adminaaassh Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 As shown in the video, Winona's Inspectacles and Rose-Colored Glasses currently have no durability and are very cheap to craft, which I believe is unreasonable. Similar equipment types have corresponding durability. The developers could consider adding appropriate durability (such as freshness durability or usage time durability) and repair methods to these two items (e.g., Inspectacles could be repaired with the Auto-Mat-O-Chanic). The initial durability could be increased, for instance, to 20 days or 50 uses. Adding durability and repair methods can prevent the situation where equipment is never rebuilt after initial construction and can also enhance the game's enjoyment. Additionally, given the relationship between Winona and Wagstaff, Inspectacles could provide some immunity to the Moonstorm, such as a 70% movement speed increase and extended vision in the Moonstorm without consuming durability or being damaged by attacks. Rose-Colored Glasses might also gain similar abilities, such as protection against the underground Miasma. 3.mp4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRoboButler Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 durability being added to them in the name of giving them additional perks, seems very unnecessary as well as being a arbitrary resource sink for perks that are already not needed. Moonstorms already have ways to counter the negative effects as is, with the scrap heap making it so you don't even need to farm for potatoes for the goggles, and miasma is in no way a real threat or blockade of any meaningful capacity. kind of seems like a way to halt the use of the items in some way rather then actually provide an interesting interaction overall. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/#findComment-1727852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adminaaassh Posted June 21, 2024 Author Share Posted June 21, 2024 1 hour ago, ZeRoboButler said: durability being added to them in the name of giving them additional perks, seems very unnecessary as well as being a arbitrary resource sink for perks that are already not needed. Moonstorms already have ways to counter the negative effects as is, with the scrap heap making it so you don't even need to farm for potatoes for the goggles, and miasma is in no way a real threat or blockade of any meaningful capacity. kind of seems like a way to halt the use of the items in some way rather then actually provide an interesting interaction overall. It seems you misunderstood. I think it’s unreasonable for Inspectacles and Rose-Colored Glasses to lack durability. To me, it’s as unreasonable as having an infinitely durable Clever Disguise or Garland. My subsequent suggestions were made because I believe these features can be added, not to compensate for the addition of durability. Additionally, I don’t see these as wasteful designs but rather as reasonable suggestions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/#findComment-1727881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 6 hours ago, adminaaassh said: The developers could consider adding appropriate durability (such as freshness durability or usage time durability) and repair methods to these two items (e.g., Inspectacles could be repaired with the Auto-Mat-O-Chanic). If they got a durability system added, I think generator power would be appropriate to refuel the in spectacles. I do think it would make sense for the rose colored glasses to have freshness, but that would make the inspectacles much better than the rose colored glasses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/#findComment-1727906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 10 hours ago, adminaaassh said: As shown in the video, Winona's Inspectacles and Rose-Colored Glasses currently have no durability and are very cheap to craft, which I believe is unreasonable. Similar equipment types have corresponding durability. The developers could consider adding appropriate durability (such as freshness durability or usage time durability) and repair methods to these two items (e.g., Inspectacles could be repaired with the Auto-Mat-O-Chanic). The initial durability could be increased, for instance, to 20 days or 50 uses. Adding durability and repair methods can prevent the situation where equipment is never rebuilt after initial construction and can also enhance the game's enjoyment. Additionally, given the relationship between Winona and Wagstaff, Inspectacles could provide some immunity to the Moonstorm, such as a 70% movement speed increase and extended vision in the Moonstorm without consuming durability or being damaged by attacks. Rose-Colored Glasses might also gain similar abilities, such as protection against the underground Miasma. 3.mp4 Dont add durability to the rose glasses or there are going to be no flowers in the world. 3 hours ago, GimplyGoose said: If they got a durability system added, I think generator power would be appropriate to refuel the in spectacles. I do think it would make sense for the rose colored glasses to have freshness, but that would make the inspectacles much better than the rose colored glasses. It having freshness will be extremely akward, so i dont think it is a good idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/#findComment-1727986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmAFurrz Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 30 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Dont add durability to the rose glasses or there are going to be no flowers in the world. you arent gonna need it for too long, and as suggested it can last 20 days. as it is rn winonas got a way to cheat death early game, as well as easy bridges. its clearly an early game item (way too good of one). and the strangest thing about it is that it is one of the few items that are infinite durability with a bunch of special (and great) abilities, at 12 flowers of cost. having some sort of cap to it is just natural for DS. 35 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: It having freshness will be extremely akward, so i dont think it is a good idea. plenty of items have freshness, you wont die from it having a limit of 20 days (also this is vague and not constructive to the discussion) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/#findComment-1727994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimplyGoose Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 35 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Dont add durability to the rose glasses or there are going to be no flowers in the world. It having freshness will be extremely akward, so i dont think it is a good idea. The petal cost could be reduced if it had freshness, but 12 flowers really isn't all that much. It is a bit weird it doesn't degrade in any way. Instead of freshness it could need repaired by sewing kit/duct tape I guess. Gameplay-wise I think it makes sense for it to have some kind of durability. Also almost every wearable item has durability of some kind so I think it's awkward for this item not to have durability. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/#findComment-1727997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRoboButler Posted June 22, 2024 Share Posted June 22, 2024 As far as the cheat death element is concerned, to be entirely fair, the interaction with the rose should just have a reasonable cooldown of a few days. (if you are dead that much, you may need to look at your strategies and change some habits) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157395-suggestions-on-the-durability-of-inspectacles-and-rose-colored-glasses/#findComment-1728019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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