MrsBoris Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Skill trees have in average 24 to 26 skills, lets bring the maximum potential out of the character and fix some "issues". inspired by Baark0 idea stolen from blacknight7890. 0-starting square for all upgrades Spoiler COMMENCE UPGRADES -have 1 extra circuit slot maintenance make managing circuits more convenient. Spoiler Extraction expert I-III -circuits last 50% more (6 uses) -circuits last 100% more (8 uses) -You can freely choose which circuit to extract Energy efficient I-II -Energy regenerates in 60 seconds -Energy regenerates in 30 seconds Spoiler Life long warranty (must invest 3 points in extraction expert) -Circuits can be repaired with biodata for 1 use per biodata. circuits Hacking branch: you can hack pre-existing circuits at an alchemy station feeding 6 biodata to make them more compact, only 1 hacked circuit can be equipped at once, hacked circuits can't be equipped along their original counterpart to prevent malfunctions. Spoiler Hacked circuits I-IV -Chorusbox hack: hacking a chorusbox circuit will make it cost only 2 slots and will have the same effects as 2 chorusboxes. -Illumination circuit hack: hacking an illuminator circuit will make it cost only 2 slots and will have 1 extra tile of range -optoelectronic circuit hack: hacking an optoelectronic circuit will make it cost only 3 slots -thermal circuit hack: hacking a thermal circuit will make it cost only 2 slots circuit improvements- guess what lmao Spoiler Singular efficiency -circuits that solely provide extra stats give 50% more stats if worn without duplicates that fulfil the same role (ex: hunger boost, health boost, sanity boost. the zappies I-II -using 2 electric circuits will make you deal electric damage in your attacks -using 3 electric circuits will make you deal aoe electric damage if hit (**** you bee queen i hate you im gonna kill you give me 500 dollars) jimmy jimmy upgrades, very simple Spoiler Better scanning I-III -jimmy can scan 50% faster -jimmy can scan 100% faster -jimmy can scan 200% faster Improved networking -jimmy moves towards wx at twice the speed Combat drone jimmy (brought to you by genius @Q42) -Combat Drone: WX-78 can fill Jimmy with 1 stack of minerals, which he will pelt every second at mobs WX-78 attacks. (deal 15 damage per hit, 75% chance to destroy item, otherwise it drops on the ground) -Combat Drone II: WX-78 can fill Jimmy with 2 stacks of minerals, which he will pelt every second at mobs WX-78 attacks. (deal 25 damage per hit 50% chance to destroy item, otherwise it drops on the ground) -Combat Drone III: WX-78 can fill Jimmy with 3 stacks of minerals, which he will pelt every second at mobs WX-78 attacks. (deal 35 damage per hit 25% chance to destroy item, otherwise it drops on the ground) afinity which side are you on boi? Spoiler Shadow exploiter: The queen will reward your hunger for power by showing you how to exploit the enemies weaknesses with your machines A shadow circuit can be inserted in jimmy and removed from it in your inventory, once jimmy is deployed while using the circuit, instead of scanning from threats, jimmy will hover above WX, any creature that come close to an area around jimmy will be scanned revealing weaknesses, taking 20% more physical damage and 100% more planar damage from all sources.(maybe make the planar damage come only from wx) Inventor Heritage Tap into your past as a scientist to create technological marvels -Learn to craft the E.M.B (evil murdering behemoth), a Mech WX can ride, Niter or gems can be used to recharge it. (what does it do?) Share your thoughts tell me what you don't like, i tried to give wx more circuit variety, also adding extra circuit slots is extremely risky plus please klei just give me some AOE damage willow has a lot now even wigfrid can farm frog rain why can't i TELL ME KLEI I HAVE BEEN MALDING OVER THIS FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS KLEI, I REMEMBER ONE TIME WHEN I WENT TO WENDY'S AFTER GOING TO THE YEARLY WX78 CONVENTION AND THE WAITRESS ASKED ME (hi sir how are you felling today? maybe onion ri-) MY FACE BROKE DOWN IN A MILLION PIECES AND I SCREAMED "IM FELLING TERRIBLE BECAUSE WX DOES NOT HAVE AREA OF EFFECT DAMAGE DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THE FREEDOM OF DONT STARVIAN CITIZENS THAT THEY STAND AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF Klei Entertainment IN NOT GIVING WX78 WHAT HE DESERVES?" after everyone in the restaurant clapped for me and the ceo of wendys game me a free meal (a borger) i went back to my home and sat in my chair like the gigachad wx78 enjoyer i am and wrote this topic. I have an illustration of how the skill tree should look like, made with paint by my dumbass. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, MrsBoris said: Combat drone jimmy (brought to you by genius @Q42) -Combat Drone: WX-78 can fill Jimmy with 1 stack of minerals, which he will pelt every second at mobs WX-78 attacks. (deal 15 damage per hit, 75% chance to destroy item, otherwise it drops on the ground) -Combat Drone II: WX-78 can fill Jimmy with 2 stacks of minerals, which he will pelt every second at mobs WX-78 attacks. (deal 25 damage per hit 50% chance to destroy item, otherwise it drops on the ground) -Combat Drone III: WX-78 can fill Jimmy with 3 stacks of minerals, which he will pelt every second at mobs WX-78 attacks. (deal 35 damage per hit 25% chance to destroy item, otherwise it drops on the ground) I will comment on any critiques as i read. This is a cool skill but too underpowered since it drains tons of resources unless you have a walter on your team. Regarding the other jimmy skills, they are neat but should use less total points. The scanning skills should be worth 1 point. 18 minutes ago, MrsBoris said: circuits Hacking branch: you can hack pre-existing circuits at an alchemy station feeding 6 biodata to make them more compact, only 1 hacked circuit can be equipped at once, hacked circuits can't be equipped along their original counterpart to prevent malfunctions. Hide contents Hacked circuits I-IV -Chorusbox hack: hacking a chorusbox circuit will make it cost only 2 slots and will have the same effects as 2 chorusboxes. -Illumination circuit hack: hacking an illuminator circuit will make it cost only 2 slots and will have 1 extra tile of range -optoelectronic circuit hack: hacking an optoelectronic circuit will make it cost only 3 slots -thermal circuit hack: hacking a thermal circuit will make it cost only 2 slots Hacking circuits is such a cool idea. However, the nightvision and thermal circuit hacks seem rather underwhelming. Here is some ideas for improvments: Thermal circuit hack: Allows WX to cook food on himself aswell. The warmer Wx is, the faster the cooking (This also works the opposite way) Ice circuit hack (Is combined with thermal circuit): Allows Wx to create ice overtime as long as he is above 75% hunger. The colder Wx is, the more ice (Also works the opposite way) I am not sure what to do with the nightvision circuit. 18 minutes ago, MrsBoris said: afinity which side are you on boi? Hide contents Shadow exploiter: The queen will reward your hunger for power by showing you how to exploit the enemies weaknesses with your machines A shadow circuit can be inserted in jimmy and removed from it in your inventory, once jimmy is deployed while using the circuit, instead of scanning from threats, jimmy will hover above WX, any creature that come close to an area around jimmy will be scanned revealing weaknesses, taking 20% more physical damage and 100% more planar damage from all sources.(maybe make the planar damage come only from wx) Inventor Heritage Tap into your past as a scientist to create technological marvels -Learn to craft the E.M.B (evil murdering behemoth), a Mech WX can ride, Niter or gems can be used to recharge it. (what does it do?) I am not much a fan of the affinities. (Also, don't peer pressure into adding the mech, it does not fit WX and his circuit system so it would be a good idea to remove it) Maybe replace the affinities with special circuits, but overall a great improvment. I like the tree alot so far. 18 minutes ago, MrsBoris said: Extraction expert I-III -circuits last 50% more (6 uses) -circuits last 100% more (8 uses) -You can freely choose which circuit to extract Also, you can remove and replace these skills with something different, since nobody will pick them especially with the ability to repair circuits. It would be good to make Extraction Expert III be in his base kit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I think it would be cool if jimmy had a laser or maybe give him the ability to use one of wx’s circuits, the ability to lead a army of his copy’s, and maybe give jimmy a different bodies wx can build for him you know something to separate him from his clones I also think wx should be able to build different kinds of robots If this franchise went in to 2010 or beyond I would of suggested a cognitive empathy module a perfected model of that hunk of garbage that wx once thrown out, all the understanding none of the clouding feelings able to view others emotions for point of cold logical understanding perfect for your manipulation needs FIND THE WEAKNESS BEND IT WARP IT EXPLOIT IT CONQUER THE WEAKNESS anyway I don’t know how it would all fit in game but thing is it would replace some un-understanding quote with intuitive one like that stage performance I think there more but can’t think of any im thinking for alinement do something similar to willows skill tree and make jimmy a planar character with the ability to attack things and for wx give him the ability to eat shadow/lunar powered things to power a energy shield and strengthen your attacks to agents all thing but especially effective against the opposite side wether you want to make it a Circuit or inherent that’s up to you (and Obviously this would be separate from the planar bonus you already get) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 A mech for WX? No. No thank you. Just personal taste but I hate mounts. Beefalo are strong enough, making a new thing entirely seems insane specifically for a skillset. Willow already got crazy stuff and I feel it wasn't appropriate. I thought the skillsets were suppose to be minor not completely changing everything. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBoris Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Dr.Webber said: I think it would be cool if jimmy had a laser or maybe give him the ability to use one of wx’s circuits, the ability to lead a army of his copy’s, and maybe give jimmy a different bodies wx can build for him you know something to separate him from his clones I also think wx should be able to build different kinds of robots If this franchise went in to 2010 or beyond I would of suggested a cognitive empathy module a perfected model of that hunk of garbage that wx once thrown out, all the understanding none of the clouding feelings able to view others emotions for point of cold logical understanding perfect for your manipulation needs FIND THE WEAKNESS BEND IT WARP IT EXPLOIT IT CONQUER THE WEAKNESS anyway I don’t know how it would all fit in game but thing is it would replace some un-understanding quote with intuitive one like that stage performance I think there more but can’t think of any im thinking for alinement do something similar to willows skill tree and make jimmy a planar character with the ability to attack things and for wx give him the ability to eat shadow/lunar powered things to power a energy shield and strengthen your attacks to agents all thing but especially effective against the opposite side wether you want to make it a Circuit or inherent that’s up to you (and Obviously this would be separate from the planar bonus you already get) why are you copypasting the comment Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, MrsBoris said: why are you copypasting the comment Because it seems the first time I didn’t comment in time for it to be considered Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I would like a mech for WX, but implemented to tie in with WX's abilities. To get the mech if you max out the Jimmy skill branch. Jimmy can transform into a temporary mech which you can ride. The mech has a circuit box which you can insert circuits for different effects. Hunger circuit: gives it more fuel Health circuit: gives it more health Light circuit: gives off light Nightvision circuit: gives it nightvision Speed circuit: speed Etc etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBoris Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, -Nick- said: I would like a mech for WX, but implemented to tie in with WX's abilities. To get the mech if you max out the Jimmy skill branch. Jimmy can transform into a mech which you can ride. The mech has a circuit box which you can insert circuits for different effects. Hunger circuit: gives it more fuel Health circuit: gives it more health Light circuit: gives off light Nightvision circuit: gives it nightvision Speed circuit: speed Etc etc. what would the mech even do? why invest so much in a mech? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, MrsBoris said: what would the mech even do? why invest so much in a mech? Mainly combat, but it can do other things like mine trees, rocks etc. It doesn't have to be a end of the Jimmy branch like I said. My main thing i want is it to be Jimmy related. I don't want jimmy to be a attacking companion. I think it would be better if he was more of a tool for WX to use. I would like at the very least have one skill branch thats not just about circuits. A branch on electricity and overcharging would be quite cool aswell. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153488-outdated-version-my-second-version-of-a-wx78-skill-tree-after-critiques/#findComment-1690640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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