1007954611 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 花瓣净化术 无论变普通花还是恶魔花都没有什么实际意义，不如把技能修改为恶魔花瓣变成蝴蝶或者月蛾之类与花朵相关的小动物，既有实际意义又可爱。 裹尸布 取消减速和转移伤害的设定，彻底重置，温蒂穿戴裹尸布后每次主动攻击后为阿比盖尔提供一定时间段的无敌护盾，通过温蒂的攻击频率帮助阿比盖尔回避伤害，强调姐妹协同操作。 迁坟 这个技能挺有意思的，不过作用太少了，加点东西吧，比如被温蒂装饰过的墓碑夜晚发出荧光（玩家靠近后熄灭）、夏天能够提供一个较小的降温效果。 Petal Purification It doesn't really matter whether it's a normal flower or a demon flower, so why not modify the skill to turn demon flowers into butterflies or moths, which are related to flowers, and have practical significance and cuteness? Shroud of the Undead Remove the slowdown and transfer damage settings, and completely reset it. After Abigail wears the Shroud of the Undead, she will provide Abigail with an invincible shield for a certain period of time after each active attack by Wendy. This shield can help Abigail avoid damage by increasing Wendy's attack frequency. Emphasize the sisters' coordinated operation. Graveyard Shift This skill is quite interesting, but it has too little effect. Add something to it, such as a tombstone decorated by Wendy that emits a faint glow at night (it goes out when players get close) and a small cooling effect in summer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 I think Graves By Wendy (Graveyard Shift) is pretty weak for a 3rd tier skill right now, so I think it would be also cool if Wendy gave some custom Headstone descriptions, as the humor of the existing headstones doesn't really fit her. I'd also like her to be able to repair touchstones, as there currently isn't a way to repair them. I think your changes to shroud of the undead might be better suited to being attatched to a more offensive role though, such as one of the alignment potions. The timing of triggering Abigails shield manually feels like it would eather be too difficult or to easy to use. My idea for petal purification was for Mourning glories and lunar blossoms, but that works too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo920101 Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 10 minutes ago, 1007954611 said: she will provide Abigail with an invincible shield for a certain period of time after each active attack by Wendy So what you have in mind is: By holding the attack button, Abigail get infinite immunity to damage, buffs Wendy's attack no matter what. No point to move or dodge, cause that will just lead to Abigail lose her immunity. The only thing effect the result of the combat is how much armour Wendy actually carry. how fun, what about Abigail doesn't take any damage at the first place? let's suggest that too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 19 minutes ago, 1007954611 said: Graveyard Shift This skill is quite interesting, but it has too little effect. Add something to it, such as a tombstone decorated by Wendy that emits a faint glow at night (it goes out when players get close) and a small cooling effect in summer. i like this idea .. giving ambiance of little light or maybe if there two or three grave near each other it will give the fog u found in grave yard biome.. not sure about the cooling effect but maybe its fitting if its not tied to season but tied to nighttime instead Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 10 minutes ago, leo920101 said: So what you have in mind is: By holding the attack button, Abigail get infinite immunity to damage, buffs Wendy's attack no matter what. No point to move or dodge, cause that will just lead to Abigail lose her immunity. The only thing effect the result of the combat is how much armour Wendy actually carry. how fun, what about Abigail doesn't take any damage at the first place? let's suggest that too. Yeah because the current version of the flower shroud doesn't do the exact same thing. It's almost as if its easy not to get things perfect on the initial description of an idea. If you're not being needlessly cynical, the idea was probably for it to be a few frames at most, incentivizing proper timing of attacks to protect Abigail. Considering the other suggestions are more than reasonable, it's unfair to assume the worst out of this one. Aside from that, giving Abigail a buff based on Wendy's attacks as a mirror to Abigails Vex is a phenomenal idea that deserves ideation, not to be dismissed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 2 hours ago, leo920101 said: So what you have in mind is: By holding the attack button, Abigail get infinite immunity to damage, buffs Wendy's attack no matter what. No point to move or dodge, cause that will just lead to Abigail lose her immunity. The only thing effect the result of the combat is how much armour Wendy actually carry. how fun, what about Abigail doesn't take any damage at the first place? let's suggest that too. Sounds rather amusing considering the fact that klei has actually made people now simply wearing shroud and leaving Abigail at home so that she keeps regaining health and press F and thus defeats every boss, even the lunar bearger. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 1 hour ago, YXukun said: Sounds rather amusing considering the fact that klei has actually made people now simply wearing shroud and leaving Abigail at home so that she keeps regaining health and press F and thus defeats every boss, even the lunar bearger. if im not wrong to interpreted this message from klei they will made that abigail send part/all(?) of their damage to wendy head slot armor instead at later update so there will be a armored abigail soon On 11/23/2024 at 9:44 AM, Jason said: The Flower Shroud currently redirects Wendy's damage onto Abigail. It will change so that Abigail will benefit from Wendy's head gear armor instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, mima_ said: if im not wrong to interpreted this message from klei they will made that abigail send part/all(?) of their damage to wendy head slot armor instead at later update so there will be a armored abigail soon I‘ve already see video that wendy wearing shroud and no other armor, putting abigail at home, holding a hambat, and pressing f to defeat all three phases of celestial champion. I'm appalled. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 Just now, YXukun said: I‘ve already see video that wendy wearing shroud and no other armor, putting abigail at home, holding a hambat, and pressing f to defeat all three phases of celestial champion. I'm appalled. To be fair regardless of what happened that was never going to fly in the live build much like years back when they accidently made it so Willow could have a infinite number of big bernies at once. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 21 minutes ago, YXukun said: I‘ve already see video that wendy wearing shroud and no other armor, putting abigail at home, holding a hambat, and pressing f to defeat all three phases of celestial champion. I'm appalled. well i guess thats why they gonna reverse how the shroud works. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1007954611 Posted November 25, 2024 Author Share Posted November 25, 2024 4小时前， leo920101 说： 所以你要记住的是： 通过按住攻击按钮，阿比盖尔获得对伤害的无限免疫，无论如何都会增强温蒂的攻击力。 没有移动或躲避的意义，因为这只会导致阿比盖尔失去免疫力。 唯一影响战斗结果的是 Wendy 实际携带了多少盔甲。 多么有趣，阿比盖尔一开始就没有受到任何伤害呢？让我们也提出这个建议。 这只是一个粗略的想法，其实你可以通过 [技能 cd] 等简单的方法限制对伤害的无限免疫 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 Help you, compatriot Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161165-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E7%9A%84%E9%83%A8%E5%88%86%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%91%E8%AE%BE%E5%AE%9A%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE-suggestions-for-setting-up-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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