I think you are just perfunctory to players (in terms of Wendy's skill tree), the reasons are as follows

[beepbeepbot]

    This post has only one intent, and I'm going to prove with facts that you guys are being perfunctory.

    The current version of Abby, and I'm talking about the moon(gestalt) version of her, she dazes in place for a second after attacking before continuing to dodge. I looked through SGabigail.lua and I noticed that you guys have added a new state called "gestalt_rest", and it's this state that puts Abby in a dazed state for 1 second while fighting.

    What kind of feeling does this give me? It's that you go through your unit tests, find a bug in your design, and then your solution is to just change the value of the variable to make it pass the unit tests. Or you find a bug in a module of your program, and instead of debugging it, you choose to comment out the whole module and add some print statements telling everyone, "Hey, I found a bug in this piece of code eh, so everyone just don't use it lol"

    The regular Abby was very weak in the boss fight, so you added the moon version. It's true that the last version of moon Abby was so strong that she could take on Deerclops and Bearers on her own. It really doesn't make much sense, and I agree that a player's NPC shouldn't be able to take out bosses on her own and let the player sit back and enjoy the ride. I have to say you guys have better ways of engaging players in combat, like entities that have been attacked by Abby will have a chance to change their hate target to Wendy. But you guys don't even want to think about that. So the solution you guys gave was to just nerf Abby, making her lose almost all of her passive ability to avoid damage, and even adding the stagnation state that makes her very much more at risk of taking hits (even if it makes her even worse than pigfolk/mermfolk when it comes to dodge) In short, making her back to being a mediocrity killed by four strikes. Then to make up for it, you guys make her dodge bosses at low hp and immune to one fatal hit under certain conditions. By doing this you get the player back into the fight. All I can say is that yes, it worked, and I had to join the fight and watch over Abby during the fight to keep her from dying too quickly. But did it ever occur to you guys that I could have done otherwise, I've played this game for 3300+ hours and I have all the skills to beat bosses. I could have fought any boss one on one and it would have been less work and more efficient than calling Abby. Babysitting Abby in the middle of a fight doesn't give me much benefit, but it takes a lot more energy out of me.

    "It's a character for new players, they need that", you'll tell me. Okay, so let's do the math. Regular Abby's maximum damage is 40/s, and the moon version is 200/5s - at first glance, there's not much of a difference, is there? But the moon version of Abby not only doesn't have much more kite ability (because of that sluggish 1 second) and survivability (because she can take damage while attacking now), but she even loses her AOE... can you tell me the reason for choosing the moon version?

    Then let's look at the new branch you've added, you can now get live a butterfly with a butterfly wing for "only" 4 Mourning Glory, so why do I need live butterflies? Well, it turns out that I need to kill critters for my shadow skill(I'm going to ignore the whole thing about the Shadow skill simply changing the value of a variable to create another Wolfgang.), so what do I need if I just grab four butterflies? Oh, turns out it's 2 silks and some grass and twigs. so tell me, why do I need to craft live butterflies? The reason I can think of is to show off to Abby: "Hey look Abby, I can resurrect butterflies oh that's awesome isn't it lol"

    DST used to be a great game, and so far it's worth 3300 hours of my personal time, but future... who knows. Finally, let's see my game time to prove that I didn't lie to you.

 

[YuRinshue]

There are more and more updates that have been nauseating to players for a long time, and Klei is now only ruining the goodwill accumulated from years of famine, which is disgusting

 

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

Since the update of Wendy's skill tree, the real Wendy players have been trying to make suggestions for the skill tree, but the result is that they ignore us, and most people in the forum also discriminate against Chinese players.

[PunkShark]

It is incredible how this minority of players are so melodramatic about such changes in a beta build. They're changing up the stats to see how it would fare as a test. They overnerfed her but considering how the reception has gone through (and the attitude towards it) it's safe to say it's gonna get looked at, again. Ya'll seriously can't handle being part of a beta if you have to throw a fit every time something changes and act like it'll be the end of the world.

Skill trees are not just for you personally, it is for everyone and within all types of players no matter the play hours. Butterfly crafting is just convenient for the peeps who's gonna get lots of mourning glory anyways and easier time getting flowers for the sisturn, the price is a bit steep but that can be changed easily to something more comfortable.
 

[1007954611]

25 minutes ago, PunkShark said:

令人难以置信的是，这少数玩家对测试版中的此类更改如此夸张。他们正在更改统计数据，看看作为测试结果会如何。他们过度削弱了她，但考虑到接待情况（以及对此的态度），可以肯定地说它会再次被审查。如果你每次发生变化时都必须发脾气并表现得好像这将是世界末日，那么你真的无法忍受成为测试版的一部分。

技能树不仅适用于您个人，也适用于所有人和所有类型的玩家，无论游戏时间如何。蝴蝶制作对于无论如何都会获得大量哀悼荣耀的窥视者来说很方便，而且更容易为西斯图恩买花，价格有点高，但可以很容易地换成更舒适的东西。
 

The problem is they literally blew off her kneecaps with the nerf

[lio516]

37 minutes ago, PunkShark said:

Ya'll seriously can't handle being part of a beta if you have to throw a fit every time something changes and act like it'll be the end of the world.

If not now, when are you gonna say it, when the dust settles，You can't even express your displeasure

[PunkShark]

34 minutes ago, lio516 said:

If not now, when are you gonna say it, when the dust settles，You can't even express your displeasure

There are far better ways to do so. critique is important but there's no point with all this filler and anger. You can pull off a comment without being excessive and crude. Constructive and informative.

[No_light]

1 hour ago, PunkShark said:

令人难以置信的是，少数玩家竟然对测试版中的此类变化如此激动。他们正在更改统计数据，以查看测试结果。他们过度削弱了她，但考虑到反响（以及对此的态度），可以肯定地说，他们会再次审视这个问题。如果每次发生变化时你们都要大发雷霆，表现得好像世界末日一样，那么你们真的无法忍受成为测试版的一部分。

技能树不只是为你个人准备的，它适用于所有人和所有类型的玩家，无论游戏时间长短。蝴蝶制作对于那些无论如何都会获得大量哀悼荣耀的人来说很方便，而且更容易为姐妹获得鲜花，价格有点高，但可以轻松更改为更舒适的价格。
 

About the making of butterflies 
Why don't I make a bug net to catch 
Instead, after killing the butterfly, the butterfly is resurrected

[Lee lol]

6 minutes ago, PunkShark said:

有更好的方法可以做到这一点。批评很重要，但所有这些填充物和愤怒都没有意义。你可以写一条评论，但不会太过分和粗鲁。建设性和信息量大。

Aside from a few emotional diction, I think most of what he says is factually correct, pointing out the problems with the current Wendy skill tree, if you've tried it in beta.

[PunkShark]

4 minutes ago, No_light said:

About the making of butterflies 
Why don't I make a bug net to catch 
Instead, after killing the butterfly, the butterfly is resurrected

make it cost like 1 mourning glory and one butterfly wing, it's so cheap you might as well use it.

 

3 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

Aside from a few emotional diction, I think most of what he says is factually correct, pointing out the problems with the current Wendy skill tree, if you've tried it in beta.

Oh i'm not disagreeing, i think they did overnerf and made some incorrect balance changes with the Wendy skill tree in this patch. But there's really no need for this emotional distraught. It's okay to be disatisfied don't get me wrong. But it's a little over the top to threaten that because of these changes, They might just quit DST altogether. Which is silly.

[RiceMilk]

If Gestalt Abigail doesn't have better survivability, I don't think I have a reason to use it because it can't cause AOE damage.

I don't know what the purpose of reviving a butterfly is, unless killing one resurrected butterfly is equivalent to killing ten ordinary butterflies.

[YuRinshue]

38 minutes ago, PunkShark said:

make it cost like 1 mourning glory and one butterfly wing, it's so cheap you might as well use it.

 

Oh i'm not disagreeing, i think they did overnerf and made some incorrect balance changes with the Wendy skill tree in this patch. But there's really no need for this emotional distraught. It's okay to be disatisfied don't get me wrong. But it's a little over the top to threaten that because of these changes, They might just quit DST altogether. Which is silly.

I think the main problem is that Klei has a clear attitude of ignoring unresolved issues every time he leaves the test server, which is evident in Wilson and Wigford's skill tree. Players don't want to see this scene happen again, so they have been providing as much feedback as possible, even making statements that make people feel emotionally unstable.
If the test server is closed, the unsatisfactory content becomes the content of the official server. These players are completely disappointed.

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

8分钟前，YuRinshue说：

我认为主要问题是，每次离开测试服务器时，Klei都有一种明确的态度，忽视未解决的问题，这在Wilson和Wigford的技能树中显而易见。玩家们不想看到这一幕再次发生，所以他们一直在提供尽可能多的反馈，甚至发表让人情绪不稳定的声明。
如果测试服务器关闭，不满意的内容将成为官方服务器的内容。这些球员完全失望了。

yes

[WenericMember]

10 minutes ago, YuRinshue said:

I think the main problem is that Klei has a clear attitude of ignoring unresolved issues every time he leaves the test server, which is evident in Wilson and Wigford's skill tree. Players don't want to see this scene happen again, so they have been providing as much feedback as possible, even making statements that make people feel emotionally unstable.
If the test server is closed, the unsatisfactory content becomes the content of the official server. These players are completely disappointed.

Except scrappy scavengers and depths of duplicity both had changes for the previous skill trees.

To be clear,  concerns are valid, but theyll probably be willing to make changes after the beta. Wilsons a special case, and wig is 1 of 7

[Anis5240]

4 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

depths of duplicity

what

There's no skill tree changes in that update. For Scrappig, yes.

[WenericMember]

5 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

what

There's no skill tree changes in that update. For Scrappig, yes.

Winonas skill tree bridges were changed to work underground. IK its relatively minor, but it was a change they spent time discussing in the beta stream, so they obviously thought of it as significant.

Maybe im misremembering bit I thought the whole reason caves voids got reworked was because of that.

[Anis5240]

12 minutes ago, WenericMember said:

Wilsons a special case

said 'special case' is getting to 2 years old now, and still nothing.

[cyjs]

If Wendy's skill tree is updated I won't use it anymore, she's so sad right now

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

Wendy's skill tree needs to be reset.

[WenericMember]

8 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

said 'special case' is getting to 2 years old now, and still nothing.

Fair enough. I wasnt agreeing or disagreeing with the decision to keep his tree in its present state, but can understand the case for both sides.

[renamoe]

I really appreciate the time and effort you put into crafting this detailed post, especially with clear evidence and logic. Your passion for the game is evident—not just in your thoughtful analysis, but also in the incredible 3300+ hours you've invested in DST.

I hope that Klei continues to keep this conversation open rather than shutting it down. Posts like yours are valuable for expressing what dedicated players feel and think about the direction the game is taking. It's important for developers to hear these perspectives as they refine the skill tree and other mechanics.

Thank you again for sharing your insights!

[LuneCaptor]

This community genuinely disappoints me. In the situation where Klei clearly has taken to pandering toward the whiney Wendy players, you still decide to mindlessly complain without any constructive feedback.

You act entitled like spoiled children who think they're owed the world.