Opinions I collected about wendy's skilltree

[Peasant]

Ok, so so far I have been seeing all kinds of discusses over wendy's lame skilltree which I'm sure we all agree is lame in all the dst groups I'm in. Now here is some of the opinion I collected amongst the swears and curses.

1. Wendy should be taking damage for abigile, not the other way round.

2. petal skilltree sucks, should also be turned the other way around

3.should make multiple potions work at the same time

4.a potion jar maybe?

5.lunar abi is fine, but needs to make the weak effect last longer enough for the next attack

6.shadow abi skill3 kinda meaningless, carring a bag of bees for a little more damage is no point

[Iridal]

I don't want to say its completely lame, but I agree some of it doesn't make sense.  In response to your comments...

1. Shroud - The floral shroud doesn't bother me as is.  It seems that Abigail takes Wendy's damage taking in to account whatever head armor Wendy is wearing, so it results in damage reduction for Abby which she didn't have before.  Wendy is safer, Abigail is safer, and you can take Wendy to tank and take advantage of the damage boost she gets from Abigail's Vex easier.  Plus, healing Wendy heals Abigail.  So its not so much Abigail taking a fall, they're working together better to protect each other.  If shroud could trigger Abigail's shield around both them, it would go even further to "link" them.
2. Petal line - I agree, petals conversion baffles me, why am I going to use 4 dark petals and a mourning glory to craft the easiest flowers to find in the game?
3. Potion line - Also agree, allowing two potions at once would be better than longer duration.  They're already long enough.
4. Potion jar - I'm indifferent to this, I can already stack multiple like potions so it doesn't take up a ton of inventory space.
5. Lunar - Gestalt Abigail seems stronger for sure.  I never got around to the CC so I haven't tried it yet, but on paper looks stronger.  Half a lunar cycle is quite the commitment though, I'd like a more convenient way out even if I have to wait until a full moon to activate it.  Or make it harder to activate but on a timeline of your choosing.
6. Shadow - I haven't figured out how much damage the murder skill even does, but visually it was underwhelming and boring.  Finding the creatures isn't hard though, a few fishing trawlers and I can murder fish to trigger it.  Plus I can keep the meat I guess?

A few of my own thoughts...

1. Graves - I like that Wendy can move graves, but building her own seems pointless.  How many do I really need?  Just move the ones already in the world.  Plus it seems you can only build a new one on a skeleton, I'm not taking the time to die in the right place to make that happen.
2. Pipspook - Generating more mourning glories at the end is nice but I'm not wasting 3 points to get there.  I've never been that bothered by how far the toys are or how many he remembers.  If I move all the graves closer to my base, Pipspook can spawn closer to me anyway and I'll just do the stupid quests more often.  
3. Team Spirit - Escape seems useless, I've been unsummoning Abigail to achieve just this, but I guess it saves me the sanity hit.  The dash is nice to aggro something without making Wendy get hit, but if Wendy is intended to tank with the shroud that also seems silly.  The scare is nice when Abigail is mobbed by spiders and stuff though... but again, if they're all running away, her AOE doesn't get used.  So I'm confused by this whole line.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

[WenericMember]

Some other comments that are fairly common:

1. Abigail should be able to inflict Haunt (the effects player ghosts can perform on the world)
2. The alignment potions should be switched (they each synergise better with the other)
3. The blessed Sisturn III & Dark petal Production rate are too low for what they're trying to achieve.

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, Iridal said:

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

You pretty much said everything I would’ve wanted to say but I’ll give my own thoughts to add to it.

Dark Petals into Flowers is pointless it would be better if I could convert normal flowers into dark ones.

Escape is pointless when Dismissing achieves the same result.

Potions lasting longer after heavy skill investment is pointless when Pipspook now provide more glory to craft more of the same potion & since you can’t apply more than one, only one potion can ever be active at any given time.

Wendys Interactions with ghosts are extremely lacking..

Abigail not having a “Haunt” command to force the mutation of Pigmen into Werepigs as just one example of usage is really upsetting. I could’ve “Haunt” fire hounds to convert them to ice hounds before killing them!

Crafting my own graves by intentionally needing to die sounds like something I’ll do if I want to decorate a pretty graveyard adorned base, but having to die to achieve such.. idk, personally I’d prefer Klei just allowed Wendy to craft the games tombstones and skeletons (including the broken bones and weird deer heads found in desert biome) from scratch.

And before you say that’s far too morbid and weird- let me introduce you to this:

That is Wendy wearing the Dead skull of some unknown bird as a hair bow.

So.. I “Think” I have great reason to request the crafting of desert biome skull heads.

[WenericMember]

1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said:

You pretty much said everything I would’ve wanted to say but I’ll give my own thoughts to add to it.

Dark Petals into Flowers is pointless it would be better if I could convert normal flowers into dark ones.

Escape is pointless when Dismissing achieves the same result.

Potions lasting longer after heavy skill investment is pointless when Pipspook now provide more glory to craft more of the same potion & since you can’t apply more than one, only one potion can ever be active at any given time.

Wendys Interactions with ghosts are extremely lacking..

Abigail not having a “Haunt” command to force the mutation of Pigmen into Werepigs as just one example of usage is really upsetting. I could’ve “Haunt” fire hounds to convert them to ice hounds before killing them!

Crafting my own graves by intentionally needing to die sounds like something I’ll do if I want to decorate a pretty graveyard adorned base, but having to die to achieve such.. idk, personally I’d prefer Klei just allowed Wendy to craft the games tombstones and skeletons (including the broken bones and weird deer heads found in desert biome) from scratch.

And before you say that’s far too morbid and weird- let me introduce you to this:

That is Wendy wearing the Dead skull of some unknown bird as a hair bow.

So.. I “Think” I have great reason to request the crafting of desert biome skull heads.

Dark petals into flowers is annoying, because it would make sense if the Grave beautification skills were good.

Get flowers -> beautify graves -> collect dark petals -> purify -> convert to regular petals -> beautify more graves

would be an infinite loop for dark petals and regular petals, making the skill worthwhile to create that feedback loop. The issue is... IT COSTS MORE PETALS TO BEAUTIFY A GRAVE THAN THE GRAVE PRODUCES.

WHY

It completely defeats the entire purpose of the skill synergy and makes dark petals I worthless.

[Evelo]

I only agree with point 5 but I seem to be the only one who thinks this. I should just die like Abigail then.