S Y Posted May 27, 2024 Share Posted May 27, 2024 Hello! I recently tried to make some power out of Natural Gas vent, but after some time it just stopped erupting at all, this goes for more than 30 cycles already. Can anybody explain what is happening and why? Did I do something to the vent so it stopped erupting? How to fix it? Purple tiles are Ceramic. Thanks in advance! My build looks like this : Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnambic Posted May 27, 2024 Share Posted May 27, 2024 You've analyzed it, so look at its info box. The way these things work is: they alternate between "erupting" and "idle" about every half cycle or so for like 75 cycles, and then they go dormant for another 40 to 60 cycles. While dormant, they don't erupt. The info box will tell you both the eruption/idle pattern as well as for how long it'll be dormant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/#findComment-1717362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Y Posted May 27, 2024 Author Share Posted May 27, 2024 It says "Active Period: 92.9 cycles every 140.4 cycles, Next activity: 0.5 cycles", okay I got it, the vent will "sleep" for 140.4 cycles. Not very reliable source of power, if you ask me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/#findComment-1717364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnambic Posted May 27, 2024 Share Posted May 27, 2024 58 minutes ago, S Y said: It says "Active Period: 92.9 cycles every 140.4 cycles, Next activity: 0.5 cycles", okay I got it, the vent will "sleep" for 140.4 cycles. Not very reliable source of power, if you ask me. Nah, the vent will provide gas for 92.9 cycles, then go dormant for 47.5 (92.9 + 47.5 is 140.4). It's up to you to make it reliable, by not using more while it's active than what it says in the "average output" section, and storing the rest to get you over dormancy. A typical natural gas vent can run a little more than one generator continuously that way. It ain't much, but it's honest (and free) power. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/#findComment-1717389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Y Posted May 27, 2024 Author Share Posted May 27, 2024 Yeah I see, 1 generator's power output is consumed to power gas and liquid pumps and the gas filter, while other generator provides 800W which is only 2 manual generators which is much, much less trouble building and eco-frienly, too. Nevertheless, the problem will solve itself - its overheating and soon will be destroyed anyway, I only hope I wont lose resources spent on building this setup. First try failed, but I was warned, so no complains. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/#findComment-1717393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakemw Posted May 28, 2024 Share Posted May 28, 2024 It's literally free power though. And you get some bonus pwater which is at the right temperature for growing Pincha Peppernuts. And the Vent produces heat but if you were to run an ST/AT the power required to remove the heat is like 20 W, so you'd spend like 2-3% of the power generated on cooling. Also the Natural Gas is needed for using the Gas Range for advanced cooking recipes. Now, here's the main trick to Natural Gas Vents: DON'T INSULATE THEM! The actual amount of heat produced is puny and easily soaked by natural terrain for hundreds or thousands of cycles or removed by an ST/AT. But if you make a perfectly insulated box, then that relatively puny amount of heat will be enough to heat up the stuff you build inside the insulated box. Furthermore, the Natural Gas Generators should be built outside the room, this is because they have the property of emitting polluted water at building temperature, or 40 C, whichever is higher. So if you heat the building up you're actually multiplying heat, it's still a relatively puny amount of heat so isn't the biggest deal, but it's a pointless antioptimization, keep the Natural Gas Generators at 40 C or below. Volcanoes and some Vents should be insulated but the Natural Gas Vent produces so little heat it's really better not to insulate it. Like you can insulate it if you make everything out of Steel, but it's practically a waste of steel to actually do that, more like something you do if you have more Steel than you know what to do with. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/#findComment-1717491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asurendra Posted May 28, 2024 Share Posted May 28, 2024 Well, two manual generators consume 120kg of oxygen every cycle. Nat.gas is much cheaper source of energy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/#findComment-1717547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_not_Included Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 11 hours ago, asurendra said: Well, two manual generators consume 120kg of oxygen every cycle. Nat.gas is much cheaper source of energy Literally made me snort. Puts so much stuff into perspective! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156376-is-it-possible-to-make-a-vent-perma-dormant/#findComment-1717669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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