Reduce max wendy health to 100 or 125

[arubaro]

Isnt about nerfing but consistency. Walter and wicker has less hp. Wolfgang and wigfrid has more,  meanwhile wendy which has a summon gets 150 which is the ammount for a regular adult man like wilson or woodie (and actually, he being a lumberjack makes him deserve 175 instead of wimpy wilson ammount)

She having 150 doesnt make sense mechanically or "lore" wise 

[aehhh1finskiy]

Yeah I thought about it too! It doesn't make sense to me that a little girl has the same hp as Woodie or Warly, that's a bit weird. And gameplay wise decreasing her hp could be a nice little downside, since Wendy doesn't have any *real* one, especially with her new skill tree.

[Sacco]

I think a health nerf fits more wanda, because she is meant to be a glass cannon, but she effectively has 150 health...

Wendy already has less damage overall.

But i have to be honest, having less health is not a bit downside honestly... almost unnoticeable

[Peasant]

Consistency huh…then WX should get an initial hp of 200, after all he is made of metal.

[cloudf]

Sure, why not.

Maybe we can even reduce it to like 75, and make Wendy less effective at mining or chopping. Instead, we can summon mirrors of Abigail, and they are capable of fighting, mining or chopping trees.  I also have some ideas about dark incantations that may be worth exploring.

[Peasant]

Just now, Sacco said:

I think a health nerf fits more wanda, because she is meant to be a glass cannon, but she effectively has 150 health...

You mistaken it. Wanda is a glass canon not because she has lower hp, but because she often Stays in lower hp status.

[Sacco]

Just now, YXukun said:

Consistency huh…then WX should get an initial hp of 200, after all he is made of metal.

Wx has less stats to encourage players get his circuits.

I see the point of arubaro, less health because she has a summon which can destroy all enemies hordes which can be horrible to fight them.

 

1 minute ago, YXukun said:

You mistaken it. Wanda is a glass canon not because she has lower hp, but because she often Stays in lower hp status.

yes i know, but overall she has 150 hp, 37.5 if old.

Reducing her health makes it so she becomes old faster and easier in fights too and dies quicker.

This would make her old age more risk/reward too.

[purelove]

1 minute ago, cloudf said:

Sure, why not.

Maybe we can even reduce it to like 75, and make Wendy less effective at mining or chopping. Instead, we can summon mirrors of Abigail, and they are capable of fighting, mining or chopping trees.  I also have some ideas about dark incantations that may be worth exploring.

A Wendy player has dreamed of it

[Peasant]

Just now, cloudf said:

I also have some ideas about dark incantations that may be worth exploring.

Speaking to this, I have an idea, why not we make Wendy can perform magic with Abigail's flower? We can make her summon mirrors of Abigail to help her with mining and all that stuff

1 minute ago, SSneaky said:

must be some thin metal if some pigman could ruff them up.

Makes sense, WX should also get another 50% defense against normal damage.

[arubaro]

10 minutes ago, Sacco said:

But i have to be honest, having less health is not a bit downside honestly... almost unnoticeable

Yes, for that i started the topic talking about that this suggestion isnt about nerfing but consistency. The same way i dont think woodie needs a buff but having 175 hp would make sense

 

 

Edit. Is hilarious how all the same casual of everytopic use maxwell as a passport to asking for non sense stuff

[Sacco]

1 minute ago, arubaro said:

Yes, for that i started the topic talking about that this suggestion isnt about nerfing but consistency. The same way i dont think woodie needs a buff but having 175 hp would make sense

hp buff on woodie would help his wereform a bit honestly.

Cause no healing means more health helps a lot (1.5 hp every 5 seconds isn't that much).

Maxwell health starts to act more like a downside, but he is so broken that it doesmct effect him.

50 health would unironically be a serius downside.

[arubaro]

4 minutes ago, Sacco said:

Maxwell health starts to act more like a downside, but he is so broken that it doesmct effect him.

Also i might be wrong but i remeber something related to maxwell having health (heart specifically)problems back when he was added but was a decade ago and i never read anything like that again 

Duelist should cost max hp. Like 4 or 5

[Steorra]

Ok, I agree. If that happened then Wendy should learn some true Black magic For self-protecting now.

[Sacco]

15 minutes ago, arubaro said:

Also i might be wrong but i remeber something related to maxwell having health (heart specifically)problems back when he was added but was a decade ago and i never read anything like that again 

Duelist should cost max hp. Like 4 or 5

i don't know.

I think spawning warriors should cost 5 hp and the cage should have a cooldown so you can't immobilize bosses.

[Jakepeng99]

56 minutes ago, arubaro said:

Isnt about nerfing but consistency. Walter and wicker has less hp. Wolfgang and wigfrid has more,  meanwhile wendy which has a summon gets 150 which is the ammount for a regular adult man like wilson or woodie (and actually, he being a lumberjack makes him deserve 175 instead of wimpy wilson ammount)

She having 150 doesnt make sense mechanically or "lore" wise 

Also, how does Wendy have 150 hunger but Walter has 110?

[Echsrick]

i mean that would make sense given she is a little human girl, if walter has less hp why sould wendy not be less?

[SilverSpoon]

1 hour ago, arubaro said:

Isnt about nerfing but consistency. Walter and wicker has less hp. Wolfgang and wigfrid has more,  meanwhile wendy which has a summon gets 150 which is the ammount for a regular adult man like wilson or woodie (and actually, he being a lumberjack makes him deserve 175 instead of wimpy wilson ammount)

She having 150 doesnt make sense mechanically or "lore" wise 

ThePlayer.components.health:SetMaxHealth(value) or play other not cozy game

[NPCMaxwell]

1 hour ago, arubaro said:

Also i might be wrong but i remeber something related to maxwell having health (heart specifically)problems back when he was added but was a decade ago and i never read anything like that again 

Duelist should cost max hp. Like 4 or 5

I still think they should have made a reference to his health problems and actually give him a chronic health loss like I did for mine. Cause standard Maxwell's "low" health to me really is completely unnoticable. I love the idea of duelists costing hitpoints! That would actually make standard Maxwell having an actual /health/ disadvantage again. (that's a main reason why I adored singleplayer's codex umbra and shadows way more)

Sorry I forgot this post is about Wendy!!! I think Wendy has a ridiculous amount of health and for some reason no work-"strength" reducement too, that's also why I never considered her interesting as a character to play with. (I would also give Webber a similar limitation though, since he too, is a little child.) When I choose a character I would actually really like to have base-stats feel like a difference. (Also Woodie definitely feels in this case "ridiculously" standard considering he's chopping woods. But at least he has his benefit here so this kind of counterweights that standard feeling.)

[ShadowDuelist]

I don’t think nerfing Wendy would be good for the game, the forums or Klei in any way.
Anyone who’s been at the forums in the past weeks will know why.

[arubaro]

8 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

How does Walter have 1.0 attack but wendy has 0.75?

 

Why is Wendy the only character other than Wes to have 0.75 attack damage? It is suggested that Walter's attack damage be adjusted to 0.75 as well, since he is also a young boy and basically only rides on Warby's back for ranged attacks.（isn't about nerfing but consistency)

I think a teenager scout is stronger than a younger rich girl

[usagiP]

14 minutes ago, arubaro said:

I think a teenager scout is stronger than a younger rich girl

that's not a reason for you to bully her

[arubaro]

Just now, usagiP said:

that's not a reason for you to bully her

(?)

[Jakepeng99]

30 minutes ago, Lee lol said:

Why is Wendy the only character other than Wes to have 0.75 attack damage? It is suggested that Walter's attack damage be adjusted to 0.75 as well, since he is also a young boy and basically only rides on Warby's back for ranged attacks.（isn't about nerfing but consistency)

Wendy is a little girl who does no excersise, doesnt eat much and stays inside all day playing the luigi board. Walter is a survival expert who loves the outdoors, eats nutritious food, and does lots of excersise.

[Sacco]

2 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

Wendy is a little girl who does no excersise, doesnt eat much and stays inside all day playing the luigi board. Walter is a survival expert who loves the outdoors, eats nutritious food, and does lots of excersise.

Walter would have become a fitness influencer if he wasn't put in the Constant.

[Jakepeng99]

2 minutes ago, Sacco said:

Walter would have become a fitness influencer if he wasn't put in the Constant.

Counterpoint: Walter says he is wimpy when eating chilly powder.