Wortox naughty side perk

[arubaro]

In the dev stream they mentioned that the nice side might remove the monster tag and the naughty will allow us to hold a bigger ammount of souls for a limited time to get a bigger damage bonus.

Sounds great but i feel like the naughty one, despite being a good idea for a sinergy, might be too situational and, if you are fighting you dont want to overflow on souls because the sanity loss.

What if instead the souls, instead of just falling, are spit arroud wortox dealing damage but not healing. It can have a bigger sanity drop since he is greedy but is losing his precious souls

[Y0sH]

Love this idea, the holding souls from an overload seems a bit niche and another thing to keep up with while fighting. If the souls kinda just shoot out and disperse in a short window it'll give players time to either throw some souls in a jar or drop some to regain the ability for souls to flare out before going into the inventory.

[Ruperstiltskin]

I would love if the overflow would just simply overflow and deal damage instead of the healing they do when you are naughty

But even the one we are getting seems usefull so i wont complain :^)

[arubaro]

4 hours ago, Y0sH said:

Love this idea, the holding souls from an overload seems a bit niche and another thing to keep up with while fighting. If the souls kinda just shoot out and disperse in a short window it'll give players time to either throw some souls in a jar or drop some to regain the ability for souls to flare out before going into the inventory.

I was thinking about keeping the downside of dropping then with the sanity hit but, instead of just falling and healing, being thrown away.

I think is fun to keep the downside of overflowing because of how you need to pay attention and manage the souls during combat. i had a lot of fun yesterday during a BQ fight, sometimes the killing chain was so big that i lose sanity, by the end of the fight i needed to be extra careful with the ammount of souls i had

[Soul7k]

i will take anything at this point. at this point the nice side is just getting better with neutral mobs not being hostile and the healing bonus with a worse food while the naughty side just gets... better food and a possible temporary buff so you don't pop right away at max souls, while getting worse heals.

maybe eating souls should give him planar damage or something on the naughty side instead.
alternatively maybe we should be able to rip the cork off a soul jar and send out 40 souls with soul pierce

right now I am tinkering with a balanced tree that isn't aligned since I want the echo heals and there is not really a reason to go dark and reduce my heals when it does not increase my damage

[arubaro]

12 minutes ago, Soul7k said:

i will take anything at this point. at this point the nice side is just getting better with neutral mobs not being hostile and the healing bonus with a worse food while the naughty side just gets... better food and a possible temporary buff so you don't pop right away at max souls, while getting worse heals.

maybe eating souls should give him planar damage or something on the naughty side instead.
alternatively maybe we should be able to rip the cork off a soul jar and send out 40 souls with soul pierce

right now I am tinkering with a balanced tree that isn't aligned since I want the echo heals and there is not really a reason to go dark and reduce my heals when it does not increase my damage

For me is quite the opposite.  I only pick the speed bonus perks.. the fun and strong perks are in the naughty tree

[Soul7k]

2 minutes ago, arubaro said:

For me is quite the opposite.  I only pick the speed bonus perks.. the fun and strong perks are in the naughty tree

I'm able to basically get everything but soul pierce from the shadow side and the soul cap increase, while still getting movement speed and double heals from the left side and the scythe upgrade. I still get most of the shadow perks

[Jazzuo]

15 minutes ago, Soul7k said:

i will take anything at this point. at this point the nice side is just getting better with neutral mobs not being hostile and the healing bonus with a worse food while the naughty side just gets... better food and a possible temporary buff so you don't pop right away at max souls, while getting worse heals.

maybe eating souls should give him planar damage or something on the naughty side instead.
alternatively maybe we should be able to rip the cork off a soul jar and send out 40 souls with soul pierce

right now I am tinkering with a balanced tree that isn't aligned since I want the echo heals and there is not really a reason to go dark and reduce my heals when it does not increase my damage

TBH Kinda true, the naugthy perk is kinda ass, but like the naugthy side is good tho, even if you want to go the nice side, you need a lot of souls, so either way you want the soul jar, if not basically the soul heart is gonna cost half of your souls every one, and you want to have at least one, if you need fast healing, or maybe someone die fighting. the soul pircing is so good to farm souls that, even if you go for the nice side, you want it.

The knabsack is still a good weapon, better than a dark sword without sanity drain and uses less space inventory than a dark sword against raid bosses which i mean, raid bosses are the fights that you need more importantly inventory spaces because they have unique mechanics, if not probably you're gonna have walking cane + magi + weapon + foods, but with wortox you don't need actually healing food and armor but like if it's not a raid boss probably you don't need that much armor to begin with.

[twitchgabo]

Right now my only issues are:

- The Knabsack needs a full rework. The dmg upgrade mechanic is annoying and the active skill needs a buff.

- The Naughty inclination buff should have something related to Krampus (like triggering the naughtiness threshold faster or even slightly increasing the Krampus Sack drop). It is definitely better than before, but the Nice inclination one is so much better.

- The best part of the nice inclination is the "monster side" removal. But in order to achieve that you need to waste so many precious skill points for filler talents (the reaching soul and bastion are really underwhelming). The best skills are from the naughty side.

 

I like how they are addressing the feedbacks. 

 

We just need a little bit more

[Argwarn]

4 minutes ago, twitchgabo said:

Right now my only issues are:

- The Knabsack needs a full rework. The dmg upgrade mechanic is annoying and the active skill needs a buff.

- The Naughty inclination buff should have something related to Krampus (like triggering the naughtiness threshold faster or even slightly increasing the Krampus Sack drop). It is definitely better than before, but the Nice inclination one is so much better.

- The best part of the nice inclination is the "monster side" removal. But in order to achieve that you need to waste so many precious skill points for filler talents (the reaching soul and bastion are really underwhelming). The best skills are from the naughty side.

 

I like how they are addressing the feedbacks. 

 

We just need a little bit more

knabsack needs like 2 jars for full damage now iirc,it is potent enough 

But yes Krampus sack drop increase should be a thing on the naughty side

[twitchgabo]

11 minutes ago, Argwarn said:

knabsack needs like 2 jars for full damage now iirc,it is potent enough 

But yes Krampus sack drop increase should be a thing on the naughty side

You still need to have 4 or less empty slots in your inventory to do 68 damage with the knabsack

 

[Dingle]

2 minutes ago, twitchgabo said:

You still need to have 4 or less empty slots in your inventory to do 68 damage with the knabsack

 

Oh nice, I kept assuming it needed to be full. Good to know.