Wickerbottom - Suggestions and some feedback for the future skill tree

[Mr Giggio]

Hello everyone. Amazing day, I hope.

Yeah I've been playing a lot of Wickerbottom recently and honestly figuring stuff out with her is being a lot of fun. After some good a hundred hours doing bosses and shenanigans I quite have some suggestions and problematics to point out, so here we go:

> 1 - The oversatured discussion about Maxwell overshadowing her that I'm over.

Even tho I disagree cuz one - support characters exist [hello Warly u amazing man] and two - in megabase it definitly does not matter whatsoever, making her unicque will indeed be healthy for the game.

So my point is - why should we stay as Wicker? 

Making a purse that she can put books and paper on it, also an eraser to on hand be able to erase sketches and blueprints for more paper alone would make her start game even better and the purse would make people stay. Cuz purse being able to regenerate slowly the books over time with the max potential [2% when she around] once she carrying will make her able to use the books without being a finite restricted limitation still not bein BRoKeN Op once u cant just spamn a thousand times the same book without giving it time to recover. 

Also it would be super neat if dropping the purse on the floor that make it an structure to enable shadow magic tier.

> 2 - Some of the books quite not usefull in day by day chores.

• I will start with The End is Nigh. Just imagine if the lightning could deal damage and killing a Celestial Champion spamming thunder. That alone would be F I R E. Allows the book to do damage in a upgraded version in the skill tree is a good way to save the book. And yes Im aware about infused shard farming. Niche is good but not enough.

And dont powercreep me. Since Volt Goat jelly + wolfgang that aint a point anymore. Varying the way we do neat stuff aint making it in a worse spot than three years ago. Im not even talking about stupid damage, Im saying some damage.

• On Tentacles. Being able to cast tentacle spell in the place you want would be a dream for me. Or even in the shadow alignment she have a shadow tentacle like AG that she can place it whatever she wants. That make the book usefull for every fight and worth alone to bring with you. 

> 3 - Animations D:

She can be even worse about reading animations in fight than Maxwell. For him I m no complaining, its fine cuz its a downside. But for her is way to more punishing. No one will use Sleepytime stories x Pan Flute in dragonfly fight without being punished by the fact it take way too long to read the thing. Im trying to do fights with that one these days and boy, it hurts sometimes. 

That would be easily solved if she get an skill OR that make her not loose focus when getting hit [steady focus or something like that] or then learn a skill that makes like a faster caster like dinamic reading or whatever that reduces the time to get the effects going.

 

And thats pretty much. I think she has a lot of potential and its really really reeeeeeeeeally great. Just small lil details that would make me love her even more. 

Peace. 

 

 

 

 

[ShadowDuelist]

Cool suggestions! Just one comment:

 

45 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said:

On Tentacles. Being able to cast tentacle spell in the place you want would be a dream for me. Or even in the shadow alignment she have a shadow tentacle like AG that she can place it whatever she wants. That make the book usefull for every fight and worth alone to bring with you. 

On tentacles has always been a day by day use book, even before reworks and skill trees. The way I used to do that was carrying one book+paper, using it whenever i needed (during the old hound waves that spammed a ton of hounds for example, or shadow splumonkey attacks) and after im done, killing the remaining tentacles (if any) with the beefalo. 
Over time you know how many times you need to read according to what you are facing (usually just once, maybe twice if it was a lot of enemies. More if it was something tankier like several beefallos) and the dead tentacles will give you usually more than one spot back, so as long as you always have papyrus with you, you were always ready to re-make the book. Same with STS (casting will make you insane sooner or later, so you can re-craft the book)

Back in the day this was a unique way to play the game since you could be a true mounted caster since at least day 5ish, all the time, as long as you kept a papyrus supply. With all the following updates, even though this still works, it’s been strongly shadowed and feels annoying now compared to playing current Maxwell or Willow.
 

So my point is they could improve over what has always been there, but beef it up to the current state of the game. If they change the functionality of on tentacles (to be easier to control for example, or spawn a shadow variant) I rather they make it a book upgrade instead of changing how the current book works.
A book purse as OP suggested or a small book container (like the fishing gear container that Pearl sells) for, let’s say 4-6 books that regenerate your books would be amazing for her. And a way to tank her sanity issues would be good too (EG: as long as your sanity is above X amount, all magic casted consumes very little or no sanity). 

Also true mages always have a main “codex” where they summarize or combine the effects they want to carry. Maybe she could instead combine a bunch of books into one, that has the desired effects and then regenerate the book on the go somehow.

Allowing Wicker to play around her sanity for different magic effects would also be interesting (EG: high sanity makes her shadow magic casting a lot stronger and makes her very resistant to shadow magic or shadow aligned enemies, and low sanity (or low enlightment) does the same for lunar. Etc.

 

[Delta ONe]

I loved the idea of being able to choose where the tentacles will appear.

[Jakepeng99]

I want more books like on tentacles, where using them puts both you and the mobs in danger. Chaotic books.

[Keknutui]

I want buffs of books just for her and the addition of unique interactions both for Wikerbottom herself with books and with Constant

[WereBruhver]

5 hours ago, Mr Giggio said:

Making a purse that she can put books and paper on it, also an eraser to on hand be able to erase sketches and blueprints for more paper alone would make her start game even better and the purse would make people stay. Cuz purse being able to regenerate slowly the books over time with the max potential [2% when she around] once she carrying will make her able to use the books without being a finite restricted limitation still not bein BRoKeN Op once u cant just spamn a thousand times the same book without giving it time to recover. 

Good idea but I dont think that purse should regen the same as the Bookcase at its max regen rate as you are suggesting (2%/30 sec) otherwise the Bookcase would lose a lot of its purpose, 1%/30 would be enough for the purse, 1%/30 sec is the regen for the Bookcase when Wicker is not around.

 

6 hours ago, Mr Giggio said:

 

And dont powercreep me. Since Volt Goat jelly + wolfgang that aint a point anymore.

I don't agree with this kind of argument, not only is Wolf + Jelly a two character combo - needing the player to either be playing multiplayer with two especific characters or be playing solo and using portal to swap characters which is not everybody cup of tea and not acessible early game - but also if Volt Goat Jelly + Wolfgang is what should be considered damage wise when making skill trees than they should go back to prior skill trees and rethink them all because none of them get close to Jelly + Wolfgang damage and I don't think they should because it is silly to think about Wolfgang + Jelly when designing a single character damage output in the first place.

[Mr Giggio]

Just now, WereBruhver said:

Bookcase would lose a lot of its purpose

Slots buddy.

Bookcase can fit a bazilion times more books than a purse. 4 slots for example are more than enough for a purse and still all the others would be in base. 

[Valase]

8 hours ago, Mr Giggio said:

Making a purse that she can put books and paper on it, also an eraser to on hand be able to erase sketches and blueprints for more paper alone would make her start game even better and the purse would make people stay. Cuz purse being able to regenerate slowly the books over time with the max potential [2% when she around] once she carrying will make her able to use the books without being a finite restricted limitation still not bein BRoKeN Op once u cant just spamn a thousand times the same book without giving it time to recover. 

Also it would be super neat if dropping the purse on the floor that make it an structure to enable shadow magic tier.

Life is an interlude between people suggesting a book bag for Wickerbottom.

But I really like all of the Wickerbottom skill tree posts!