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33 minutes ago, Naifxoxo said:

any idea on whens the next skilltrees? r they soon? i hate how they left the most important charaters who desperately need skilltrees to the last

Who is that? I mean I know Webber, Wanda, and Warly need them more than some who've already got them but none of the are in desperate need of them.

1 hour ago, Naifxoxo said:

any idea on whens the next skilltrees? r they soon? i hate how they left the most important charaters who desperately need skilltrees to the last

The developers said on the stream from the last update that after Year Of The Horse they are working on the next skill trees.

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5 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

Who is that? I mean I know Webber, Wanda, and Warly need them more than some who've already got them but none of the are in desperate need of them.

u dont rlly play the game dont u , or looks like u only play 1-2 characters n dont even know what others look like but anyway 

 

webber , warly and weakerbottom are the ones who need skilltrees so bad ,

 

- they r either so bad and useless and will probably get banned ( webber ) or nobody cares abt them cz they r switch characters, ( the other 2 ) 

4 hours ago, Kacpert25 said:

The developers said on the stream from the last update that after Year Of The Horse they are working on the next skill trees.

so when we talking ? how long will it take for the next skills 

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10 minutes ago, Naifxoxo said:

u dont rlly play the game dont u , or looks like u only play 1-2 characters n dont even know what others look like but anyway 

 

webber , warly and weakerbottom are the ones who need skilltrees so bad ,

 

- they r either so bad and useless and will probably get banned ( webber ) or nobody cares abt them cz they r switch characters, ( the other 2 ) 

There's nothing wrong with Wickerbottom design wise a skill tree would be nice but she's not lacking.

Warly is in a similar state his abilities are still strong they just take long to achieve.

Webber is on the weaker side but he's not in a horrible spot either.

I feel like you're being very over dramatic here.

3 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

There's nothing wrong with Wickerbottom design wise a skill tree would be nice but she's not lacking.

Warly is in a similar state his abilities are still strong they just take long to achieve.

Webber is on the weaker side but he's not in a horrible spot either.

I feel like you're being very over dramatic here.

If maxwell in the server he completely replaces wickerbottom, so thats one of the characters being useless on that server , she literally does nothing to the team , maxwell does her job and even better since he also has his own special book , 

 

i believe everysingle character should be unique and no one should steal there job , they kinda fixed the winona switch problem with her skilltree and thats what i hope for weakerbottom 

 

both weakerbottom and warly have this issue , anyone could swap to warly make dishes and switch back, now u dont even care abt warly , even if someone joins u and picks warly u feel like its a waste of a server spot having a useless character that wont benefit u in any way , 

 

webber is just a free to play wurt but way worse and useless now ,

 

instead of buffing characters like wendy , wolfshet , whos alrdy strong and have no issues. noticable issues at least,

8 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

There's nothing wrong with Wickerbottom design wise a skill tree would be nice but she's not lacking.

Warly is in a similar state his abilities are still strong they just take long to achieve.

Webber is on the weaker side but he's not in a horrible spot either.

I feel like you're being very over dramatic here.

what is the main gimmick and upsides of playing weakerbottom , just having 50 more sanity than maxwell? this dosnt matter since maxwell regens sanity faster than her , so theres literally nothing makes u ok i wanna stick with weakerbottom, she literally dosnt have any passive effects that makes u want to stay as weakerbottom, a character that cant eat anything when it goes stale a big downside makes u think that it should have alot more

2 hours ago, Naifxoxo said:

so next 1 isnt webber. kinda disappointed, i see that they arent even excited about webber or care at all

Well, it could be that or it could be that they have a goal of addressing the "spider army lagging servers" thing and that it's not a trivial thing to fix so they're slowly hammering down their solution while pushing other things out first.

I mean that's just a blind guess and possibly cope but

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13 hours ago, Naifxoxo said:

u dont rlly play the game dont u , or looks like u only play 1-2 characters n dont even know what others look like but anyway 

 

webber , warly and weakerbottom are the ones who need skilltrees so bad ,

 

- they r either so bad and useless and will probably get banned ( webber ) or nobody cares abt them cz they r switch characters, ( the other 2 ) 

so when we talking ? how long will it take for the next skills 

Warly needs skill tree more than ANYONE his playstyle is beyond effing boring, like I mean he just isn’t any fun at all…

For Context: Fishing & Farming have a more complex gameplay styles then Warly’s Cooking, even the WintersFeast event has more fun cooking gameplay then Warly. He doesn’t just need a Skill Tree, He needs a Wolfgang or Willow Level Rework.

Webber & Wickerbottom have gotten several tweaks & changes that make them more interesting, they are not in dire need of a skill tree. 

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2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Warly needs skill tree more than ANYONE his playstyle is beyond effing boring, like I mean he just isn’t any fun at all…

For Context: Fishing & Farming have a more complex gameplay styles then Warly’s Cooking, even the WintersFeast event has more fun cooking gameplay then Warly. He doesn’t just need a Skill Tree, He needs a Wolfgang or Willow Level Rework.

Webber & Wickerbottom have gotten several tweaks & changes that make them more interesting, they are not in dire need of a skill tree. 

webber still useless and causes lag , if u join a server as webber u probably gonna get banned unless the host is a noob ,  not only lag , hes js a free to play wurt if u got wurt theres literally no reason to play webber , thats why he needs a skilltree

 

in my opinion these 3 shouldhv gotten skilltrees long ago , warly webber wicker 

 

they have obvious weaknesses and stuff that makes them useless , they need a rework to remove them from being replaced by other characters, Webber<Wurt , Weakerbottom<Maxwell 

 

its the same thing with weakerbottom shes too boring and theres literally no reason to play weakerbottom and not switch to maxwell while still being able to abuse all of her books , weakerbottom shes just there

2 hours ago, Semind said:

Well, it could be that or it could be that they have a goal of addressing the "spider army lagging servers" thing and that it's not a trivial thing to fix so they're slowly hammering down their solution while pushing other things out first.

I mean that's just a blind guess and possibly cope but

why pushing other things instead of working on webber to fix the lag at same time ?? webber literally a ban material everyone js bans everysingle webber joins their server, 

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Warly needs skill tree more than ANYONE his playstyle is beyond effing boring, like I mean he just isn’t any fun at all…

For Context: Fishing & Farming have a more complex gameplay styles then Warly’s Cooking, even the WintersFeast event has more fun cooking gameplay then Warly. He doesn’t just need a Skill Tree, He needs a Wolfgang or Willow Level Rework.

Webber & Wickerbottom have gotten several tweaks & changes that make them more interesting, they are not in dire need of a skill tree. 

i literally cant play the game as webber or with webbers when the server has 3+ players it becomes unplayable, even for me as the host. its insane i used to be a webber main and switched js bcz i cant even play the game i literally cant

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People instantly banning Webber isn't fixable with a skill tree. A skill tree can fix a lack of planar damage for spiders, but there's nothing stopping you from playing him as Wilson with some extra perks. Playing Wurt means being a vegetarian, but Webber has no substantial restrictions.

Wickerbottom is fixable short term by just making Maxwell worse at using her books. She isn't hurting too badly for a lack of planar tentacles or lightning. Obtaining the shadow reaper already makes her resource books that much better.

Warly needs one urgently because basically nobody plays him. He's a swap character like Winona used to be. Skill tree worked great for Winona.

Wanda absolutely needs one. She puts herself near death to get the most out of a whip that doesn't even have planar damage. She suffers immensely against Scion. Something needs to be done about how temperature damage, etc., affects her healing.

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4 hours ago, Naifxoxo said:

why pushing other things instead of working on webber to fix the lag at same time ?? webber literally a ban material everyone js bans everysingle webber joins their server, 

Not instead of, I meant in parallel with as you're saying. But if Webber's own skill tree is intrinsically tied to the work being done to adjust spiders, and one can't happen without the other, then it becomes a situation where if they put it as the priority update, that ties up a lot of different roles and responsibilities since if the Webber skill tree needs to release in tandem with the spider fix which itself is a lengthy process, that starts delaying how soon they can put out the next update which they probably prefer not to just commit to having a (more) lengthy span of time without a game update. So they put like, 10% dev resources on chipping away at the spider fix while simultaneously pushing on other content that's not tied up in dependencies.

AGAIN, completely hypothetical explanation that's not based on actual knowledge of Klei's internal priorities or development plans, which by extension might just be cope

Edit: One last thing I want to add, at the core of my position is this: I'm pretty likely to be off the mark here, but the bottom line is I just want to push back against "they don't care at all", which I'm very confident in saying is the least likely explanation. This is "lazy devs"-adjacent rhetoric which is more or less never the right answer.

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On 1/30/2026 at 11:30 PM, Naifxoxo said:

If maxwell in the server he completely replaces wickerbottom, so thats one of the characters being useless on that server , she literally does nothing to the team , maxwell does her job and even better since he also has his own special book , 

I agree here but really a skill tree isn't even needed for this all they have to do is prevent him from using her books or weaken his effects.

 

On 1/30/2026 at 11:30 PM, Naifxoxo said:

both weakerbottom and warly have this issue , anyone could swap to warly make dishes and switch back, now u dont even care abt warly , even if someone joins u and picks warly u feel like its a waste of a server spot having a useless character that wont benefit u in any way , 

Honestly I don't think the Warly swap is worth it these days don't get me wrong his dishes are still good but most survivors are far more versatile with their skill set to the point they don't really need his dishes if you aren't min maxing. So in a sense he stays as a good if he's around but not necessarily overly missed if he isn't type character.

On 1/30/2026 at 11:30 PM, Naifxoxo said:

webber is just a free to play wurt but way worse and useless now ,

 

instead of buffing characters like wendy , wolfshet , whos alrdy strong and have no issues. noticable issues at least,

Wolfgang needed his buff because his main gimmick didn't really work with the planar system techinically Wanda is also very much in need of a skill tree for the same reason.

As for Webber he does hold a advantage over Wurt and that's having a simplified gameplay loop. Wurt can build up to being a master of all trades but webber starts out at his peak out the gate.

Wurt has a restrictive diet and a lot of work to do to reach her peak.

Webber on the other hand has a expanded variety of safe foods, much easier to amass minions, and various minor peaks that save on resources.

They currently fill the niche of a early game minon master and a late game one.

5 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

I agree here but really a skill tree isn't even needed for this all they have to do is prevent him from using her books or weaken his effects.

 

Honestly I don't think the Warly swap is worth it these days don't get me wrong his dishes are still good but most survivors are far more versatile with their skill set to the point they don't really need his dishes if you aren't min maxing. So in a sense he stays as a good if he's around but not necessarily overly missed if he isn't type character.

Wolfgang needed his buff because his main gimmick didn't really work with the planar system techinically Wanda is also very much in need of a skill tree for the same reason.

As for Webber he does hold a advantage over Wurt and that's having a simplified gameplay loop. Wurt can build up to being a master of all trades but webber starts out at his peak out the gate.

Wurt has a restrictive diet and a lot of work to do to reach her peak.

Webber on the other hand has a expanded variety of safe foods, much easier to amass minions, and various minor peaks that save on resources.

They currently fill the niche of a early game minon master and a late game one.

they wont change maxwell thats why im asking for a weakerbottom skilltree to change something just like what they did with winona , maybe making her bookshelf if not being used by weakerbottom for sometime enter a supercharge mode charges at 2x speed and locks, preventing anyone from accessing or interacting with it , only weakerbottom is able to unlock it and turn off the mode.

 

for warly , why not ,  a free 2.5-3x dmg is still a free 2.5-3 no matter what ,

 

also for webber , not rlly , wurt still has the free merms at swamp she can gather and army easily early game if she wants , but ppl prefer waiting , so wurt still better early or late game , being useful only early game is weak it means that u gonna have to swap mid to late game to keep up with game difficulty, plus still spiders cause too much lag making the game unplayable, theres so much to do to make webber an actual good character 

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