Community Disappointment at Wendy's Skill tree

[ShadyTooOP]

Wendy was and is always a fan favorite. Heck, even the most popular video on Klei's channel was the Wendy animation. Other people and I really anticipated Wendy's skill tree and I thought it would so cool. For example, Willow's and Wigfrid's skill trees are so unique and cool and offer new abilities and mechanics. That's what I and most other people wanted for Wendy, not just some stat boosts. Plus the skill tree for Wendy doesn't really offer any new mechanics; rather. it just improves on them. It feels really rushed. Compared with the skill trees of the previous characters mentioned, Wendy's skill tree is so underwhelming. I really hoped for something special. Wendy is the only character that can interact with the dead, so don't you think there should be something related to this? For example, Abigail could possess non-boss enemies and use their body to attack, or even possess Wendy herself and give her ethereal powers and abilities. Like, most of the upgrades are "extra mourning glory," "increased HP for Abigail," "Potions last longer," "Petals spoil slower," etc. A unique and cool addition or mechanic would go a long way, such as Willow's different abilities using embers. Abigail could also have an ink blight form to complement the Gestalt form in the other affinity. Abigail could also call upon the dead for aid, since the whole main thing about Wendy is her connection to the dead (and that main idea of Wendy isn't really being shown here).

Overall I feel like Wendy, one of the most beloved characters, wasn't shown her potential with the skill tree. Others might argue that she doesn't need a skill tree since she was already OP, but did Wigfrid need one? No, Wigfrid was already OP too and still got a really cool skill tree. Like come on guys, this is the ONLY character that has connection to the dead people, and potentially nightmare creatures and gestalts. I hope and believe that Klei will remedy this and listen to all our ideas. I am really hopeful that the team can fix this and make Wendy a really cool character. I hope that the community will be happy with the reworked skill tree of Wendy when Klei reworks it.

[Lee lol]

Wendy still has great potential in her skill tree.

[layangan putus]

The beta tools do improve the quality of the fight together with Abi which I finally beat DF together with base Abigail no beef & cheese, thanks to the combo of "Attack At & Panflute". It's just that tricky timing of "Attack At" to quickly move my cursor to the edge of the screen during 1st phase of CC & also 0.5 sec delay when Wendy whispered "Escape" always got me hit by 3rd phase of CC tri-laser. Need more tests against Wendy weak match-ups, so far the worst match-up is Enraged Klaus but luckily it's optional - I wish Abi had single target damage with range like Wanda's clock or maybe latched to the foe to confuse/scare it for free hits or simply just did visual manifesting with Wendy to do Stand. She really does have potential to be the coolest character in the game, I hope the dev team could come up with something special before the Christmas break is finally over.

[layangan putus]

24 minutes ago, Deactive41year said:

willow's tree needs to be reworked a little.

such as embers (+hungry lighter), ignite and combustion becoming base kit, but with some nerfs to them (spells burn for less time and embers only having a 50% chance to drop from bees and spiders. 

As for now, you need at least survive for 10 days to then spend 3 Insight for combustion. If spells burn for less time, Willow needs to burn more and will lose a bit of dps during burning frenzy.

[SpookyXy]

Willow's skill tree is an outlier, she was a dogwater character before it, so she got a ton of stuff to give people a reason to play the her. Wendy's tree is more in line with every other character, buffs, tweaks, qol and new mechanics in her grave and wreath crafts and different Abby forms. Wendy got a fair amount of stuff, it's just some of the numbers are still undertuned.

[Reiko24]

If you think it adds no new mechanics, then there is nothing to talk about.

[hyoton123]

I would not say that wig’s tree exactly offers a lot of new mechanics. 

 

Been wondering this a while since i havent touched willow in a year or two, are peoples” obsession with willow’s skilltree over combustion and lunar flames, or is it the burn damage as well?

[Grove]

4 hours ago, ShadyTooOP said:

Abigail could also have an ink blight form to complement the Gestalt form in the other affinity. 

So one affinity makes Abby an inkblight and the other makes her a gestalt? So og Abby goes where exactly? The whole point of the shadow alignment needing animal sacrifice is as a call back to original roots of Wendy, changing it so that it also changes Abby is pretty weird.

 

4 hours ago, ShadyTooOP said:

Abigail could also call upon the dead for aid, since the whole main thing about Wendy is her connection to the dead (and that main idea of Wendy isn't really being shown here).

Nope, whole thing about Wendy is Abby. Everything, from her downsides to her crafts to pipspooks and such are all balanced about Abby. Not ghosts. Even her lore.

Webber and Wurt already have factions that they rely on, both executed in different ways. Wendy has her own thing

4 hours ago, ShadyTooOP said:

Willow's and Wigfrid's skill trees

Yea, I don't think anybody thought Wendy is gonna get anything like Willow. That was a whole rework. Wigfrid's was like Wormwood's, and Woodie's. Which Wendy is also like. Upgrading the already present kit, while adding a bit of new stuff plus some flavour skills

 

18 minutes ago, Reiko24 said:

If you think it adds no new mechanics, then there is nothing to talk about

30 minutes ago, PunkShark said:

Blah blah blah Willow had very little to begin with while wendy blah blah blah
good character blah blah blah

I should probably be more like these two

[Reiko24]

2 hours ago, Debruh said:

I should probably be more like these two

I was like you when the beta began but after some arguing and talking I just got tired. Really just want this to be over.

[Koomin]

At this point I think a lot of the community is more disappointed that Wendy has gotten by far enough time and attention for an already very strong and interesting skill tree and is taking away attention from other characters and further game developement because people keep demanding the character be made stronger and stronger.

[Reiko24]

Just now, Koomin said:

At this point I think a lot of the community is more disappointed that Wendy has gotten by far enough time and attention for an already very strong and interesting skill tree and is taking away attention from other characters and further game developement because people keep demanding the character be made stronger and stronger.

Not only that, I could agree that the skilltree was mediocre before, but now it's really cool. But they are never satisfied. If they stopped after the latest update it would really not pose any problems anymore. But they will never stop, even when Klei redoes the skilltree entirely, they will still have things to complain about. 

[Mr Giggio]

2 hours ago, Reiko24 said:

If you think it adds no new mechanics, then there is nothing to talk about.

Exactly. The "Attack here" button opens so much possibility in fights and farming with the graveyards in full moon, not counting the damage spike and even allowing Wendy to drink the potions herself which for me is already too much and Im like "ok what this  guys are doing before posting it they really tried the same beta I did?". So. Much. Whining.

[Dingle]

2 hours ago, Mr Giggio said:

Exactly. The "Attack here" button opens so much possibility in fights and farming with the graveyards in full moon, not counting the damage spike and even allowing Wendy to drink the potions herself which for me is already too much and Im like "ok what this  guys are doing before posting it they really tried the same beta I did?". So. Much. Whining.

Spoilers: They're mostly not even playing the beta. It's become really obvious.