Cruvimaster Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 On 5/23/2025 at 3:35 AM, Sacco said: It’s the best weapon in the game… So good I don't see anyone using it. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1817789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted May 25, 2025 Share Posted May 25, 2025 2 hours ago, Cruvimaster said: So good I don't see anyone using it. It is obtained after killing all the bosses. In addition, it takes a lot of time to level it up. Most of the DST players are most likely boss rushers. And the other ones who drop the game after the bosses don't use it either. Megabasers are generally strange people and for some reason ignore this subject. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1817816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted May 26, 2025 Share Posted May 26, 2025 18 hours ago, Cruvimaster said: So good I don't see anyone using it. it’s just the best weapon in the game, yea you get it pretty late, but for redoing fights it’s so good. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1817979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, Sacco said: it’s just the best weapon in the game, yea you get it pretty late, but for redoing fights it’s so good. But why would you want to at that point? You have to redo fights with the worse form just to upgrade it. The time investment makes no sense by the time you get it. Looks like there are only going to be a few more rifts bosses added, and we might just get a better weapon along with them. On pubs, you'll be worried that the world will be reset before you even get any value out of killing old bosses. That's why it's a bad weapon when reaper and jellybeans exist, and you aren't going to see people using it. Edited May 27, 2025 by Bumber64 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 4 hours ago, Bumber64 said: But why would you want to at that point? You have to redo fights with the worse form just to upgrade it. The time investment makes no sense by the time you get it. Looks like there are only going to be a few more rifts bosses added, and we might just get a better weapon along with them. On pubs, you'll be worried that the world will be reset before you even get any value out of killing old bosses. That's why it's a bad weapon when reaper and jellybeans exist, and you aren't going to see people using it. some people often want to redo fights, and due to the addition of a ton of new bosses it’s going to be even more useful late game. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst_lover Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 On 5/25/2025 at 10:03 PM, Hungry French said: It is obtained after killing all the bosses. In addition, it takes a lot of time to level it up. Most of the DST players are most likely boss rushers. And the other ones who drop the game after the bosses don't use it either. Megabasers are generally strange people and for some reason ignore this subject. I am someone who stay on his worlds for another like 500 days after killing every boss but the weapon is still trash 6 minutes ago, Sacco said: some people often want to redo fights, and due to the addition of a ton of new bosses it’s going to be even more useful late game. The weapon is indeed the strongest in terms of raw power but it’s not worth it at all man it’s so mush effort for a little different 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 8 hours ago, dst_lover said: Это оружие действительно самое мощное с точки зрения грубой силы, но оно того не стоит, чувак. Это просто лишняя трата сил ради чего-то незначительного A lot of things in the game are not worth the effort, especially raid bosses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 On 5/25/2025 at 4:03 PM, Hungry French said: It is obtained after killing all the bosses. In addition, it takes a lot of time to level it up. Most of the DST players are most likely boss rushers. And the other ones who drop the game after the bosses don't use it either. Megabasers are generally strange people and for some reason ignore this subject. Everyone will go after a really good item regardless of the difficulty. For example: Polar Bearger Bin, Nightmare Saddle. And another even more impactful example would be the upgrade of the Enlightened Crown. The curious thing is that the big nerf of this weapon was almost "silently", because it waited for the beta version to end. Saying that it is the best weapon in the game seems incredibly naive to me, especially when the main argument is to use it to REPEAT bosses that you defeated with other weapons. I even think that Klei regretted having created the item, but it would be ugly to remove it from the game. So they simply nerfed it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 33 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said: Каждый будет стремиться к действительно хорошему предмету, независимо от сложности. Например: «Ящик полярного медведя», «Седло кошмаров». И ещё один, даже более впечатляющий пример — обновление «Просвещённой короны». Любопытно, что большой нерф этого оружия прошёл почти «бесшумно», потому что он ждал окончания бета-версии. Утверждение, что это лучшее оружие в игре, кажется мне невероятно наивным, особенно когда основной аргумент заключается в том, что его можно использовать для ПОВТОРНОГО поражения боссов, которых вы победили с помощью другого оружия. Я даже думаю, что Клей пожалел о том, что создал этот предмет, но было бы некрасиво удалять его из игры. Поэтому они просто ослабили его. I'm not talking about difficulty, but about the cost of resources. DST bosses are very easy, but fat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wawchik Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 2 hours ago, Hungry French said: A lot of things in the game are not worth the effort, especially raid bosses. Yes, what's actually worth the effort are 1k hp bosses from ds which you can kill with a spear and a log suit. Crazy how you can't go one post without mentioning how bad raid bosses are Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Wawchik said: Да, на самом деле стоит усилий, чтобы убить боссов с 1000 единиц здоровья в Ds, которых можно убить копьём и в костюме из брёвен. Удивительно, как вы можете писать пост за постом, не упоминая о том, насколько плохи рейдовые боссы Wow. 1k hp. A boss who has hundreds of tentacle minions around him ( And 4 respawn for them ). Everyone says raid bosses are good, but I say they're bad. You make it sound like you can't kill DST bosses with spear + armor wood. 20 minutes ago, Wawchik said: Да, на самом деле стоит усилий, чтобы убить боссов с 1000 единиц здоровья в Ds, которых можно убить копьём и в костюме из брёвен. Удивительно, как вы можете писать пост за постом, не упоминая о том, насколько плохи рейдовые боссы And yes it's worth it. DS bosses have good loot for a democratic loss of resources. And yes, at the moment, the easiest DS boss is not Quacken with 1000 hp, but Ancient Guardian, because his rework made it incredibly nerfed due to the boring 6-second stuns from DST. Edited May 27, 2025 by Hungry French Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/165757-why-do-we-rarely-get-balance-updates/page/4/#findComment-1818232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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