Is the upper limit of Abi's HP fake?

[Mike23Ua]

I have an idea… how about we make the OP part of Wendy’s kit only obtainable by using an End game boss item to summon her..

Will that work for you? She still gets to be OP but you have to EARN that power, and you have to earn it consistently across every play session you attempt to play in as Wendy.

Rather than being a one time Unlock from killing CC & AFW ONCE, and then having that extreme level of power permanently available to you from Day One in fresh starting worlds..?

I hate Goop Abby, and any actual long-term Wendy main should probably hate her too.. not only does it completely break Wendys entire core gameplay loop, but it seems disrespectful to Abigail that Wendy would further distort her sisters Image into whatever GoopyGail is meant to be…

and I’m willing to bet those 15 or so Abigail skins won’t work with Goo Abby.

For these people to talk so much about “We buy all your skins, we are your income, we own you..” etc…. I sincerely think they just want Wendy to be Busted levels of OP and in fact: Don’t give a rats backside about the skins.

Otherwise: People would have serious issue with GooAbby obsoleting their Abby skins they’ve purchased.

[Sacco]

47 minutes ago, Waywarbler said:

This thread is infuriating.

"I really worry about your mental health" can definitely be perceived as an insult, and going "no no I'm really worried about you, you need a psychiatrist, I'm not insulting you :)" is just, slimy behavior.

Nobody here is fighting to make Wendy worse as some kind of spiteful act against her playerbase. They just think her health (600 max health + 600 extra health) is fine as it is now, and that 1200 max health would be unnecessarily high.

What else can i say?

I was chill until a couple of people started telling bad things.

I was just saying my honest opinion and some people just attacked me...

[aidankocherhans]

4 hours ago, Sacco said:

MENTAL HEALTH?!?!? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Please bro, just because i want balance it doesn't mean that i am weird.

I feel like everyone talking to you is the insane one, you barely said anything before they dogpiled on you

4 hours ago, YuRinshue said:

Your insistence on retaining those garbage like skill points has nothing to do with your claim that 'the skill tree should be interesting'

When did they say anything other than that they should nerf an obviously unintentionally OP skill? *Edit, actually they didn't even suggest nerfing wendy

4 hours ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

Aren't Wolfgang and Wanda OP? Why don't you discuss him? You are here to stop Wendy from getting better. You are not even a real Wendy player.

Stop taking their words out of context, they didn't even bring up Maxwell in the first place. Do you seriously think they hate Wendy for some reason and want all Wendy mains to suffer?

[Sacco]

11 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said:

I feel like everyone talking to you is the insane one, you barely said anything before they dogpiled on you

Thanks for telling them what's happening and make them maybe open their eyes.

[aidankocherhans]

19 minutes ago, Sacco said:

Thanks for telling them what's happening and make them maybe open their eyes.

Hold on, I must've gotten confused somewhere because when did you even suggest a nerf to Wendy period? These people are writing long prose letters about you but didn't you just say Maxwell should be nerfed, and Wendy shouldn't get a hypothetical overpowered skill?

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

and I’m willing to bet those 15 or so Abigail skins won’t work with Goo Abby.

Don't the skins only affect the flower?

[Sacco]

1 minute ago, aidankocherhans said:

Hold on, I must've gotten confused somewhere because when did you even suggest a nerf to Wendy period? These people are writing long prose letters about you but didn't you just say Maxwell should be nerfed, and Wendy shouldn't get a hypothetical overpowered skill?

I didn't want to nerf wendy, i just said that wendy doesn't have to become as op as maxwell to become a cool and engaging character as far as i remember.

[Peasant]

7 hours ago, Cosiek said:

pinnacle of chinese community XD

 

7 hours ago, Sacco said:

fr, most of that part of the community never showed up here and just came on these forums to cry because their favourite character can't be wolfgang

This revealed the true thoughts of some people. At the bottom of their heart they believe that chinese players should never come to the forum and bring out an opinion or suggestion or whatever at all. Yet they cannot simply say this in public, so instead they use all kinds of excuses to prevent chinese players from ever complaining or suggesting. First is "some of you insults so all of you are responsible", then is "you just want wendy be op".

I wonder when will they finally be stating "Why should a Canada company listen to the opinions of some Chinese people? Just because you paid?"

All in all, such people are still the minority, like people who acts in bad manner, or people who believe that a dragonfruit pie is op. There're far more people who are welcome to new opinions and new voices, who would truely benefit the game.

[Sacco]

5 hours ago, YXukun said:

 

This revealed the true thoughts of some people. At the bottom of their heart they believe that chinese players should never come to the forum and bring out an opinion or suggestion or whatever at all. Yet they cannot simply say this in public, so instead they use all kinds of excuses to prevent chinese players from ever complaining or suggesting. First is "some of you insults so all of you are responsible", then is "you just want wendy be op".

I wonder when will they finally be stating "Why should a Canada company listen to the opinions of some Chinese people? Just because you paid?"

All in all, such people are still the minority, like people who acts in bad manner, or people who believe that a dragonfruit pie is op. There're far more people who are welcome to new opinions and new voices, who would truely benefit the game.

No? I just told the truth.

I've never seen so many chinese players on this forum, that's it.

You have the right to give feedback.

That thing of ALL OF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE YOU INSULT ME is straight up false.

Probably you didn't read any of my message, but i am not generalizing and saying that all chinese players do this, just a group.

 

[Peasant]

55 minutes ago, Sacco said:

No? I just told the truth.

I've never seen so many chinese players on this forum, that's it.

The first part, true. The other half? People come here isn't because "their favourite character can't be wolfgang", but because their favourite character got a poorly designed skilltree. Yet I kept seen people simply stamp them with "op lover" tags or "want their favourite character to be wolfgang", and then deny whatever dissatisfaction they hold.

People who love her would be more than satisfied if Wendy got a skilltree with the quality close to willow or winona, yet they received a skilltree that is even worse than wilson's. Besides, word show one's emotions. The emotion I gather from your words is, shall we say not that friendly to these new faces. And that's why I said that you should relax, your posts showed an extreme anxiety, probably panic over op, which confuses me and led me to worry about your mental health.

1 hour ago, Sacco said:

That thing of ALL OF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE YOU INSULT ME is straight up false.

Well, other people does. I've seen people blaming someone who had never posted any insults and so for "hate posts" posted by others like a guardian of justice, claiming "constructive suggestions doesn't make you not responsible for hate". It was not until that very post that I had considered you as part of "them". If you say you are not, then I'll stop viewing you as one of "them".

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

1小时前，Sacco说：

不？我只是说了实话。

我从来没有在这个论坛上见过这么多中国玩家，就是这样。

你有权提供反馈。

你们所有人都有责任，因为你侮辱我，这完全是假的。

你可能没有看我的任何信息，但我不是在一概而言，也不是说所有中国球员都这样做，只是一个团体。

 

我再次强调，提出你心理有问题，这怎么就是侮辱你了？你那么害怕OP，心理真的健康？我再给你建议，你去看看医生吧

1小时前，Sacco说：

不？我只是说了实话。

我从来没有在这个论坛上见过这么多中国玩家，就是这样。

你有权提供反馈。

你们所有人都有责任，因为你侮辱我，这完全是假的。

你可能没有看我的任何信息，但我不是在一概而言，也不是说所有中国球员都这样做，只是一个团体。

 

我们喜欢的温蒂，技能树出现太多问题，我们不应该来反馈吗？你该好好想想为什么会有这么多人出来反馈，而不是在这里指责怎么突然冒出来这么多中国人，你的言语中！充满着歧视！！

[Sacco]

1 hour ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

Sottolineo ancora: perché è offensivo suggerire di avere problemi psicologici? Hai così paura dell'OP, sei davvero mentalmente sano? Lascia che ti dia un altro suggerimento. Vai a consultare un medico.

Ci piace Wendy, ma ci sono troppi problemi con l'albero delle abilità. Non dovremmo dare un feedback? Dovresti riflettere attentamente sul motivo per cui così tante persone escono per dare feedback, invece di incolpare il motivo per cui così tanti cinesi sono apparsi qui all'improvviso, parole tue! Pieno di discriminazione! !

you are just s***talking.

Now go cry please.

Instead of insulting me for an opinion ona fu***** game which no one cares about.

CRY MORE

[OMEGASCRUFF]

What if this forum had moderators wouldn't that be funny guys

[Sacco]

15 minutes ago, OMEGASCRUFF said:

What if this forum had moderators wouldn't that be funny guys

it's weird that this post didn't get blocked...

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

24分钟前，Sacco说：

你只是在说s***话。

现在请哭吧。

而不是因为一个没人关心的fu*****游戏的意见而侮辱我。

多哭

我真是不想骂你，有病就治病别搁着发疯，我都懒得搭理你了。

[Sacco]

6 minutes ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

我真是不想骂你，有病就治病别搁着发疯，我都懒得搭理你了。

BRUH.

I have a mental problem just because i don't want characters to become op

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

刚才，Sacco说：

兄弟。

我有一个精神问题，只是因为我不想让角色变成op

是是是，你说的都对

[Sacco]

5 minutes ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

是是是，你说的都对

It's an opinion, i might be wrong or i might be correct.

An opinion is an opinion.

CRY just because a random dude has an idea different than yours if you really want to CRY.

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

7 minutes ago, Sacco said:

It's an opinion, i might be wrong or i might be correct.

An opinion is an opinion.

CRY just because a random dude has an idea different than yours if you really want to CRY.

Ok, I cried. Are you satisfied? You are a cold and ruthless person.

[Peasant]

3 minutes ago, Sacco said:

BRUH.

I have a mental problem just because i don't want characters to become op

 

1 minute ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

是是是，你说的都对

I really don't think either of you is doing anything meaningful here.

First is sacco, as I said I have observed that you seems to almost panick over opness while there haven't even shown much probablity for it. You should stop being so panicked about opness and clamly analyze if one skill could actually make someone op, for example this one, I've already stated that this skill would not make an op wendy, for it only makes her more excel at things she already masters, while providing little benefit when it comes to the hardship she now endures, so there's no need to be so worried about potential opness. If you want to talk about op and nerf go to the gestalt abigail post, instead of calling a not so successful number boost op.

Then is you, multiple zs, the moment you two had given up proving your opinions by listing evidences and datas and began simply rubbishing each other this became meaningless. You are here because you want to show your opinions and make suggestions, not because you want to argue with someone which you can do it anywhere else.

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

3分钟前，YXukun说：

 

我真的不认为你们中的任何一个都在这里做任何有意义的事情。

首先是sacco，正如我所说，我观察到，你似乎几乎对opness感到恐慌，而它甚至还没有显示出太大的概率。你应该停止对opness如此恐慌，并分析一项技能是否真的能让某人op，例如这个技能，我已经说过，这项技能不会使op wendy，因为它只会让她在她已经掌握的东西上更加出色，而当她现在忍受的困难时，几乎没有好处，所以没有必要如此担心潜在的opness。如果你想谈论op和nerf，请到格式塔阿比盖尔帖子，而不是打电话给一个不那么成功的数字提升op。

然后是你，多个z，当你们俩放弃通过列出证据和数据来证明你们的观点，并开始简单地互相诋擦的那一刻，这变得毫无意义。你来这里是因为你想表达你的观点和提出建议，而不是因为你想和别人争论，而你可以在其他地方争论。

I don't want to argue with him, but they started talking about Chinese players first.

8分钟前，YXukun说：

 

我真的不认为你们中的任何一个都在这里做任何有意义的事情。

首先是sacco，正如我所说，我观察到，你似乎几乎对opness感到恐慌，而它甚至还没有显示出太大的概率。你应该停止对opness如此恐慌，并分析一项技能是否真的能让某人op，例如这个技能，我已经说过，这项技能不会使op wendy，因为它只会让她在她已经掌握的东西上更加出色，而当她现在忍受的困难时，几乎没有好处，所以没有必要如此担心潜在的opness。如果你想谈论op和nerf，请到格式塔阿比盖尔帖子，而不是打电话给一个不那么成功的数字提升op。

然后是你，多个z，当你们俩放弃通过列出证据和数据来证明你们的观点，并开始简单地互相诋擦的那一刻，这变得毫无意义。你来这里是因为你想表达你的观点和提出建议，而不是因为你想和别人争论，而你可以在其他地方争论。

What we are discussing here is the games we play together. I don't know why they discriminate against Chinese players like this.

[Sacco]

18 minutes ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

Ok, I cried. Are you satisfied? You are a cold and ruthless person.

me? probably you are the bad guy

11 minutes ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

I don't want to argue with him, but they started talking about Chinese players first.

What we are discussing here is the games we play together. I don't know why they discriminate against Chinese players like this.

i have never said that chinese players are evil, just that a ton of them came to the forums just to cry (some gave good feedbacks tho) and never came in the forums for other things because they only care about wendy

[Peasant]

16 minutes ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

I don't want to argue with him, but they started talking about Chinese players first.

What we are discussing here is the games we play together. I don't know why they discriminate against Chinese players like this.

 

5 minutes ago, Sacco said:

me? probably you are the bad guy

i have never said that chinese players are evil, just that a ton of them came to the forums just to cry (some gave good feedbacks tho) and never came in the forums for other things because they only care about wendy

How about this, Sacco, do you think all chinese players are evil?

zzzzzzzzzzzz, do you want to make Wendy an op character?

[zzzzzzzzzzz]

3分钟前，Sacco说：

我？你可能就是坏人

我从未说过中国玩家是邪恶的，只是他们中有很多人来论坛只是为了哭（有些人给出了很好的反馈），从来没有来论坛是为了其他事情，因为他们只关心温迪

狡辩，我没提问题包括建议吗，我只表达了一次我的心情你就在这逮着这点疯狂输出，并试图抹黑所有中国玩家！

1分钟前，YXukun说：

 

这个怎么样，Sacco，你认为所有中国球员都是邪恶的吗？

zzzzzzzzzzzz，你想让Wendy成为一个op角色吗？

我并不希望温蒂成为第二个沃尔夫冈，只是加些无趣的数值，我希望技能树能够解决温蒂短板，并且可以有很多有趣的机制，我有提出我的问题和建议，月阿比的转化是个问题，我没有想好怎么解决，所以我提出这个问题，暗影阿比最终效果需要在背包杀死小动物，这无疑是在打boss前增加工作量，我希望可以优化为当温蒂造成伤害200时触发一次，这是我的建议（200点伤害只是我的举例）还有概率双倍制药和更多哀悼荣耀冲突了，概率双倍制药就变得很无用，我希望可以开发一些更有趣的机制给温蒂，以及坟墓问题，这个可以和更多哀悼荣耀进行合并。阿比闹鬼机制我希望可以增加些概率或者是概率药水，以及在骨灰盒挂机10分钟获得一个600护盾的问题，我的建议是直接给这点血上限吧，这点并不能叫做OP，看下伯尼好吗？只是给个护盾，那我挂机10分钟就为了挨boss两三下，不觉得太幽默了吗？这些都是我的意见和建议。

[Sacco]

36 minutes ago, YXukun said:

 

How about this, Sacco, do you think all chinese players are evil?

zzzzzzzzzzzz, do you want to make Wendy an op character?

i am not an fu**ing racist!!!!!

Heck, telling a random guy that he is racist because he said something about chinese players which is not related at all to their origins is idiotic.

Shut up and stop commenting under this post.

Think whatever you want, but it's crazy that we are arguing for these idiocies for two days now.

You won't gain everything from **** talking about me.

I won't either, so we should stop now.

[Peasant]

49 minutes ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said:

我并不希望温蒂成为第二个沃尔夫冈，只是加些无趣的数值

 

11 minutes ago, Sacco said:

i am not an fu**ing racist!!!!!

Then an agreement can be reached. Sacco says they are not a racist, and zzzzzzzzzzzzz says they do not want Wendy to be another Wolfgang. Therefore the very reasons of this conflict between the two of you is now Vanished. I hereby judge that the case is closed, and both sides should apologize to the other.