Vertel Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Polluted dirt is currently a problem on beta. Pokeshell eat a lot of it, orehull ranching needs a lot of it, and the only good source of polluted dirt that currently exists in the game is ethanol distillers, which is at best boring and at worst unreasonable. All in all it makes pokeshell and orehull ranching a chore. With the heavy (well deserved) nerf pacu got as food and lime sources there's room to open up a new niche for them to live in: polluted dirt creation. Specifically, I would suggest, rather than buffing how much they eat and poop, give at least one more pacu morph a similar behaviour to gulp fish, where they drink polluted water, but emit polluted dirt instead of clean water. This works as an extension to the existing flavour of pacu, it lets us directly convert a resource we can get a lot of into something that now has a lot of use but limited sources, and in doing so it makes pacu synergise with pokeshell ranching and orehull ranching, making pacu ranching still valuable and useful even though other food and/or lime sources are now more attractive options. Overall I like what's happening with the ranching changes, but I do not like where pacu currently sit on beta, especially if you don't have APP active on a save. I would like there to be good reasons to keep raising my fishy friends, and to me this seems like a good way to keep them relevant without reverting the nerf, and to integrate into the whole ecosystem better. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171915-pacu-our-future-polluted-dirt-overlords/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugyBear Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I love the idea in concept, but if they drink PWater and don't have a liquid output, they'll eventually drink away their environment and die out. What if it was an amphibious creature like a Pokeshell morph instead? Similar to how we ranch multiple kinds of Pufts in order to keep their population stable, a Pokeshell morph that consumes PWater and outputs PDirt (or PMud) could be mixed with other Pokeshell varieties to keep the populations stable. This would also give purpose to Carbon Dioxide generators, since the easiest way to quickly make PWater is to run Water through a few CO2 Skimmers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171915-pacu-our-future-polluted-dirt-overlords/#findComment-1869836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenedas Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 22 hours ago, JarrettM said: Changes and Improvements The Aquatic Planet Pack Critter Changes Orehulls Orehulls will now cull excess Kelpoles when overcrowded. Orehull's scale growth status is now called Ore Growth. Minor update to animations for the Orehull's interaction with the Aquatic Critter Condo. Orehulls now excrete Polluted Dirt instead of Polluted Mud. Actually, polluted dirt is now produced by orehulls as per last patch note Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171915-pacu-our-future-polluted-dirt-overlords/#findComment-1869847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertel Posted 30 minutes ago Author Share Posted 30 minutes ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Tenedas said: Actually, polluted dirt is now produced by orehulls as per last patch note Orehulls produce pdirt, but only a fraction of what's needed to feed the kelpoles that feed those orehulls; it's not a sustainable loop. Some additional source of pdirt needs to be involved. 2 hours ago, AugyBear said: I love the idea in concept, but if they drink PWater and don't have a liquid output, they'll eventually drink away their environment and die out. Only if the morph that drinks it lives in pwater; most tropical pacu don't spawn in a pwater environment, so giving the drinking behaviour to them would largely avoid any issues. Alternately, they could emit a portion of what they drink as pdirt, a portion as plain water, and a portion outright deleted as payment for the process. 2 hours ago, AugyBear said: What if it was an amphibious creature like a Pokeshell morph instead? Similar to how we ranch multiple kinds of Pufts in order to keep their population stable, a Pokeshell morph that consumes PWater and outputs PDirt (or PMud) could be mixed with other Pokeshell varieties to keep the populations stable. This would also give purpose to Carbon Dioxide generators, since the easiest way to quickly make PWater is to run Water through a few CO2 Skimmers This doesn't address the problem of pacu being unattractive to ranch with the current shape of things on beta, and makes pokeshell even more powerful than they (currently) are. If it was purely a mechanical problem of making pdirt this would work pretty well. Edited 17 minutes ago by Vertel Typo 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171915-pacu-our-future-polluted-dirt-overlords/#findComment-1869850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenedas Posted 26 minutes ago Share Posted 26 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Vertel said: Orehulls produce pdirt, but only a fraction of what's needed to feed the kelpoles that feed those orehulls; it's not a sustainable loop. Some additional source of pdirt needs to be involved. wow sorry double checked now, they changed the amount too so now is not 1:1 with kelpole, didn't realize the nerf is real and probably really heavy too need to dismantle my ranch ASAP Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171915-pacu-our-future-polluted-dirt-overlords/#findComment-1869851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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