Ruperstiltskin Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, gamehun20 said: What did you scan for the umbrella? an umbrella static that also drops from the wagstaff boxes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroban Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Man this is funny, I spent the past 2 or 3 months before the announcement of these skill trees mostly "maining" Winona, because I wanted to give her a try as not only a switch character. I play in a dedicated endless server with occasional resets so, shes a really handy character in those runs. So I guess im going to stick with her a lot more lol That said Im loving this skill tree, its really solid, from what I have been testing myself: - Gives the catas a nice buff in speed, damage, special attacks, etc. - Spotlights are really good right now, it only activates at night, barely wastes any energy, gives heat, and a big area of light. - Theres a lot of "QoL" thats added, like the generators not wasting energy while on sleep mode, lasting more, etc. - Charlie's lenses are crazy, it can give you pure horror or nightmare fuel for free, and it has some interesting mechanics (you can revive by "examining" a flower and transforming it to a rose, tp to any wormhole, but theres probably more). -Haven't tested much of Wagstaff lenses (I think the minigame isnt done yet or I dont understand it), but looks really interesting. - Telepads are awesome, and the tele-umbrella even has good insulation, which is always nice lol If i have to say something "bad" about this skill tree... Charlie's aligment is useless I guess? It says that "Charlie protects you", but from what I have tested it only makes you inmune to darkness, which is lame because, well, you aint seeing ****. It probably does something more though, idk. TLDR: I love it, makes the character way more interesting, has lots of QoL, and improves all the things she already had in her kit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, Ruperstiltskin said: an umbrella static that also drops from the wagstaff boxes From this box? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruperstiltskin Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, kroban said: tp to any wormhole what do you mean by that? How do you do that? Just now, gamehun20 said: From this box? Yeah that one or the simple one i dont really know which one Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Ruperstiltskin said: what do you mean by that? How do you do that? You wear the rose goggles and examine a wormhole interact with the shadow effect and select a wormhole on map Also i have not managed to get this second box in all my testing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruperstiltskin Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 This is the thing you need to get to get the rest of the wagstaff recipes, but actually i found out you can use it too to learn any recipe if you have the item before hand: If another player already have a dark sword but the shadow manipulator is broken, you can use the item on the darks sword and you learn the recipe and can craft it anywhere Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, Ruperstiltskin said: another player already have a dark sword but the shadow manipulator is broken, you can use the item on the darks sword and you learn the recipe and can craft it anywhere You can use it to learn any prototypable recipe Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, gamehun20 said: You can use it to learn any prototypable recipe really nice can get bp like for bundling wrap when early autumn and no need to redo fight cus other want a napsack blueprint too .. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruperstiltskin Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, prettynuggets said: really nice can get bp like for bundling wrap when early autumn and no need to redo fight cus other want a napsack blueprint too .. i just tried and it actually works with bundling wrap :O that could be actually really good Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 3 hours ago, gamehun20 said: You wear the rose goggles and examine a wormhole interact with the shadow effect and select a wormhole on map Also i have not managed to get this second box in all my testing 3 hours ago, Ruperstiltskin said: This is the thing you need to get to get the rest of the wagstaff recipes, but actually i found out you can use it too to learn any recipe if you have the item before hand: If another player already have a dark sword but the shadow manipulator is broken, you can use the item on the darks sword and you learn the recipe and can craft it anywhere Winona kinda crazy good ngl Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, skile said: Winona kinda crazy good ngl T2 shadow gives immunity to charlie attacks and goggles also allows to create a short vine bridge Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, gamehun20 said: short vine bridge wuh?? like...over the water? I might have underestimated the Charlie's side of things Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, skile said: wuh?? like...over the water? I might have underestimated the Charlie's side of things Indeed but it's quite difficult to activate and it breaks quite fast Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 3 hours ago, Ruperstiltskin said: i just tried and it actually works with bundling wrap :O that could be actually really good wait, would it be possible to use it on Klaus' bundles, or do wrapped bundles not work for this? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, skile said: wait, would it be possible to use it on Klaus' bundles, or do wrapped bundles not work for this? Probably work Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 Just now, gamehun20 said: Probably work I was about to say how handy that would be, but tbh Winona already has a pretty easy time with BQ. Still, will be cool if it works. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 4 hours ago, gamehun20 said: You wear the rose goggles and examine a wormhole interact with the shadow effect and select a wormhole on map Also i have not managed to get this second box in all my testing Bot nearly as stupid as being able to closely inspect a flower to get a free revive potentially twice per day IMO. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Noel Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 2 hours ago, gamehun20 said: Indeed but it's quite difficult to activate and it breaks quite fast Seems like if you click the very edge its consistent, however the max I can go is 3 tiles, anything more doesn't work. 1 hour ago, skile said: wait, would it be possible to use it on Klaus' bundles, or do wrapped bundles not work for this? This didn't work for me sadly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 1 minute ago, Sir Noel said: Seems like if you click the very edge its consistent, however the max I can go is 3 tiles, anything more doesn't work. If i click on the edge of the water it just gives me nightmare fuel Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 1 minute ago, Sir Noel said: This didn't work for me sadly. thats probably because the wrapped gift is distinct from a gift wrap. like how cooked meat is distinct from raw meat. you can use raw meat on a drying rack, you cant use cooked meat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Noel Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 1 minute ago, gamehun20 said: If i click on the edge of the water it just gives me nightmare fuel You have to be sure there's a max of 3 tiles or less between the land, otherwise it won't work. 3 minutes ago, Copyafriend said: thats probably because the wrapped gift is distinct from a gift wrap. like how cooked meat is distinct from raw meat. you can use raw meat on a drying rack, you cant use cooked meat. Yeah this makes sense, not like it matters for her anyway xD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 4 hours ago, gamehun20 said: T2 shadow gives immunity to charlie attacks and goggles also allows to create a short vine bridge I was able to create a vine bridge with the shadow seeker 1 skill, so it might not require tier two after all! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 11 minutes ago, skile said: I was able to create a vine bridge with the shadow seeker 1 skill, so it might not require tier two after all! Nice Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Noel Posted June 7, 2024 Share Posted June 7, 2024 3 hours ago, Sir Noel said: You have to be sure there's a max of 3 tiles or less between the land, otherwise it won't work. The cap also seems to allow the bridge to spawn even if the last tile connects diagonally. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156577-winona-gaming/page/2/#findComment-1720799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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