Guille6785 Posted May 7, 2024 Author Share Posted May 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, benfroyobro9381 said: that's cool! do you happen to have a link or know where it is? i can't imagine between fuelweaver in a reasonable amount of time without crafting(i meant everything including non science items), which wouldn't be optimal. i can't find anything without crafting on speedrun.com. also celestial champion would be impossible unless you get both a star caller staff and deconstruction staff from ag or the ruins. and killing crab king would require a boat. i think fuelweaver is the only way. my bad, the current WR does craft a few things, but my old TAS does do it without crafting anything so at least it's possible: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfroyobro9381 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 5 minutes ago, Guille6785 said: my bad, the current WR does craft a few things, but my old TAS does do it without crafting anything so at least it's possible: damn that's impressive. i didn't even know there was a moggles setpiece. i also realized celestial champion without crafting once is impossible since astral detectors and pinch and winch can't be crafted. and the incomplete exerpiment can't be made. not to mention bug nets for moon gleams, getting a boat and paddle, etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 I find myself confused about why exactly the "All Major Bosses" category includes the specific bosses it does? I remember a decent portion of one of your previous videos focusing on the fact that an "All Bosses" speedrun would be very hard to define, seeing as the idea of what is and isn't a boss is very subjective and so anyone's specific all bosses run would be arbitrary... but this one feels just as arbitrary? Nightmare Werepig isn't here, but Klaus is? None of the possessed bosses are here, but the Twins are? Heck, the Twins are here but NOT the Eye of Terror? Scrappy Werepig isn't here either. What led you to these specific choices? I thought it was all ANR + RoT bosses, but there's no Malbatross or Antlion, so I thought it might be all summon-able bosses, but there's no Deerclops or either Werepig or the Malbatross. What specifications make a boss "major" here? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 6 minutes ago, finn from human said: I find myself confused about why exactly the "All Major Bosses" category includes the specific bosses it does? I remember a decent portion of one of your previous videos focusing on the fact that an "All Bosses" speedrun would be very hard to define, seeing as the idea of what is and isn't a boss is very subjective and so anyone's specific all bosses run would be arbitrary... but this one feels just as arbitrary? Nightmare Werepig isn't here, but Klaus is? None of the possessed bosses are here, but the Twins are? Heck, the Twins are here but NOT the Eye of Terror? Scrappy Werepig isn't here either. What led you to these specific choices? I thought it was all ANR + RoT bosses, but there's no Malbatross or Antlion, so I thought it might be all summon-able bosses, but there's no Deerclops or either Werepig or the Malbatross. What specifications make a boss "major" here? those are just major bosses from speedrun.com, which are just bosses with 10k or more total hp iirc, daywalkers technically have 9999 hp because they die after they reach 1 hp and stay at that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, grm9 said: those are just major bosses from speedrun.com, which are just bosses with 10k or more total hp iirc, daywalkers technically have 9999 hp because they die after they reach 1 hp and stay at that this is the goofiest thing i have ever heard of in my life Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 When a dark souls player at heart stumbled onto a survival game for kids Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted May 7, 2024 Author Share Posted May 7, 2024 9 minutes ago, finn from human said: I find myself confused about why exactly the "All Major Bosses" category includes the specific bosses it does? I remember a decent portion of one of your previous videos focusing on the fact that an "All Bosses" speedrun would be very hard to define, seeing as the idea of what is and isn't a boss is very subjective and so anyone's specific all bosses run would be arbitrary... but this one feels just as arbitrary? Nightmare Werepig isn't here, but Klaus is? None of the possessed bosses are here, but the Twins are? Heck, the Twins are here but NOT the Eye of Terror? Scrappy Werepig isn't here either. What led you to these specific choices? I thought it was all ANR + RoT bosses, but there's no Malbatross or Antlion, so I thought it might be all summon-able bosses, but there's no Deerclops or either Werepig or the Malbatross. What specifications make a boss "major" here? it's just the 10 main bosses from speedrun.com the criteria is "whatever the community feels should be major boss" (in my case I just define it as the 5 questline bosses and the 5 arena bosses that have more than 10k hp, with nightmare werepig not being included because it has 9999 effective hp) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Guille6785 said: nightmare werepig not being included because it has 9999 effective hp) is this not close enough Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Guille6785 said: (in my case I just define it as the 5 questline bosses and the 5 arena bosses that have more than 10k hp, with nightmare werepig not being included because it has 9999 effective hp) Imagen not being taken seriously by the best player because you lack 2 hp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted May 7, 2024 Author Share Posted May 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Primalflower said: is this not close enough AG (10000 exact HP) would also likely not be included in the main bosses list if it wasn't required for FW so no Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Guille6785 said: AG (10000 exact HP) would also likely not be included in the main bosses list if it wasn't required for FW so no Armored bearger has 8k hp normally, and a dark sword (68 dmg) filtered through the planar entity protection formula is only going to do 41.32 damage or 60.766% damage, meaning that it would take roughly 196 hits with a dark sword before dying, meaning that without any planar at all it would have an effective 13k hp Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi. Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 Nice job! I always wondered if someone could do a no hit run, nice to see someone actually complete this challenge. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, Primalflower said: Armored bearger has 8k hp normally, and a dark sword (68 dmg) filtered through the planar entity protection formula is only going to do 41.32 damage or 60.766% damage, meaning that it would take roughly 196 hits with a dark sword before dying, meaning that without any planar at all it would have an effective 13k hp you are most likely to have planar stuff by the time it spawns, it's about by how much does it's hp need to get decreased for it to die and no one'd run it anyway because waiting for day 75 isn't remotely fun Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 Just now, grm9 said: you are most likely to have planar stuff by the time it spawns and no one's going to run it anyway because waiting for day 75 isn't remotely fun if we want to go by HP in this very particular way, then one would have to count it. either that or just dont name the category something as broad as all major bosses lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Primalflower said: if we want to go by HP in this very particular way, then one would have to count it edited 3 minutes ago, grm9 said: it's about by how much does it's hp need to get decreased for it to die 2 minutes ago, Primalflower said: just dont name the category something as broad as all major bosses lol that's not a category, that isn't a speedrun Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi. Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 1 minute ago, Primalflower said: or just dont name the category something as broad as all major bosses lol It’s not that “broad” it’s kinda specific if you look at the context. I’m pretty sure Major bosses is what speedrun.com calls all bosses with over 10k hp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 5 minutes ago, Hi. said: It’s not that “broad” it’s kinda specific if you look at the context. thats sort of the problem i have with it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 Just now, Hi. said: It’s not that “broad” it’s kinda specific if you look at the context. I’m pretty sure Major bosses is what speedrun.com calls all bosses with over 10k hp. it is worth noting that guille is the main moderator of the don't starve together speedrun.com leaderboards. he is not an outside observer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 10 hours ago, Cr4zyFl4mes said: Hardest DST related challenge ever attempted? No. Hardest completed? Maybe. I've played this one and it dosen't hold a candle to what Guille achieved. I'm pissing my bed just thinking about trying his challenge out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critviscosity Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 I wouldn't call this the hardest dst challenge ever Walter is a baby mode character if you never get hit, not to mention Woby making the challenge of traversal a breeze, I did a run like this with Wes (pb 50 days) his meager sanity pool and non-existent damage makes boss "fights" actual fights, not to mention his slow working and susceptibility to the elements makes going fast without taking actual true damage difficult (but not impossible for me, obviously) get gud. p.s I don't need to cheat to get a lazy explorer, I just deal with it or reset p.p.s I don't need a bunch of client mods to make up for my skill issue Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1712997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 16 minutes ago, Critviscosity said: p.p.s I don't need a bunch of client mods to make up for my skill issue Facts. I cringed so hard when guille used status announcement to count his 40 twigs, like dude, go practice math or something. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1713000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted May 7, 2024 Author Share Posted May 7, 2024 24 minutes ago, Critviscosity said: I wouldn't call this the hardest dst challenge ever Walter is a baby mode character if you never get hit, not to mention Woby making the challenge of traversal a breeze, I did a run like this with Wes (pb 50 days) his meager sanity pool and non-existent damage makes boss "fights" actual fights, not to mention his slow working and susceptibility to the elements makes going fast without taking actual true damage difficult (but not impossible for me, obviously) get gud. p.s I don't need to cheat to get a lazy explorer, I just deal with it or reset p.p.s I don't need a bunch of client mods to make up for my skill issue brb quitting dst Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1713002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceShiki Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 27 minutes ago, Critviscosity said: I wouldn't call this the hardest dst challenge ever Walter is a baby mode character if you never get hit, not to mention Woby making the challenge of traversal a breeze, I did a run like this with Wes (pb 50 days) his meager sanity pool and non-existent damage makes boss "fights" actual fights, not to mention his slow working and susceptibility to the elements makes going fast without taking actual true damage difficult (but not impossible for me, obviously) get gud. p.s I don't need to cheat to get a lazy explorer, I just deal with it or reset p.p.s I don't need a bunch of client mods to make up for my skill issue I do think "Hardest DST Challenge ever" was hyperbole/clickbaity on purpose. You can always make things harder for yourself if you want... Like, I dunno, do this exact same challenge, but with Wendy and without Abigail. "Hardest challenge ever" is kinda like a speedrunner saying, "This is the best time ever. The category is done. Nobody will ever beat it." It's more like a statement of "OMG I did it! this was stupidly hard and I'm so proud of myself!" than a statement that should be taken literally. This was a very hard challenge and Guile has all the right to be proud of it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1713004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 1 minute ago, AliceShiki said: I do think "Hardest DST Challenge ever" was hyperbole/clickbaity on purpose hardest completed* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1713005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted May 7, 2024 Author Share Posted May 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, AliceShiki said: I do think "Hardest DST Challenge ever" was hyperbole/clickbaity on purpose. You can always make things harder for yourself if you want... Like, I dunno, do this exact same challenge, but with Wendy and without Abigail. "Hardest challenge ever" is kinda like a speedrunner saying, "This is the best time ever. The category is done. Nobody will ever beat it." It's more like a statement of "OMG I did it! this was stupidly hard and I'm so proud of myself!" than a statement that should be taken literally. cool because nobody called it the hardest challenge ever Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/155953-the-hardest-dst-challenge-ever-completed/page/2/#findComment-1713006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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