blue fat Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 Wendy is a beginner-friendly character. With the updates of the game version, her survival ability has become weaker and weaker. Instead of increasing Abigail's damage to help those players who pursue the ultimate damage experience break their boss-killing records, we should enhance Abigail's survival ability so that most players will like her. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 Generally they won't nerf base amounts which out of the skill tree. The most possible way is to nerf Shadow Abi (Especially the Vex bonus from Shadow Sisterhood II; the Lunar Abi is still unusable so no need to talk about her). Well we all know that people don't like nerf, even for those veteran who feeling "survival enhancement of Abi" does no benefit to them. So there's another method: To buff damage of Shadow Abi a bit, or to make Vex enhancement from the elixir become permanent buff. However, as a price for the Wolfgang-like damage of Shadow Abi, adjust her survival to make her more vulnerable in average scenarios. i.e. to make shadow abi take extra damage when her form activated. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue fat Posted December 16, 2024 Author Share Posted December 16, 2024 59 minutes ago, Steorra said: Generally they won't nerf base amounts which out of the skill tree. The most possible way is to nerf Shadow Abi (Especially the Vex bonus from Shadow Sisterhood II; the Lunar Abi is still unusable so no need to talk about her). Well we all know that people don't like nerf, even for those veteran who feeling "survival enhancement of Abi" does no benefit to them. So there's another method: To buff damage of Shadow Abi a bit, or to make Vex enhancement from the elixir become permanent buff. However, as a price for the Wolfgang-like damage of Shadow Abi, adjust her survival to make her more vulnerable in average scenarios. i.e. to make shadow abi take extra damage when her form activated. Perhaps the Lunar Abigail could lose her damage ability but become invincible, allowing Abigail to fight alongside Wendy. it's very cool. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceMilk Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 I agree to weaken Abigail's damage and increase her survival ability. But skill trees are rarely adjusted through weakening methods, so it may be more reasonable to use this as a new form. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debruh Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 So, the lunar alignments? Because that's what they're trying to do Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 53 minutes ago, RiceMilk said: I agree to weaken Abigail's damage and increase her survival ability. But skill trees are rarely adjusted through weakening methods, so it may be more reasonable to use this as a new form. I now have a question - it seems those who continuously to say Maxwell is OP he need nerf AS WELL are just lying for their personal interest. Since they know that no skill tree would diminish any basic amounts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANZUN Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 I agree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceMilk Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 47 minutes ago, Steorra said: I now have a question - it seems those who continuously to say Maxwell is OP he need nerf AS WELL are just lying for their personal interest. Since they know that no skill tree would diminish any basic amounts. I understand what you mean, but at this stage we should not speculate on the motives of other players. Just discuss the problem itself. We need to make others understand that our suggestions are meant to make the game better, not just to support the characters we like. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoton123 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 Abigail should do 0 damage, and they remove the vex, but in return she can't be killed. She should also only produce light when she has been fed (give her rot or other food items). She should get new titles when you do things, like becoming "Scrappy Abigail" when you fight a lot. Also she should make extremely annoying and frequent sounds when she needs food. That way everyone would be able to enjoy fighting with abigail. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, RiceMilk said: I understand what you mean, but at this stage we should not speculate on the motives of other players. Just discuss the problem itself. We need to make others understand that our suggestions are meant to make the game better, not just to support the characters we like. I was thought like you earlier today, Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplan Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 Just now, hyoton123 said: Abigail should do 0 damage, and they remove the vex, but in return she can't be killed. She should also only produce light when she has been fed (give her rot or other food items). She should get new titles when you do things, like becoming "Scrappy Abigail" when you fight a lot. Also she should make extremely annoying and frequent sounds when she needs food. That way everyone would be able to enjoy fighting with abigail. if you insist Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 57 minutes ago, hyoton123 said: Abigail should do 0 damage, and they remove the vex, but in return she can't be killed. She should also only produce light when she has been fed (give her rot or other food items). She should get new titles when you do things, like becoming "Scrappy Abigail" when you fight a lot. Also she should make extremely annoying and frequent sounds when she needs food. That way everyone would be able to enjoy fighting with abigail. I agree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yifei_ Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 8 hours ago, hyoton123 said: Abigail should do 0 damage, and they remove the vex, but in return she can't be killed. She should also only produce light when she has been fed (give her rot or other food items). She should get new titles when you do things, like becoming "Scrappy Abigail" when you fight a lot. Also she should make extremely annoying and frequent sounds when she needs food. That way everyone would be able to enjoy fighting with abigail. Your brilliance is truly unmatched, I couldn’t agree more. The developers should definitely bring you on to design the game—no one else could possibly have better ideas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoton123 Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Yifei_ said: Your brilliance is truly unmatched, I couldn’t agree more. The developers should definitely bring you on to design the game—no one else could possibly have better ideas. I agree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1778878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrem Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 That's so funny x3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162533-i-think-abigails-damage-should-be-nerfed/#findComment-1779056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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