48 AM, Evelo said: ALL That would mean…what, destroy all the AI for all the enemies in every game? My, never knew the forum are so keen on difficulty-less games On 1/18/2025 at 1:31 AM, Evelo said: Cool, but is detecting cancer worth more than the pollution it causes by requiring so much electricity. (im ignorant) Why electricity would be a problem…Electricity is cheap, even for industrial uses Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1787957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted January 24, 2025 Share Posted January 24, 2025 2 hours ago, YXukun said: Why electricity would be a problem…Electricity is cheap, even for industrial uses electricity production is a major contributor to greenhouse emissions. Considering we aren't fully renewable (and even if we are fully renewable there's still a lot of issues with mining for resources and the devastation that brings on ecostystems), AI, specifically the generator types produce a non-insignificant amount of greenhouse emissions. 3 hours ago, YXukun said: destroy all the AI for all the enemies in every game? fair point. AI by its literal definition is that, but i am referring mostly to the stuff that self teaches and grows and grows and grows. Endless growth is dangerous. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163150-what-the-new-200-chatgpt-suggests-for-wortox-walter-and-wendy-skilltrees/page/2/#findComment-1788234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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