Ugur01 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) Hello everyone! I’ve conducted several experiments on the skills that buff Alpha circuits, and I’m going to share the results with you in this post. All tests were conducted by measuring the hunger drain over a full 1-day (8-minute) period. The hunger drain rates now scale dynamically based on your Alpha Circuits Tinkering skills. Previously, the Super-Gastrogain circuit only provided a flat 20% reduction—and it still functions that way if no skills are unlocked. However, the values now shift as follows: NOTE: These stats are from an older version. I've posted the updated calculations based on the new multipliers in my latest reply below. Skills Disabled: Gastrogain Circuit: 0% hunger reduction Super-Gastrogain Circuit: 20% hunger reduction Alpha Circuits Tinkering I Unlocked: Gastrogain Circuit: 5% hunger reduction Super-Gastrogain Circuit: 30% hunger reduction Alpha Circuits Tinkering II Unlocked: Gastrogain Circuit: 10% hunger reduction Super-Gastrogain Circuit: 50% hunger reduction How the Math Works To understand how these reductions affect your gameplay, let’s take a character that loses 75 hunger per day as a baseline. To calculate the final drain, we subtract the reduction percentage from 1 to find the multiplier. For one Super-Gastrogain Circuit (20% reduction): 1 - 0.20 = 0.80 (multiplier) We then multiply the daily hunger rate by this value: 75 x 0.80 = 60 If you equip multiple circuits, the effect is multiplicative. For example, if you have two Super-Gastrogain Circuits with 20% reduction each, you multiply the base rate by 0.80 twice: 75 x 0.80 x 0.80 = 48 Following this calculation method, here are the detailed results of my analysis: One Super-Gastrogain Circuit Skills Disabled: 60.0 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering I: 52.5 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering II: 37.5 hunger/day Two Super-Gastrogain Circuits Skills Disabled: 48.0 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering I: 36.75 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering II: 18.75 hunger/day Three Super-Gastrogain Circuits Skills Disabled: 38.4 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering I: 25.725 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering II: 9.375 hunger/day For those interested in the technical side, here is how these values are defined within the game files. Spoiler -- wx78_circuitry_alphabuffs_1 MAXHUNGER_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF = 0.70, MAXHUNGER1_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF = 0.95, -- wx78_circuitry_alphabuffs_2 MAXHUNGER_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF_2 = 0.50, MAXHUNGER1_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF_2 = 0.90, Edited April 12 by Ugur01 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170213-hunger-drain-dynamics-with-alpha-buffs-updated/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 i did it all with max and i think the player ends up getting 3.75 hunger a day with full gastro 3 big 1 mini while wearing belt and mushat 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170213-hunger-drain-dynamics-with-alpha-buffs-updated/#findComment-1855421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swish3rTwist3r Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 This seems contrary to the perk description that says "Even more Alpha Circuits will grant new effects...", as opposed to the same Alpha circuits will grant even more powerful effects. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170213-hunger-drain-dynamics-with-alpha-buffs-updated/#findComment-1855424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho142 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Swish3rTwist3r said: This seems contrary to the perk description that says "Even more Alpha Circuits will grant new effects...", as opposed to the same Alpha circuits will grant even more powerful effects. It’s a little misleading since there is at least one circuit that gains new effects at the second level. I think all of the circuit skills are a bit poorly worded though, they should really at least mention or clarify which circuits are affected, whether that be in the skill tree itself or the scrapbook 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170213-hunger-drain-dynamics-with-alpha-buffs-updated/#findComment-1855448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Swish3rTwist3r said: This seems contrary to the perk description that says "Even more Alpha Circuits will grant new effects...", as opposed to the same Alpha circuits will grant even more powerful effects. there are more unfished circuits in the code, not yet fully implemented in game, chances are those are alpha ones that get more effects in tier 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170213-hunger-drain-dynamics-with-alpha-buffs-updated/#findComment-1855451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 hours ago, Parusoid said: there are more unfished circuits in the code, not yet fully implemented in game, chances are those are alpha ones that get more effects in tier 2 It’s gamma circuits Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170213-hunger-drain-dynamics-with-alpha-buffs-updated/#findComment-1855493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugur01 Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 Hello everyone. Following the latest patch, WX-78’s hunger reduction values have been updated as follows: Base Values (Skills Disabled): Gastrogain Circuit: 0% hunger reduction Super-Gastrogain Circuit: 20% hunger reduction Alpha Circuits Tinkering I Unlocked: Gastrogain Circuit: 5% hunger reduction Super-Gastrogain Circuit: 25% hunger reduction Alpha Circuits Tinkering II Unlocked: Gastrogain Circuit: 10% hunger reduction Super-Gastrogain Circuit: 30% hunger reduction Here are the detailed results of my analysis: One Super-Gastrogain Circuit Skills Disabled: 60.0 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering I: 56.25 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering II: 52.5 hunger/day Two Super-Gastrogain Circuits Skills Disabled: 48.0 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering I: 42.19 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering II: 36.75 hunger/day Three Super-Gastrogain Circuits Skills Disabled: 38.4 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering I: 31.64 hunger/day Alpha Tinkering II: 25.73 hunger/day For those interested in the technical side, here is how these values are defined within the game files. Spoiler -- wx78_circuitry_alphabuffs_1 MAXHUNGER_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF = 0.75, MAXHUNGER1_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF = 0.95, -- wx78_circuitry_alphabuffs_2 MAXHUNGER_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF_2 = 0.70, MAXHUNGER1_SLOWPERCENT_ALPHABUFF_2 = 0.90, 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/170213-hunger-drain-dynamics-with-alpha-buffs-updated/#findComment-1860826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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