Frosty_Mentos Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 She seems like she has a solo gig going on with the throne room and Constant, but in the background would be interested to know how does Maxwell or Charlie actually get grotesque monsters created, event creatures coming in planned and skins she or some other entity might be designing for survivors to dress for occasion. Would be interesting to see if she or Maxwell were doing experiments on creatures with nightmare fuel, summoning demonic entities that would want to inhabit their world or how do things from random eras and places just kinda appear via some time paradoxes or whatever. What I'm requesting is a short of it happening, a tale of the constant of spooky creations being made and anomalies that come with shadow or any other magic abuses. Maybe some things could be buried and be discovered by survivors as those 'earlier concepts' as some sort of fossils or even some ways to even summon those creatures back into existence. Something goofy for gameplay and update for reminding that having almost god-like powers are limited by mere human imagination and pickiness. ... Now makes me want a short of Charlie almost like a hobbyist that's trying to play with clay, magic, creature lives, metal casting etc. whatever to inspire survivors to try refurbishing and clean sweeping into those given shapes and sizes, and Charlie in the background changing those structures like a helping hand from an interior designer. I'm sure she had an eternity to explore these hobbies just to keep herself busy, after all - she did design her own throne room? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159062-does-charlie-have-lackeys-or-throne-room-visitors-i-wonder-request-for-a-charliemaxwell-rulers-of-the-constant-short/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said: She seems like she has a solo gig going on with the throne room and Constant We see her being followed by a crawling nightmare and a terrorbeak into the archives in the eye of the storm trailer, almost as her personal guards. But nothing other than that afaik. 2 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said: to explore these hobbies just to keep herself busy, after all - she did design her own throne room? I like to think that the survivors are enjoying their time in the constant now more than before, kind of like a breath of fresh air. Life in the constant seems a bit more cheerful with her in the throne, Maxwell was all threats and statues of himself! (and as a side note enlightment may seem less threatening than shadows) Just off the top of my head, during her reign we got: -Skins, which in game the characters get swallowed by shadow hands to get changed, as if Charlie is dressing them up lol. -A stage for our characters to dabble in a bit of acting, even if they don't want to follow the script provided by the queen herself, all of them have a unique act. -A living stagehand, it's a nice touch yknow...even if it can give you a spook. -Racing vs her own shadow racers during YotC and YotD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159062-does-charlie-have-lackeys-or-throne-room-visitors-i-wonder-request-for-a-charliemaxwell-rulers-of-the-constant-short/#findComment-1741048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPCMaxwell Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 In my own version of the story (very AU one, not canon) Maxwell DID become Charlie's "lackey" or at least the king by her side. And both Charlie and Maxwell kept shaping the constant to their will. (I imagine them using pergament and feather pencils to draw and construct drafts, clay and other natural material to shape prototype models of their creatures, then creating a final-size version mostly from material that will be found as a loot in the final creature and at the last step bringing them alive via shadow magic. I also imagine shadow-magic [the codex umbra specifically] being used on already existing creations to change and mutate them.) (That's why I believe anyone who has learned to read the codex umbra would be able to create or change the constant's world.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159062-does-charlie-have-lackeys-or-throne-room-visitors-i-wonder-request-for-a-charliemaxwell-rulers-of-the-constant-short/#findComment-1741051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted August 16, 2024 Author Share Posted August 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, Juanasdf said: We see her being followed by a crawling nightmare and a terrorbeak into the archives in the eye of the storm trailer, almost as her personal guards. But nothing other than that afaik. I like to think that the survivors are enjoying their time in the constant now more than before, kind of like a breath of fresh air. Life in the constant seems a bit more cheerful with her in the throne, Maxwell was all threats and statues of himself! (and as a side note enlightment may seem less threatening than shadows) Just off the top of my head, during her reign we got: -Skins, which in game the characters get swallowed by shadow hands to get changed, as if Charlie is dressing them up lol. -A stage for our characters to dabble in a bit of acting, even if they don't want to follow the script provided by the queen herself, all of them have a unique act. -A living stagehand, it's a nice touch yknow...even if it can give you a spook. -Racing vs her own shadow racers during YotC and YotD It is true that she join and plays with survivors while trying to push her plans to grow her and shadow influence, but it is becoming more of a dangerous consequence and decision made specifically by the survivors while queen offers a choice to progress, as if she doesn't want to do it without consent and Wagstaff is just kinda blind not to find the shard on his own, though would have done all of it himself if he could. Charlie has added SOME of the hardest monsters to fight in the Constant, but she seemed to push herself away from doing too much of it as it's more of a Maxwell's niche I'd suppose. She isn't narcissistic as Maxwell and she shown some playfulness while showing the boundry of 'the rules are the same, don't get too close to me'. Assuming her shadow side and probably some trauma hates people near her as to why she executes them. Though still wondering where did she bring all these ideas and creatures from. It's either more of her creations or creatures from other planes of existence? Cause we know little to no background about Cawnival, Lunar Beast events appear as something she made too. Unless she has much brighter mind than Maxwell in all of these cultures and more cheerier mutations, Winter's feast is definitely her doing. Bee queen, toad, Klaus... Klaus is a weird one to me, cause Krampii are assumed to be coming from the Atrium portal or some other way around. They carry basically nearly endless backpacks and disappear into them back to whatever place they come from. Klaus has his eyes and mouth sown shut and chained stomach mouth either that Charlie mutated a demon by mutilating it then creating an abomination of sorts, or Klaus is a demon of his own kind that decided to inhabit the Constant in the orders of the Shadow Queen. It's not clear what she does is her hand and what is some anomaly or even from beyond somewhere. Nightmare fuel and shadow magic are as mysterious as weird as they get, for all we know the core of the Constant is corrupt to the brim as to why ruins are that deep and show more shadows leaking out and mutating it's surroundings while whatever goes on deeper seeped in so deep that it either will open small cracks and rifts from what's beyond letting those nightmare creatures appear as projections before they disappear forever. Did anyone actually notice that shadows and nightmares are actually different in a way? Could say nightmares are projections and can't stay materialized forever while shadows just lurk everywhere, as sort of a remnant from the past Ancients. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159062-does-charlie-have-lackeys-or-throne-room-visitors-i-wonder-request-for-a-charliemaxwell-rulers-of-the-constant-short/#findComment-1741052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 33 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Cawnival Considering crows weren't planned to be in the constant and got inside with Wes, I don't think she was behind it. I figured it's run by Corvus himself and he and all the crow kids come from another place, kinda like hamlet but where crows developed further. So it exists separately, but Maxwell and probably Charlie have no interest in it? 33 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Bee queen, toad, Klaus... I agree with klaus coming from another plane like krampii. Otherwise, it might just be that she just based it on the real world folklore 33 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: It's not clear what she does is her hand and what is some anomaly or even from beyond somewhere. I think up until "A new reign" finished it was all her doing except for fuelweaver and the celestial orb / moonrock / moon stone (and maybe klaus). After that, only a few things can probably be linked to her doing. Lord of the fruitflies most probably. Chaining NW too, although the marble pillars lack her distinctive roses and they are made of dreadstone... and she waits for you to offer her some to repair the portal. The only other thing that I can think of is the waterlogged biomes. The salt formations seem more like a moon thing, same as the cookie cutters. All of the lunar shenanigans were probably not part of her original plans. Wagstaff and Wanda probably weren't either. And for all we know she might not even be aware of their presence. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159062-does-charlie-have-lackeys-or-throne-room-visitors-i-wonder-request-for-a-charliemaxwell-rulers-of-the-constant-short/#findComment-1741056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted August 19, 2024 Share Posted August 19, 2024 Interesting LOoRe prossssSpect Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159062-does-charlie-have-lackeys-or-throne-room-visitors-i-wonder-request-for-a-charliemaxwell-rulers-of-the-constant-short/#findComment-1741369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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