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Confusing about soul dropped by Abby when Wortox around


Steorra
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On 2/6/2025 at 6:43 AM, Jason said:

Ghosts drop souls in DS. So Abigail should also.

Wortox says "Poor soul" in regards to Abigail. 

The old post was closed but I have recheck details mentioned here and being confused, so I start a new post here. Sorry for bothering...

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Ghosts drop souls in DS.

I don't recall the same thing ngl. (have been played DS before but it's a bit long ago.) I was just checked the wiki of DS (the drop list part) and it said Ghost drop nothing in DS just as same as in DST.

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additional info for Abby's loot in DS (Still not soul):

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Wortox says "Poor soul" in regards to Abigail. 

Yes I could verify this quote of Wortox's interaction toward Abby.

However at the same time, Wortox has a quote toward Abby's flower as "I think it eats souls, too.". Combine with other lore lines of Abby's flower, I guess Wortox is hint that the Abby's flower is the true position of where Abby's soul at? The "summon" of Abby is seems just a temporary soul-releasing of Abby and Abby's soul would back to her flower once she was unsummoned or died.

I guess Wortox should not have ability to grab the soul of Abby from Abby's flower even when Abby died around Wortox? Or once Abby died her soul was grabbed by Wortox but not back to her flower, she should not be able to resummon from the flower.


Steps to Reproduce

1. Abby died around Wortox.

2. Wortox get a soul.

3. Abby's soul still back to her flower which makes the flower could resummon Abby immediately after Wortox got a soul from Abby's death.




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I feel like your argument would be stronger if you just used Wortox's line of "This soul's already been sucked! Hyuyu!" When failing to revive Abby.

I think it's fine to keep the Abby dropping a soul thing.

Survivors drop souls, which can then be eaten.. then you can examine their ghosts where Wortox will joke about eating, despite the fact that he just did.

So Abby having the same thing going on, and thus being like the other survivors, is actually kinda nice. Makes her more 'human' ig

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9 hours ago, Debruh said:

I feel like your argument would be stronger if you just used Wortox's line of "This soul's already been sucked! Hyuyu!" When failing to revive Abby.

I think it's fine to keep the Abby dropping a soul thing.

Survivors drop souls, which can then be eaten.. then you can examine their ghosts where Wortox will joke about eating, despite the fact that he just did.

So Abby having the same thing going on, and thus being like the other survivors, is actually kinda nice. Makes her more 'human' ig

Yes, the point is Abby's soul is not on her ghostly body but absorbed by the flower.

I started to think the survivor's souls argument you mentioned here. I could understand if the soul drops for Wortox is not a "true soul", but this would being more confusing once I consider Wortox's quotes and lore. Whether this would be change or not, I wanted an potential explanation to my questions...

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On 2/9/2025 at 2:22 PM, Steorra said:

could understand if the soul drops for Wortox is not a "true soul", but this would being more confusing once I consider Wortox's quotes and lore. Whether this would be change or not, I wanted an potential explanation to my questions...

It's probably not. Bosses drop like 8. Which doesn't make sense.  Whatever it is, it does still require a creature to die. Which is what Wortox's quotes generally refer to

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