Facing Ancient Guardian and Nightmare Werepig as Skill Tree Wendy

[Giovirtual79]

Let me know what you think. I had a lot more introspective about the skill tree after clearing this run, so I hope you all enjoy.

[Dingle]

Oh nice!

I'll slowly check this out. It will take me awhile to watch it, since my uninterrupted screen time is really low recently.

But I'm very curious to see what you did.

[Dingle]

Saw the whole thing!

That single vigor mortis on AG is always incredibly worth it.

I forgot that potions 3 made the mourning glory hat twice as good.

I think most of my Wendy runs would go bee queen, AG, nightmare werepig. The vex elixir is incredible.

I also mused that graves 1 isnt really necessary, as its very likely you can get a pipspook every time you visit a forest or mosaic, anyway. I also heard from someone that pipspook 1 had a hidden bonus feature: It makes pipspooks twice as likely to spawn off top of head. So 20% instead of 10%. Or maybe I'm getting this wrong and it was 15%.

[Yifei_]

26 minutes ago, Dingle said:

That single vigor mortis on AG is always incredibly worth it.

Vigor mortis is really useful in AG boss fight. But I actually hope that Team Spirits can somewhat replace vigor mortis in the AG boss battle, and I've found that the Escape and Attack commands can achieve this (not as effectively as vigor mortis, but they at least allow Abigail to participate in the boss fight and improve overall damage output efficiency). I prefer rushing to the ruins first, so that I can upgrade the Moon Caller Staff on Day 11. However, I often find that in the early days of the game, when I reach the graveyard area, I can't find pipspook, and thus can't make potions.

[Dingle]

3 minutes ago, Yifei_ said:

Vigor mortis is really useful in AG boss fight. But I actually hope that Team Spirits can somewhat replace vigor mortis in the AG boss battle, and I've found that the Escape and Attack commands can achieve this (not as effectively as vigor mortis, but they at least allow Abigail to participate in the boss fight and improve overall damage output efficiency). I prefer rushing to the ruins first, so that I can upgrade the Moon Caller Staff on Day 11. However, I often find that in the early days of the game, when I reach the graveyard area, I can't find pipspook, and thus can't make potions.

That's weird that you can't find pipspooks sometimes. Just really, really bad luck? Are you getting the pipspook perks?

Attack Here and Escape work against AG ok, just not as well. There's a link in the video description to a forum post here that explains how to do it without the aggro drop messing up the fight.

[Yifei_]

28 minutes ago, Dingle said:

That's weird that you can't find pipspooks sometimes. Just really, really bad luck? Are you getting the pipspook perks?

I usually pass through the graveyard area on the first or second day, and several times I’ve encountered the issue of not finding pipspook.

 

Edit: I checked the wiki and found that after spending a skill point on Pipspook, the probability of encountering it increases. It seems that I won't run into this problem as often in the future.

[Lee lol]

31 minutes ago, Yifei_ said:

I usually pass through the graveyard area on the first or second day, and several times I’ve encountered the issue of not finding pipspook.

Pipspook cannot be generated on the first day of the game. This seems to be absolute. It is some kind of program or code.

某个大佬说小惊吓就是没法在第一天生成，这是游戏代码规定的

 

7 hours ago, Giovirtual79 said:

Let me know what you think. I had a lot more introspective about the skill tree after clearing this run, so I hope you all enjoy.

Great job! Speed potion is really good for AG, and it's really cheap. It only needs a honey. As for the nightmare werepig, Wendy without a skill tree seems to be able to solve it easily though.

I think it seems faster not to tame beefalo if you just defeat AG and Nightmare Werepig .

[Yifei_]

15 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

Pipspook cannot be generated on the first day of the game. This seems to be absolute. It is some kind of program or code.

某个大佬说小惊吓就是没法在第一天生成，这是游戏代码规定的

Indeed, I just tested three worlds on the beta version, fully upgraded the Pipspook skill branch, and checked the graveyard areas in both the mosaic and forest terrains. I didn’t encounter any Pipspook on the first day.

确实，我刚刚在测试服中测试了三个世界，点满了小惊吓的技能分支。我在混合地形和森林地形的坟区都看过了，第一天没有遇到任何小惊吓。

[Dingle]

4 minutes ago, Yifei_ said:

Indeed, I just tested three worlds on the beta version, fully upgraded the Pipspook skill branch, and checked the graveyard areas in both the mosaic and forest terrains. I didn’t encounter any Pipspook on the first day.

确实，我刚刚在测试服中测试了三个世界，点满了小惊吓的技能分支。我在混合地形和森林地形的坟区都看过了，第一天没有遇到任何小惊吓。

Can you get pipspooks in the AG graveyard?

If so you could do one single step of their quest and get a vigor mortis if you bring a honey, maybe.

[Yifei_]

17 minutes ago, Dingle said:

Can you get pipspooks in the AG graveyard?

If so you could do one single step of their quest and get a vigor mortis if you bring a honey, maybe.

Does the toy still scatter in the maze after maxing out the pipspook skill? I haven't tried it yet, but I would be happy to do so if it doesn't.

 

It seems to be related to the specific map situation. However, since only one Morning Glory is needed, it should still be relatively easy to find.

[DegenerateFurry]

1 hour ago, Yifei_ said:

Vigor mortis is really useful in AG boss fight. But I actually hope that Team Spirits can somewhat replace vigor mortis in the AG boss battle, and I've found that the Escape and Attack commands can achieve this (not as effectively as vigor mortis, but they at least allow Abigail to participate in the boss fight and improve overall damage output efficiency). I prefer rushing to the ruins first, so that I can upgrade the Moon Caller Staff on Day 11. However, I often find that in the early days of the game, when I reach the graveyard area, I can't find pipspook, and thus can't make potions.

Team Spirit commands would work a lot better in the AG fight if there wasn't that weird behavior where Abigail doesn't attack for a second or two after dashing. 

[Lee lol]

6 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said:

if there wasn't that weird behavior where Abigail doesn't attack for a second or two after dashing. 

I didn't notice this. If this is true, it does affect the rhythm of the battle. Abi without a skill tree is also often in a daze in battle, if you don't anger her.

[Dingle]

1 hour ago, Yifei_ said:

Does the toy still scatter in the maze after maxing out the pipspook skill? I haven't tried it yet, but I would be happy to do so if it doesn't.

 

It seems to be related to the specific map situation. However, since only one Morning Glory is needed, it should still be relatively easy to find.

I haven't tried it yet, but yeah, I figure you just need the first toy. Then abandon right after.

[Giovirtual79]

12 hours ago, Dingle said:

Saw the whole thing!

That single vigor mortis on AG is always incredibly worth it.

I forgot that potions 3 made the mourning glory hat twice as good.

I think most of my Wendy runs would go bee queen, AG, nightmare werepig. The vex elixir is incredible.

I also mused that graves 1 isn't really necessary, as its very likely you can get a pipspook every time you visit a forest or mosaic, anyway. I also heard from someone that pipspook 1 had a hidden bonus feature: It makes pipspooks twice as likely to spawn off top of head. So 20% instead of 10%. Or maybe I'm getting this wrong and it was 15%.

Yeah, Potion 3 makes healing with the Wreath worth it, whereas I feel like you're better off not using it without it. For me, it really depends on whether I use Grave 1 or not. While I don't think it's necessary, I love the fact that the Bigspooks can be used for farms and reduce the cost of the Bee Queen fight tremendously. Honestly, I might compare the Mourning Glory gains with and without Pipspook 3 in order to come up with a final skill tree. Just know that I think I won't be running Sisturn 3 in the future.

11 hours ago, Lee lol said:

Pipspook cannot be generated on the first day of the game. This seems to be absolute. It is some kind of program or code.

Someone said that Little Scares cannot be generated on the first day. This is stipulated in the game code.

 

Great job! Speed potion is really good for AG, and it's really cheap. It only needs a honey. As for the nightmare werepig, Wendy without a skill tree seems to be able to solve it easily though.

I think it seems faster not to tame beefalo if you just defeat AG and Nightmare Werepig .

I'm sure it would be faster if I went to the caves without a Beefalo, but I always prefer having one opposed to not having one. Both because of the speed it provides and the fact that I can wear a Piggyback without the speed downside. It did work out in the end, I feel, as I got unlucky finding the ruins itself and it would've taken me much longer without it. However, I definitely could've done it faster if I just focused on the ruins after gathering the Mourning Glory.

11 hours ago, Dingle said:

Can you get pipspooks in the AG graveyard?

If so you could do one single step of their quest and get a vigor mortis if you bring a honey, maybe.

To my knowledge, they can appear. I dunno know about know, but I remember that being the case back then when I used to play this game pretty frequently.

I went back to check and, yes, they can spawn in the ruins

 

[Giovirtual79]

I also tried a hunt and it seems, with Pipspook 3, the toys try to stay in AG's arena area and won't enter the labyrinth itself

[Steorra]

3 minutes ago, Giovirtual79 said:

I also tried a hunt and it seems, with Pipspook 3, the toys try to stay in AG's arena area and won't enter the labyrinth itself

still have a chance in labyrinth 

[Giovirtual79]

3 minutes ago, Steorra said:

still have a chance in labyrinth 

There is still a chance, but the next toy appeared back into the area, so I think the game tries to keep the toys from spawning too deep into claustrophobic areas, especially if you have the Quest skills. Then it again, it's still up to chance

[Dingle]

1 hour ago, Giovirtual79 said:

Yeah, Potion 3 makes healing with the Wreath worth it, whereas I feel like you're better off not using it without it. For me, it really depends on whether I use Grave 1 or not. While I don't think it's necessary, I love the fact that the Bigspooks can be used for farms and reduce the cost of the Bee Queen fight tremendously. Honestly, I might compare the Mourning Glory gains with and without Pipspook 3 in order to come up with a final skill tree. Just know that I think I won't be running Sisturn 3 in the future.

I'm sure it would be faster if I went to the caves without a Beefalo, but I always prefer having one opposed to not having one. Both because of the speed it provides and the fact that I can wear a Piggyback without the speed downside. It did work out in the end, I feel, as I got unlucky finding the ruins itself and it would've taken me much longer without it. However, I definitely could've done it faster if I just focused on the ruins after gathering the Mourning Glory.

To my knowledge, they can appear. I dunno know about know, but I remember that being the case back then when I used to play this game pretty frequently.

I went back to check and, yes, they can spawn in the ruins

 

Pipspook 3 triples your mourning glory gains per quest, off top of head. While also making the quest easier and faster. While also making pipspooks spawn more reliably.

Probably the strongest use of 3 insight points. And up there for strongest use of 3 points in the entire roster.