greggbert Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 A machine that you can build on the surface of the asteroid that receives hydrogen gas of any temperature and outputs liquid hydrogen. Maybe a replacement for the water sieve feature/exploit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94708-infrared-emitter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergologist Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 How Does that work? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94708-infrared-emitter/#findComment-1076045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggbert Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 You give it some amount of gaseous hydrogen and power and maybe some other ingredient. The emitter draws the heat out and "beams" infrared radiation into space. After a some amount of time the transformation completes and cold liquid hydrogen comes out that you can store or use for general cooling. You can dump the liquid hydrogen into a room with a few thermo regulators or aqua-tuners and let it absorb more heat. it would make for an interesting way to kill heat that fits in with the general plausibility of the game better than magical water purifiers that eat heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94708-infrared-emitter/#findComment-1076049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergologist Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Ah, maybe if it is used inside the asteroid, it might produce a ton of heat? and how cold is the hydrogen? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94708-infrared-emitter/#findComment-1076050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggbert Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 It can only be built on the surface. It beams infrared radiation into space "destroying" the heat. The hydrogen going in is as hot as you want, but it comes out liquid at -255C after it's been cooled by the emitter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94708-infrared-emitter/#findComment-1076051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enno Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 10 hours ago, greggbert said: It can only be built on the surface. It beams infrared radiation into space "destroying" the heat. The hydrogen going in is as hot as you want, but it comes out liquid at -255C after it's been cooled by the emitter. I do like this but it would be important to have some downfalls with it. After looking at this thread, I think it would be important to only function function at night since sunlight heats things up technically (cover with bunker doors). It should also take pretty long or consume a lot of power Spoiler https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/why-does-space-cool-a-warm-thing-down-so-much.1521546/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94708-infrared-emitter/#findComment-1076156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggbert Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Sure. The power cost to run it and the "charge up" and "cool down" times and the amount of surface area needed, and even the requirement that a dupe be manually operating it wearing an environmental suit could all be tweaked to provide a balance. Also remember you would need a lot of abysylite or insulated pipe to make it worthwhile. But if you also took away the water sieve exploit I think it could be made to work without negatively affecting the game balance. The main reason I would like it is because I think that it would be more fun for players to create a closed-loop hydrogen system than the current polluted water thing, and it gives another incentive to tunnel to the surface quickly. The idea of "storing up cold" also appeals to my natural hoarding/stockpiling instincts. Finally, I think it's just cool to have a machine that does a state change and give regular players a chance to work with extreme temperatures, which currently mostly only the hard core players seem to do based on the forum posts I've seen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94708-infrared-emitter/#findComment-1076178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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