[Game Update] - 642632

[ATRI]

月亮形状的鬼姐的攻击间隔比之前更高，导致额外伤害效果的覆盖时间短;
造成飞机伤害的药水的效果似乎有点低。
我姐姐经常在战斗中受到保护。要是裹尸布能给她提供防御就好了。

[0Navis0]

It would be great to add moonstone and red gem rounds.

[Rinastarry]

Somewhat concerned about Abigail's ation menu, it adds an extra step to riling up/calming that'll be annoying except when you want to use the new actions. Maybe allow abigails actions to be set as keybinds as well? That way the menu could stay while still allowing smoother commands for those who want them.

[LEILEI985]

It's not a good idea for Abigail to take the pain for wendy. wendy should take the pain for Abigail in turn. In fact, Abigail is the charm of the character, and the player would never want to lose Abigail in battle, which would make Wendy a purely negative character with a 0.75 attack factor

[EatenCheetos]

Please! Less focus on slingshot skills. I wanted stuff for his camper tent, his campfire stories, his hunt chances. Instead we got this slingshot shovelware.

[JesseB_Klei]

1 hour ago, RonanMcQ said:

Is anyone having their game close when they try to open the map? I’m unsure if it’s a mod problem or not because my mods are still enabled when I go back

This should be fixed with the latest hotfix, please let me know if it is not for your current mod setup.

[Derbab]

YES!! THANK you klei

[RockOnTable]

1 hour ago, JesseB_Klei said:

This should be fixed with the latest hotfix, please let me know if it is not for your current mod setup.

I played for a bit with the hotfix and it’s working now. Thanks for the fast change!

[Hollow soul 3]

3 hours ago, _mylilsunshine_ said:

It's still beta, things are subject to change. Please provide constructive criticism and detail feedback on what feels good and what does not. Don't be a Debby downer saying "wah wah bad".

I know it feels like that looking through the comments, but I want to assume that most of the people here weren't just sitting by their computer every Thursday, just for a chance to complain. I think if you separate what people are saying from how they're saying it, you'll see where they're coming from.

[Bumber64]

Kind of weird that the ability to hold more souls is sorted into the naughty branch. It's important enough for either side that it should probably be neutral.

Nice branch, by contrast, starts off with perks that are of no use solo. Abilities that seem suspiciously like Wanda clocks.

Knabsack should probably be able to expend souls for greatly increased damage. (I guess that'd make it like alarming clock, lol.)

How often does the free flute activate? Description sounds like you have to be actively holding it as a requirement? And then it wears off if you don't use it quickly? So you just run around with a pan flute praying it activates when you need it, rather than prepping in advance?

Edit: Being able to use souls to heal NPC followers would benefit the nice branch. He could craft a disguise (neutral or nice?) to recruit the ones he can't normally, at the cost of using the head slot.

Edited November 22, 2024 by Bumber64

[Master_NiX]

I have one suggestion for "The Scales" default talent.
Originally Wortox is hostile due to affinity with Krampus, but originally he is nice fella, isnt he?

The Moment I saw "The Scales" and inclination, I immediately thought of Fable's System. 
We see two locks for nice and naughty perks, so I'd like to add few things to them.

Nice Inclination - Monsters now treat Wortox as a "human" player, allowing him to live with Pigs, Rabbits, Catcoons etc. Basically allowing him to help the others by taming neutrals.
Naught Inclination - Monsters and Neutral Monsters Prioritize Wortox over other players. This would synergize well with the new perks he got, since They require enemies to target him, or be near his souls.

Edited November 22, 2024 by Master_NiX
Missed a word..

[arubaro]

6 hours ago, kroban said:

I think purple rounds slow and honey/icker slow are different, in like, stackable. Purple rounds are a debuff on the target itself while the others are aoe slow on the floor. Havent tested it yet but, in theory you could use 1 purple round to slow the target for 30 seconds, then use honey/icker to slow them even more.

But i doubt anybody will carry extra kind of rounds just to stack a slow debuff... plus is a waste of potential to have 3 rounds with practically the same effect even if you can combine them...

There are many crowd control effects that can be added from stuns to stats debuffs like slower atack rate

[GamePlayer42]

4 hours ago, Whyro said:

What if Walter had a sash where he can put badges on to, similar to wx using circuits but with more slots and more specific perks he can mix and match. For example one that lets him craft faster or one that gives him a chance to dodge an upcoming attack randomly. Every badge can be crafted with items corresponding to the perk it applies and the recipes can be unlocked after Walter performs a specific task just like how real scouts earn their badges.

cool idea but atp they arent gonna add anything as large as a whole sash with its own seperate skills, but would be a cool exploration into his boy scout origins

[Sacco]

17 minutes ago, arubaro said:

But i doubt anybody will carry extra kind of rounds just to stack a slow debuff... plus is a waste of potential to have 3 rounds with practically the same effect even if you can combine them...

There are many crowd control effects that can be added from stuns to stats debuffs like slower atack rate

would be cool if vortex rounds sucked enemies (you know, a vortex...) and then it would cause an explosion dealing damage

[Master_NiX]

I just realized one thing that drives me crazy.

It's a soul-infused Backpack-net

We got a new weapon via Wortox named Knabsack, which is not a backpack while named such. Has same recipe as a Bug net (minus a rope) and looks as such, yet you cant capture butterflies/Bees (which actually would make sense, since a lot of Wortox players stack up these for quick soul refill). Has same features as a whip, yet has the range of a normal tool. And has AOE Gather, while unable to attack more than 1 target even if they are insects that are in the same proximity.

Edit: Also, can we please be able to use souls from Soul Jar for crafting without opening it? I kinda wish there was a hotkey to quick stack Souls into the jar and back, without opening it each time.

Edited November 22, 2024 by Master_NiX

[Hatboy7]

wortox skill tree is amazing, i love the naughty and nice concept but i do think the naughty side could get a small buff.

wendys skill tree I feel like could have some more work but i like where it's going, like maybe replace the strong elixir upgrade with something that makes abigail take less damage. This would make using the dark petals ll upgrade even more worth it

Walters skill tree is also nice but i hope some of the slingshot ammo type skills get merged to make some room for more upgrades, not just slingshot ammo focused ones

[jiangsheng]

Before the redesign, Wendy said, "Abigail, I know it's dangerous outside, but I need you
After the redesign, Wendy said, "Abigail, I know it's dangerous outside, but I can make you even more dangerous。

Wendy's reduced rationality after her sister's death indicates that Wendy does not want Abigail to be harmed. It's unreasonable to make my sister resist harm. The biggest problem in the current boss battle is that the older sister will die suddenly in various damage of 100+. Sisters connect with each other, not sisters become one person

[Memetan]

KLEI FOR REAL, Why Walter gets NOTHING in his skill tree? I saw people got angry when Winona got her skill tree, making it the catapult skill tree. Klei can you please focus a little more in the characters and less in one tool? At this rate Wanda skill tree is gonna be just the Alarming Clock Skill tree.

Here you can see how "well" distributed the insight points are.

[_mylilsunshine_]

27 minutes ago, Memetan said:

KLEI FOR REAL, Why Walter gets NOTHING in his skill tree? I saw people got angry when Winona got her skill tree, making it the catapult skill tree. Klei can you please focus a little more in the characters and less in one tool? At this rate Wanda skill tree is gonna be just the Alarming Clock Skill tree.

Here you can see how "well" distributed the insight points are.

Yep. gonna echo this sentiment right here which I believe captures the truth very well:

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It does feel like Klei fell for the misconception Walter is just his Slingshot and Woby. I was hoping for some flavor perks too.

Klei, Walter is so, so much more than just Sling & Woby. He's a boy scout, he loves nature, he's a pacifist (kind of), he's allergic to bees, he can craft camping items, he can tell campfire story, he's blissfully fearless, he's indifferent to clothes, etc. You gave him all of these flavorful characteristics and lore, just to discard them all in the skill tree. This is just like when the British colonies for spices, and then give the world toast sandwiches (look it up). I don't want to spend points on ammo 1, ammo 1.5, ammo A, ammo B, etc.

Edited November 22, 2024 by _mylilsunshine_

[Hane416]

I don't see why the Wendy building couldn't offer something more useful and about this "Dark Petals I",even I don't know what it does. If the vest would allow Wendy to share abi's damage then it would be more useful, at least it seems so to me.Wendy is a simple character to be practical for newbies.

[Littlefat1213]

Really need some buff for abigail, i would rather bear some damage for abigail than the opposite, abigail is too easy to die in the epic boss fight, plz Jason.

[Mullor]

Wendy is not strong at all at this point, your update seems more perfunctory to me, because it is too strong, so the skill tree must be very weak, but from the current overall point of view, Wendy is a joker compared to other skill tree characters, you are just perfunctory, pick something random and put it on, the designer will not play the game at all, this is the first time I have been so disappointed in this game

[Nneyk]

Please , can you stop just givong characters ability wheels? Its the same problem as with chqracter reworks and new meters.

At some point it just gets repetative and borring , and all characters share a controll scheme and ui style.

 Wx-78's rework brought in a new meter , but everyone loved it  , for it looked cool and creative. Right now , even without any skills , one click process of riling up abigale needs a menu. And exactly same menu everyone else has.

It was exiting with maxwell , a bit allarming but cool with willow , weird with winona , but with wendy it feels wrong all of a sudden to me.

Maybe a new ui? Above the flower in your inventory? Or something else new and cool? You are great and creative people , dont say you cant imagine it!

Maybe abigale controll ui for new abilities will be near her health meter , and you ll keep existing controlls (retriewing her and riling her up) as is? Just its kinda hard and anoying to forget years of muscle memorie from years of being wendy main.

Also its alarmingly easy now to acidently unsummon her.

 

I see the idea , and the petal flower style of the wheel , but really , this ui doesnt work for everyone. Not for wendy for sure.

Also: can you please let us corrupt petalls as well? Puryfying them does nothing and doesnt really feel that wendy-ish.

Was she ever a pure spirit?

 

[arubaro]

22 minutes ago, Nneyk said:

Please , can you stop just givong characters ability wheels? Its the same problem as with chqracter reworks and new meters.

What is the problem with that? Opens more gameplay possibilities 

[Keknutui]

KLEI, could you redo the design of Woody and Wolfgang's skill tree?