I hate doing pipspooks quest repeatedly.

[DaDa_waw]

18 minutes ago, Debruh said:

Wendy can also easily do the same via setting Abby to aggressive.

Graves already naturally spawn near spider dens in forests. So set Abby to aggressive there for spider materials. And pigmen houses can also spawn there for the occasional big meat and pigskin.

Some forests also have small beefalo savannahs, which graves can spawn on the edge of, nearby for wool and meat. Sometimes toys of pipspooks from mosiac graveyard can spawn near tallbirds. Abby can kill tallbirds with the scare command. And beef can have the scare command used on them, and shadow Abby can solo a small herd of beef at daytime, with a shield elixir for safety.

You can also relocate graves to bee biomes for bee materials and other places for whatever you want while farming pipspooks.

There's also twigs, grass, and berries that can harvested. Pipspooks can be slower than you on a beef, and probably on a walking cane too, so you can do so while they catch up. This can be done while Abby is fighting other mobs. Meaning you can get mourning glory, twigs, grass, berries, and whatever Abby is killing at the same time.

That's a lot more materials than Willow and Wortox can get. Aside from spiders and bees, other creatures aren't really that good to farm.

Bosses aren't a good source of embers, as they drop 7 or 8 embers. Shadow flames and lunar flames are both 5 embers. Just two casts make this a loss. You can obtain them, sure. But you're losing materials if anything.

Webber's spider wars take time. There's also always the potential of his good spiders dying in spider wars, meaning that he has two have a place for good spiders, and another for farming. He can't really get spiders furing spider wars, as they will often engage in the war.

Maxwell can't really farm rabbits or bunnymen for nightmare fuel anymore due to the rabbit king. His best bets are shadow splumonkeys, which means he will have to go to the ruins, or just normal inefficient nightmares.

The technique you mention is good for obtaining nightmare fuel mid boss fight. But it's risky, and can even be not rewarding in some fights. If shadow fights are killed too quickly, Max has to replace them quickly as well as cage the boss.

You will usually get only two papyrus per boss. Which isn't that good. Wicker will usually craft a lot of books and libraries. Books that farm twigs, grass, and trees. Books that farm eatable food. Books on lunar island for a krampus sack farm. Etc. Eventually it's over but it will take a while.

Wendy also usually uses less mourning glory, than these characters do their own stuff. She also can store her resource in backpacks and on the ground, unlike Willow and Wortox

The Wendy related content you mentioned earlier seems to make me feel like you haven't done much pipspoos missions, and their feasibility is much lower than you imagine.
And the part about Vila makes me feel strange, don't you know that Vila won't burn the spoils of war?
The Maxwell part is even more eerie, don't you know that after the Rabbit King dies once, he will enter a 300s cooldown. Using the Shadow Cage once can trap the Rabbit Man to guard for 24 seconds. The Rabbit King is just a fish on the chopping board. I don't understand if this can be considered a difficulty?
Obtaining Nightmare Fuel during battles with bosses is an absolute positive benefit, and you can also use Despair Stone equipment to achieve near perpetual defense.
Even if Weber's spider dies, there are still falling objects. I hope you remember.
I only want to tell you that there is this drawing scheme, and it is very practical. When you need so much content, you will naturally have so much reserve.
As for the last paragraph, I think you're starting to digress.

[Echsrick]

i think someone tries to sell there character much lower then that character actualy is

[Koomin]

7 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

i think someone tries to sell there character much lower then that character actualy is

Yea this is pretty baffling.  Just do like 3 quests at the start of the game.  It takes about 3 minutes and you have enough for hours and hours of game time.  If you really hate the quests just take the skills and you can effectively ignore them.  If you enjoy the quests and want to do them more, don't take the skills.

The whole Willow and Wortox argument doesn't really make any sense either.

[Yaorin yon]

4 minutes ago, Koomin said:

Yea this is pretty baffling.  Just do like 3 quests at the start of the game.  It takes about 3 minutes and you have enough for hours and hours of game time.  If you really hate the quests just take the skills and you can effectively ignore them.  If you enjoy the quests and want to do them more, don't take the skills.

The whole Willow and Wortox argument doesn't really make any sense either.

Is it unacceptable to point out an unreasonable design for a character? Or is it just that you can't stand people who like this character? I suspect that some people neither care about unreasonable content nor want the person using this role to demand improvement.

[Debruh]

16 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

The Wendy related content you mentioned earlier seems to make me feel like you haven't done much pipspoos missions, and their feasibility is much lower than you imagine.
And the part about Vila makes me feel strange, don't you know that Vila won't burn the spoils of war?
The Maxwell part is even more eerie, don't you know that after the Rabbit King dies once, he will enter a 300s cooldown. Using the Shadow Cage once can trap the Rabbit Man to guard for 24 seconds. The Rabbit King is just a fish on the chopping board. I don't understand if this can be considered a difficulty?
Obtaining Nightmare Fuel during battles with bosses is an absolute positive benefit, and you can also use Despair Stone equipment to achieve near perpetual defense.
Even if Weber's spider dies, there are still falling objects. I hope you remember.
I only want to tell you that there is this drawing scheme, and it is very

36 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

only want to tell you that there is this drawing scheme, and it is very practical. When you need so much content, you will naturally have so much reserve.
As for the last paragraph, I think you're starting to digress.

I have lol. They're very rewarding with tue pipspook skill tree.

Willow doesn't burn drops yes. But I'm referring to embers. Bosses drop 7 or 8 embers. Meaning that Willow doesn't gain embers but loses them. As she will usually use more than 7 or 8 during boss fights. Bosses aren't good sources of embers.

The rabbit king is still an inconvenience. That makes rabbits not that good to farm. If you do kill it, it can spawn again in 5 minutes.

Some bosses that have minions, such as beequee. And others have aoe damage. One requires lots of shadow cages, the other requires lots of duelists to spawn. Both 1) lead to a lot of nightmare fuel consumption. 2) Require a lot of casting. Making fighting nightmare creatures both impractical and not really efficient.

31 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

if Weber's spider dies, there are still falling objects. I hope you remember.

You mean their drops??? I'm assuming you're referring to me saying that Webber's spider wars can cause his good spiders to die.

Do you think I'm referring to normal spiders by saying 'good spiders'? I'm referring to nurses, spitters, etc. Which should be fairly obvious. A dead spider drops one of either spidergland, monster meat, or silk. Every switcherdoodle takes at least one monster meat and one silk, with better ones being more. Even the worst one will require ateast two spider drops as well as the other material. And if the spider doesn't drop monster meat, you won't even be able to replace it via befriending. This isn't a point at all.

37 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

only want to tell you that there is this drawing scheme, and it is very practical. When you need so much content, you will naturally have so much reserve.
As for the last paragraph, I think you're starting to digress.

No idea what the first part means. As for the second part, no absolutely not.

Storage is a part of collection. As it allows you to save. Willow can get a ton of embers, but it's all useless to her if it exceeds the free space in her inventory. Embers will disappear 

Wortox needs jars if he wants more than 20.

Even Webber's monster meat rots, and gets eaten by his own minions.

Meanwhile Wendy can collect to her heart's content. And can drop it on the ground to get it later.

[Koomin]

1 minute ago, Yaorin yon said:

Is it unacceptable to point out an unreasonable design for a character? Or is it just that you can't stand people who like this character? I suspect that some people neither care about unreasonable content nor want the person using this role to demand improvement.

What?  I myself like the character.  Why would I not like myself?

[Yaorin yon]

2 minutes ago, Koomin said:

What?  I myself like the character.  Why would I not like myself?

I feel that many people hold opposing views towards the other party striving for common good modifications, even though they both like the same character, which makes people feel very mysterious.

[Koomin]

1 minute ago, Yaorin yon said:

I feel that many people hold opposing views towards the other party striving for common good modifications, even though they both like the same character, which makes people feel very mysterious.

This is really not mysterious.  People have different opinions and different experiences.  People have different visions for how something they like should be.  That is just the normal way things work, and disagreement is not particularly surprising even if everyone involved likes the character.

[Yaorin yon]

9 minutes ago, Koomin said:

This is really not mysterious.  People have different opinions and different experiences.  People have different visions for how something they like should be.  That is just the normal way things work, and disagreement is not particularly surprising even if everyone involved likes the character.

Divergent thoughts are certainly not surprising, but opposing behavior is quite strange. You all like the same thing, and one person wants to make one part better, but that doesn't mean destroying the other, just adding something new. Why do we have to constantly oppose this?

[Debruh]

2 hours ago, DaDa_waw said:

for the last one, in fact, other characters can be faster without consuming skill points, so I don't want to discuss it too much. ;(

Didn't see this. But Wortox is limited to 20 souls without skills, and Willow doesn't even have embers without them

With skills, Willow needs two to even get embers. Which still leaves her having to set stuff on fire manually, making her much slower than Wendy with pipspook | and ||.

To actually farm embers well, she needs combustion, so 3 insight. Which is the full pipspook tree. So yea, Wendy is faster than Willow.

Wortox's soul jar needs two insigjt points. And that's without any aoe

19 minutes ago, Yaorin yon said:

Divergent thoughts are certainly not surprising, but opposing behavior is quite strange. You all like the same thing, and one person wants to make one part better, but that doesn't mean destroying the other, just adding something new. Why do we have to constantly oppose this?

If something is criticized wrongly. For example, saying that the pipspook quest is hard, takes time, not rewarding, and can't be done with other tasks, which is all wrong.

It will lead to the wrong parts of the quest getting addressed. As well as even getting overbuffed, which leads to the character being boring.

Wendy isn't worse at collecting mourning glory than other characters are at collecting the materials they need. If anything, she's better, faster, uses less of the material, and can store it better.

The problem is, that the collection is stale and boring. It doesn't have much variety. And usually stays the same.

I personally don't mind the quest,  could even say that I like it. But if it were to change, I would rather the actually bad and boring parts to change. Not for the quest to just get buffed a ton

[DaDa_waw]

28 minutes ago, Debruh said:

Willow doesn't burn drops yes. But I'm referring to embers. Bosses drop 7 or 8 embers. Meaning that Willow doesn't gain embers but loses them. As she will usually use more than 7 or 8 during boss fights. Bosses aren't good sources of embers.

Of course, if you want to point out that the total amount of obtaining embers has decreased, I can only tell you that I specifically mentioned "bosses with summoning characteristics", such as the queen bee that everyone is longing for. And Votox is even more flamboyant, he can replenish a huge number of souls in the battles of Ancient Fuelweavers.

30 minutes ago, Debruh said:

The rabbit king is still an inconvenience. That makes rabbits not that good to farm. If you do kill it, it can spawn again in 5 minutes.

This part has already made me tired, it's more of a helplessness, like telling me not to eat fish because I have to spit out thorns when eating fish.

 

32 minutes ago, Debruh said:

Some bosses that have minions, such as beequee. And others have aoe damage. One requires lots of shadow cages, the other requires lots of duelists to spawn. Both 1) lead to a lot of nightmare fuel consumption. 2) Require a lot of casting. Making fighting nightmare creatures both impractical and not really efficient.

I got this gameplay a long time ago from a video demonstration of Maxwell's Nightmare Free Fuel Reserve killing queen bees. If you really don't believe in its feasibility, I can send it to you.

 

37 minutes ago, Debruh said:

 

You mean their drops??? I'm assuming you're referring to me saying that Webber's spider wars can cause his good spiders to die.

Do you think I'm referring to normal spiders by saying 'good spiders'? I'm referring to nurses, spitters, etc. Which should be fairly obvious. A dead spider drops one of either spidergland, monster meat, or silk. Every switcherdoodle takes at least one monster meat and one silk, with better ones being more. Even the worst one will require ateast two spider drops as well as the other material. And if the spider doesn't drop monster meat, you won't even be able to replace it via befriending. This isn't a point at all.

No idea what the first part means. As for the second part, no absolutely not.

Storage is a part of collection. As it allows you to save. Willow can get a ton of embers, but it's all useless to her if it exceeds the free space in her inventory. Embers will disappear 

Wortox needs jars if he wants more than 20.

Even Webber's monster meat rots, and gets eaten by his own minions.

Meanwhile Wendy can collect to her heart's content. And can drop it on the ground to get it later.

If you can really make the key spider die, I think that's your problem. I actually feel a cognitive gap in the level of gaming during communication, which makes me tired of communication.

17 minutes ago, Debruh said:

Didn't see this. But Wortox is limited to 20 souls without skills, and Willow doesn't even have embers without them

With skill, Willow needs two to even get embers. Which still leaves here having to set stuff on fire manually, making her much slower than Wendy with pipspook | and ||.

To actually farm embers well, she needs combustion, so 3 insight. Which is the full pipspook tree. So yea, Wendy is faster than Willow.

Wortox's soul jar needs two insigjt points. And that's without any aoe

Especially this proves that you didn't understand the main point I was expressing from the beginning. Yeah, Wendy spent 3 skill points to only increase the pipsprook task, so what? Why don't others need to increase their skill points at all? The functions of those skill points are very interesting, and collecting special items is just an additional function. Why do you prefer the former so much?
As the previous person said, I advocate making these skill points more functional rather than simply increasing production, which lacks sincerity and design sense. What is the driving force behind your persistent opposition? Competitive spirit? Or a sense of honor? I don't quite understand.

[Echsrick]

7 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

Especially this proves that you didn't understand the main point I was expressing from the beginning. Yeah, Wendy spent 3 skill points to only increase the pipsprook task, so what? Why don't others need to increase their skill points at all?

i think it only tells me you have no idea what you even yapping about, again, wortox on his own has no way to get 100 of souls instandly, willow litteraly NEEDS to invest to be able to get ambers, but wendy has it base kit, and the skills make get it even faster then before, wich the others do not, not only that, you get so much with that skill maxed out you probably dont even need to do it more then twice at best

[DaDa_waw]

6 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

i think it only tells me you have no idea what you even yapping about, again, wortox on his own has no way to get 100 of souls instandly, willow litteraly NEEDS to invest to be able to get ambers, but wendy has it base kit, and the skills make get it even faster then before, wich the others do not, not only that, you get so much with that skill maxed out you probably dont even need to do it more then twice at best

So, proving that you have won the brain teaser, that's all? Turning boring things into occasional boring things is the whole content of the pipsprook skill tree. Persisting in it is meaningless.

[Debruh]

1 minute ago, DaDa_waw said:

bosses with summoning characteristics", such as the queen bee that everyone is longing for. And Votox is even more flamboyant, he can replenish a huge number of souls in the battles of Ancient Fuelweavers.

Willow point is fair, my bad. Thought you meant you could summon a ton of bosses. Or something.

As for wortox, that's one boss. That's locked behind both ancient guardian and shadow pieces.

Ancient guardian having graves near him for mourning glory doesn't mean that Wendy can collect mourning glory mid boss fights. Just one fight.

3 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

This part has already made me tired, it's more of a helplessness, like telling me not to eat fish because I have to spit out thorns when eating fish.

 

Snide remarks, really?

Not really. Rabbit king is an inconvenience. Farm splumonkeys or normal nightmares as Maxwell. They're much better.

Helplessness is acting like you can't pick twigs and such, or click two buttons to set Abby to aggressive, while just walking around with a pipspook.

4 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

got this gameplay a long time ago from a video demonstration of Maxwell's Nightmare Free Fuel Reserve killing queen bees. If you really don't believe in its feasibility, I can send it to you.

I can't watch bibbli, or whatever its name is, videos for some reason. Probably my country blocking it. (They did something that somehow blocked among us too)

I didn't say it's impossible, just pretty hard and inconvenient.

11 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

If you can really make the key spider die, I think that's your problem. I actually feel a cognitive gap in the level of gaming during communication, which makes me tired of communication.

I said that Webber's spider wars take time. You said that they can help in recruiting spiders. I responded saying that you can't recruit your spiders during it as they will join the war and die. Then you mistook what I said for 'normal spiders will die'

Glad we agree on 'don't recruit important spiders during spider wars.' And since those take time, you have to wait to recruit spiders.

[Yaorin yon]

36 minutes ago, Debruh said:

Didn't see this. But Wortox is limited to 20 souls without skills, and Willow doesn't even have embers without them

With skills, Willow needs two to even get embers. Which still leaves her having to set stuff on fire manually, making her much slower than Wendy with pipspook | and ||.

To actually farm embers well, she needs combustion, so 3 insight. Which is the full pipspook tree. So yea, Wendy is faster than Willow.

Wortox's soul jar needs two insigjt points. And that's without any aoe

If something is criticized wrongly. For example, saying that the pipspook quest is hard, takes time, not rewarding, and can't be done with other tasks, which is all wrong.

It will lead to the wrong parts of the quest getting addressed. As well as even getting overbuffed, which leads to the character being boring.

Wendy isn't worse at collecting mourning glory than other characters are at collecting the materials they need. If anything, she's better, faster, uses less of the material, and can store it better.

The problem is, that the collection is stale and boring. It doesn't have much variety. And usually stays the same.

I personally don't mind the quest,  could even say that I like it. But if it were to change, I would rather the actually bad and boring parts to change. Not for the quest to just get buffed a ton

It actually looks like a meaningless internal friction, as no one has ever said that this task needs to be deleted from the beginning, it is just mentioned that more ways are needed.

[Debruh]

19 minutes ago, DaDa_waw said:

Of course, if you want to point out that the total amount of obtaining embers has decreased, I can only tell you that I specifically mentioned "bosses with summoning characteristics", such as the queen bee that everyone is longing for. And Votox is even more flamboyant, he can replenish a huge number of souls in the battles of Ancient Fuelweavers.

This part has already made me tired, it's more of a helplessness, like telling me not to eat fish because I have to spit out thorns when eating fish.

 

I got this gameplay a long time ago from a video demonstration of Maxwell's Nightmare Free Fuel Reserve killing queen bees. If you really don't believe in its feasibility, I can send it to you.

 

If you can really make the key spider die, I think that's your problem. I actually feel a cognitive gap in the level of gaming during communication, which makes me tired of communication.

Especially this proves that you didn't understand the main point I was expressing from the beginning. Yeah, Wendy spent 3 skill points to only increase the pipsprook task, so what? Why don't others need to increase their skill points at all? The functions of those skill points are very interesting, and collecting special items is just an additional function. Why do you prefer the former so much?
As the previous person said, I advocate making these skill points more functional rather than simply increasing production, which lacks sincerity and design sense. What is the driving force behind your persistent opposition? Competitive spirit? Or a sense of honor? I don't quite understand.

And I literally agreed with you that pipspooks could be more interesting.

This conversation was about you saying that they can't be connected to other tasks. Then that went into a time thing with your response.

1 minute ago, Yaorin yon said:

It actually looks like a meaningless internal friction, as no one has ever said that this task needs to be deleted from the beginning, it is just mentioned that more ways are needed.

I never said people said that the task needed to be deleted? I said that criticizing it wrongly, and pointing out non-existent flaws will lead to the wrongs part of it being changed

[DaDa_waw]

5 minutes ago, Debruh said:

And I literally agreed with you that pipspooks could be more interesting.

This conversation was about you saying that they can't be connected to other tasks. Then that went into a time thing with your response.

If it's just this paragraph, my expression in this regard may have been inappropriate. I'm very sorry（
To be honest, in my area, this time period is very, very unhealthy, which makes me very tired. The reason why I stayed up so late is to wait for KLei to provide update logs to make me feel like they are solving the problem, but currently it seems like I have to wait（

16 minutes ago, Debruh said:

This conversation was about you saying that they can't be connected to other tasks. Then that went into a time thing with your response.

What I want to express about this is that pipsprooks is a completely independent task system from life, and healthy design should be integrated into life. The continuous entanglement in this definition makes people feel exhausted.
An easy to understand example is that the normal flavor of a burger is when there is a unique flavor inside the burger, rather than me taking a bite of the burger and then eating another dish, pretending to be eating a different flavor of burger.

[Yaorin yon]

30 minutes ago, Debruh said:

And I literally agreed with you that pipspooks could be more interesting.

This conversation was about you saying that they can't be connected to other tasks. Then that went into a time thing with your response.

I never said people said that the task needed to be deleted? I said that criticizing it wrongly, and pointing out non-existent flaws will lead to the wrongs part of it being changed

Your statement shows that you like this task, which seems more persuasive than other content in your insistence on dialogue. The others seem a bit nitpicking, focusing too much on the small contradictions in the overall good viewpoint, which I don't think is beneficial for improvement.

[Echsrick]

well i think pipspooks are fine as is, its a simple special thing for a character, that whole mob only exists for wendy, anyone else has no use for it and it still spawns for them anyways, they could use it to become insane wich there better ways for, and pipspook can possible lead you to interesting places on new worlds, you could for example find skeletons and there loot, and if its in a forest then you can let abigal fight spiders and the ocasional pig while you do the pipspook part, and the skill tree improove on it alot

[SilverSpoon]

"Do you hate doing pipspooks quest repeatedly?"

"Yes, so I hope some alternative way."
"No, I don't mind."

I think there is no reason for the two above to fight. Who don't like doing the pipspooks quest repeatedly, they are not saying rid it.

[Koomin]

1 minute ago, SilverSpoon said:

"Do you hate doing pipspooks quest repeatedly?"

"Yes, so I hope some alternative way."
"No, I don't mind."

I think there is no reason for the two above to fight. Who don't like doing the pipspooks quest repeatedly, they are not saying rid it.

I would enjoy an alternate way or the quests being made more interesting, just as long as the alternate way is not something that just automatically generates them.

[SilverSpoon]

14 minutes ago, Koomin said:

I would enjoy an alternate way or the quests being made more interesting, just as long as the alternate way is not something that just automatically generates them.

I can't understand why who like Pipspook Quest must against the alternate way what something that just automatically generates. I don't think it will make to prevent the Pipspook Quest, and I think it would be okay to have a way to automatically generate Mourning Glory if there is a reasonable cost or game progression.

Previous examples which eliminate the need for repetitive resource gathering, Enlightened Shard for Winona's generators and Restrained Static for Wigfrid's Elding Spear.

[Koomin]

3 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said:

I can't understand why who like Pipspook Quest must against the alternate way what something that just automatically generates. I don't think it will make to prevent the Pipspook Quest, and I think it would be okay to have a way to automatically generate Mourning Glory if there is a reasonable cost or game progression.

I pick Wendy because I enjoy playing Wendy and engaging with her game mechanics.  I would love more mechanics to actually interact with, but skipping the game mechanics by having things generate automatically for me would not be fun.  I don't really understand why I would pick Wendy to skip the components of playing Wendy.  The same reason I wouldn't want a soul jar automatic refiller for Wortox or an automatic nightmare fuel generator or something.  I want to actually play the game not watch it play itself. 

On the topic of why I would be annoyed if this was added when I could just not use it since I know that will be brought up:

-they have limited time and I would rather they put the time towards higher priority things than a quest people have to do for 3 minutes every 5 hours, with a change that I personally would get nothing from

-if they are going to work on the quest, I would rather they work on making it more interesting

-it makes me feel bad doing something that is essentially a waste of time.  Yes I could ignore the mechanic, but it would feel bad and make me enjoy the experience less if I knew I could just be standing around with the same result.

I guess the summary is that I don't understand wanting to make them automatically generate.

[SilverSpoon]

42 minutes ago, Koomin said:

I pick Wendy because I enjoy playing Wendy and engaging with her game mechanics.  I would love more mechanics to actually interact with, but skipping the game mechanics by having things generate automatically for me would not be fun.  I don't really understand why I would pick Wendy to skip the components of playing Wendy.  The same reason I wouldn't want a soul jar automatic refiller for Wortox or an automatic nightmare fuel generator or something.  I want to actually play the game not watch it play itself. 

You think so, but other people don't so they want automation.

42 minutes ago, Koomin said:

-they have limited time and I would rather they put the time towards higher priority things than a quest people have to do for 3 minutes every 5 hours, with a change that I personally would get nothing from

-if they are going to work on the quest, I would rather they work on making it more interesting

Yes, I personally agree that, so I said "Now that it's been eased so that you can get a ton of Mourning Glory from a Pipspook quest with skill tree points, I personally think that this is enough." "I think everyone should agree that 'It's OK to not be implemented in this update.'" But that is not enough to deny the suggestion I think.

42 minutes ago, Koomin said:

-it makes me feel bad doing something that is essentially a waste of time.  Yes I could ignore the mechanic, but it would feel bad and make me enjoy the experience less if I knew I could just be standing around with the same result.

I think that's too subjective a reason, and "I feel like losing out" is a hard reason to accept to who suggested.

[Koomin]

9 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said:

You think so, but other people don't so they want automation.

Yes, I personally agree that, so I said "Now that it's been eased so that you can get a ton of Mourning Glory from a Pipspook quest with skill tree points, I personally think that this is enough." "I think everyone should agree that 'It's OK to not be implemented in this update.'" But that is not enough to deny the suggestion I think.

I think that's too subjective a reason, and "I feel like losing out" is a hard reason to accept to who suggested.

I'm not denying any suggestions or saying that everyone agrees with me.  I'm not sure where you came up with any of that.  I'm just sharing my opinions about what I would like to see, just like everyone else.  Saying that something would make me feel bad is totally a real reason to accept.  All I said was that I, personally, would only be happy if it wasn't automated.  Here is my original post again if you want to reread it:

1 hour ago, Koomin said:

I would enjoy an alternate way or the quests being made more interesting, just as long as the alternate way is not something that just automatically generates them.

I'm not sure why it is some big problem that I am providing input that I don't agree with a suggestion.