Mr.Oshiro Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Now KLEI is working hard to improve the game content, and I hope they don't fall behind in terms of art. Adding details to various Ocean turfs, they are now too monotonous Compared to SW ocean, DST ocean not only lacks content, but also ocean art. In SW, there is a clear transition between three different depths of ocean turfs, gradually changing from clear and clear texture in shallow waters to dull and blurry texture in deep waters, making players feel like they are sailing on the sea. Ship Graveyards also focus on refining the texture, enhancing the gloomy atmosphere But DST? The three types of ocean turfs have almost no difference in color and ripple, and the "Hazardous Ocean" (corresponding to ship graveyards) only becomes darker in color, appearing to be at different time periods, with no depth reflected at all. Except for general oceans, DST special oceans areas also have no distinctive features. Compared to Coral Reef and Mangrove in SW, their exquisite and delicate turfs makes the entire biome look more colorful. Although there is no real content, it greatly deepens the player's impression of this place. Looking at Brine Shoals and Waterlogged, they don't even have their own turf. In fact, the content here is not less than Coral Reef and Mangrove, but unfortunately, the rough use of shallow ocean turf weakens their immersion. Note that my intention is not to make the DST ocean as bright as SW tropical ocean, bbut it should not be so sloppy either. Especially in a place full of life, such as Waterlogged, the underwater here should be filled with small branches, leaves, and algae. In the promotional painting, it already has a unique color. It would be great if it could be changed to this way. 、 Ocean fish still retain their colors in the water, only making them a bit hazy In the last live broadcast by KLEI, there was a circle of kelp around the otter nest in the water. Unlike before, its underwater part was not shadow but the kelp itself. I really like its appearance! It makes the hierarchy of the ocean and objects in the sea clearer. This reminds me of those ocean fish, which could have been used as embellishments in the hollow ocean, but their colors and lines were abandoned in the water, leaving only a shadow, like the scene seen wearing a mole hat, very uncomfortable. I hope the characteristics of these ocean fish can be preserved, and the same goes for squid. Such colorful fish! It's a pity to abandon them Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 making minibiomes "stained" with color would go so hard. like fig stained purple-orange water near knobbly trees, with the biome itself being a light green. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Yeah the ocean water is kinda dark. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 God its sad the amount of issues the DST ocean has compared to shipwreck's. the ocean could be so much more if klei tried hard enough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDarkSoul18x Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 True. Any improvements to the ocean is a plus for me. But please can we just get a normal raft? Like I would literally take a normal log raft from shipwrecked and a thatch sail. Is it just stubbornness or is there some sort of license issue? Why are they so adamant on making us sail on those god-awful doughnuts lol. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, xDarkSoul18x said: True. Any improvements to the ocean is a plus for me. But please can we just get a normal raft? Like I would literally take a normal log raft from shipwrecked and a thatch sail. Is it just stubbornness or is there some sort of license issue? Why are they so adamant on making us sail on those god-awful doughnuts lol. I feel the like the giant cookie boats would be somewhat passable if collision for buildings were turn off on them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDarkSoul18x Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, Wormboi said: I feel the like the giant cookie boats would be somewhat passable if collision for buildings were turn off on them. Yes! Trying to raise or lower anker is terrible. (Mainly console player). 2 minutes ago, Habakkuk said: I am on board with you, boats in DST are bad from day 1 to 10.000, most people like to build on that, but don't like to sail on that. We need better ships, they don't need to be equal do those from SW, but could be a lot better. That is why I want both! I like them for early game mobile bases, or just basing but like you said, terrible for sailing. I'm willing to meet in the middle. I just want something I can hop on quick and go. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormboi Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, xDarkSoul18x said: Yes! Trying to raise or lower anker is terrible. (Mainly console player). That is why I want both! I like them for early game mobile bases, or just basing but like you said, terrible for sailing. I'm willing to meet in the middle. I just want something I can hop on quick and go. This why need inflatable rafts Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, SSneaky said: yeah i honesty cannot see WHY we cannot have both SW and ROT boats because they wouldn't work with everything else, you wouldn't be able to ram into sea stacks, sea weeds wouldn't realistically be able to make you drown, gnarwails' attacks wouldn't work well, sharks just can't attack you on water, CK can only freeze things without a boat and avoiding freeze would be extremely easy etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, grm9 said: ram into sea stacks, who even the hell want to happily ram into those stupid ass stacks???? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, Anis5240 said: who even the hell want to happily ram into those stupid ass stacks???? the point was that you wouldn't have a reason to try to avoid them either Just now, SSneaky said: then rework stuff a little that'd require reworking it a lot and it'd be really lame because boats would just turn into walking with acceleration 1 minute ago, SSneaky said: also sharks do have a melee attack that they do exclusively in water if you mean them jumping out of water to bite, iirc that doesn't deal damage and they only use that for eating Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, grm9 said: a reason to try to avoid them either Oh man, the stacks being such a hindrance to the round plank ass "boat" to sail around is already more than enough reason. Especially when you suddenly get a sunken treasure within the area. Not everyone is going to bring along a pickaxe when sailing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, SSneaky said: https://dontstarve.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Rockjaw_Attack_Water.gif that still isn't similar in comparison to what they do on boats so they'd just turn into another simple enemy 2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: Not everyone is going to bring along a pickaxe when sailing then just do it/get bumpers or boat patches? 2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: Oh man, the stacks being such a hindrance to the round plank ass "boat" to sail around is already more than enough reason what even is a hindrance supposed to mean? should hunger also get removed because it's a hindrance? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, grm9 said: a hindrance one that intentionally does nothing other than being stupid obstacles. 2 minutes ago, grm9 said: should hunger also get removed Well, you said that. I don't. And besides, the old DS doesn't have the hunger mechanic anyway. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Anis5240 said: Well, you said that. I don't that was an example for why you should either not use something being a hindrance as an argument to remove something or define hindrance and say why it's bad or just say why it's bad without mentioning hindrance 2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: the old DS doesn't have the hunger mechanic anyway what even is this relevant for 2 minutes ago, Anis5240 said: one that intentionally does nothing other than being stupid obstacles should all games with any transport stop existing because most of the gameplay is about avoiding obstacles? Just now, SSneaky said: now is that really that bad of a thing yes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 16 minutes ago, grm9 said: why sea stacks existing Again, because it has no other purpose than being a hindrance to sailing. Sure, you can make your own Sea Weeds area too, but why bother? The ocean-related food aren't always worth the work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Anis5240 said: Again, because it has no other purpose than being a hindrance to sailing. Sure, you can make your own Sea Weeds area too, but why bother? The ocean-related food aren't always worth the work hunger is a hindrance with that logic, should it get removed too? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, grm9 said: hunger is a hindrance with that logic Yes. Why not? Same goes for you anyway. You get hungry, you get weak, and before you know it, you die. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Anis5240 said: Yes. Why not? Same goes for you anyway. You get hungry, you get weak, and before you know it, you die so what's the point of your replies? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, Habakkuk said: it would make sea stacks something useful. Yes, your ideas seem cool. But I guess it would be weird as hell to transport such a huge, tall rock onto a boat without making the boat collapse lol Right now the sea stacks are such an eyesore. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, grm9 said: so what's the point of your replies ????? You'd started this whole argument first???? I merely said at first, "who even the hell want to happily ram into those sea stacks?" Then you coming along without any real reason to argue. Is this all you do every day? Out of mere spite? No wonder people find you such a bore. Again, if you have nothing productive to give/suggest then why bother with this thread at all???? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, Anis5240 said: Then you coming along without any real reason to argue you asked why would anyone want that to stay, i've answered 1 minute ago, Anis5240 said: ????? You'd started this whole argument first???? I merely said at first, "who even the hell want to happily ram into those sea stacks?" Then you coming along without any real reason to argue. Is this all you do every day? Out of mere spite? No wonder people find you such a bore. Again, if you have nothing productive to give/suggest then why bother with this thread at all???? why do you keep saying that in every thread if you usually keep replying without a point Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 5 minutes ago, Habakkuk said: We need iron boats =D I will say, a new type of boat (not just another wooden round plank that got dubbed a "boat") will be nice to have. The bumpers barely do anything to protect the boat and it cost a ton to even make them, especially the shell bumpers. 2 minutes ago, grm9 said: why do you keep saying that in every thread Because of you, why else? I'm so bored of seeing you anywhere, without giving actual good reasonings/ideas/etc. If you wanna join in a conversation, at least act like it???? Not just rebuking every argument???? It's just a discussion, anyway????? Does everything have to be in your favor???? Like you crying over the current Crab King will be gone forever???? Boo hoo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChintzyGnat Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 Can we stay on topic this is about art not the mechanics of the game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anis5240 Posted June 3, 2024 Share Posted June 3, 2024 6 minutes ago, ChintzyGnat said: this is about art Even if it's about art, it's just about the same. At least the coral reefs in SW are pretty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156497-some-ocean-art-needs-improvement/#findComment-1719111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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